Question on how you operate your Carry gun - Page 3

Phil Lozano · 04-01-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ezearln

Wingwiper I A properly designed safety, or groupings of safety features/designs are NOT designed to fail.

I think you read by this too fast. You have different points. One says designed and one says destined.

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Originally Posted by Wingwiper

A SAFETY is a mechanical device, destined to FAIL.

I carry a Sig 232, ready to rock.

A very nice little handgun for carrying.

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alowe56 · 04-02-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

With the pre 80 series, 1911A1 or Combat Commander, with the hammer down against the firing pin retainer, a blow to the hammer will not bounce the firing pin because the hammer is against the retainer and will not move. Dropping the pistol on its muzzle could cause the firing pin to bounce forward.

Old myth, debunked in one of the yearly issues on the 1911. I haven't been able to find my copy, but I do recall the test involved a muzzle weighted test weapon that was dropped from a height exceeding 9 feet. This was a Model 70 series I believe, that did not have a firing pin block. It was loaded with a blank, and dropped numerous times, always landing muzzle down. The only time it went bang was when they pulled the trigger to test it, to make sure it was functioning properly.

Rambo · 04-10-2008, 12:29 PM

I carry a Sig 226, fully loaded, chamber and all. The only safety is don't pull the trigger. If I pull it, it's ready for business.

boesman82 · 04-20-2008, 07:50 AM

I carry mine with round in the chamber, and it stays that way when home or out.

tekhead1219 · 05-07-2008, 02:59 PM

Witness P Compact .45, cocked and locked. Doesn't matter if carry or in my nightstand.

andrew cochran · 05-07-2008, 04:49 PM

How long do you keep it cocked and locked at a time? Like a week or what ever.

tekhead1219 · 05-08-2008, 01:39 PM

Until I get ready to shoot it or clean it. When it's loaded, it's kept cocked and locked.

Punisher · 05-09-2008, 03:05 PM

Im taking my CC Training June 8. So you guys gave me alot to think about. I keep my gun in the house next to me NOT chambered and with the safety on. I have 5 dogs so if they bark I have time to react. Now when I start to carry I was going to carry with a round chambered and safety on.

modificationvt · 05-10-2008, 06:59 PM

I carry a XD40SC with a round in the chamber always.
Before I had my XD I carried a FEG .380, and I carried that one in the chamber, hamer down (double action first pull)

Mike Franklin · 05-10-2008, 08:11 PM

Let me stun a bunch of ya'll, John Browning was a gun designer NOT a gunfighter. He originally designed the 1911 to be carried cocked with only a grip safety. The US Army insisted on a manual safety. I carried a 1911 for years, may get one again. If you grip the 1911 properly your thumb should fall onto the thumb safety.
If an Officer gets into a questionable shooting, say a shooting during a struggle, and a civil jury learns that you were carrying a gun with a safety and did not have that safety 'on', you and the Dept will be hung out to dry.

knightRider · 05-11-2008, 12:36 PM

well lets see , i have a S&w 686 loaded by the bed , same in my truck , i carry different things when you have as many great carry guns as i do <you have to mix it up a little> i know someone will say train with only one , but i say train with your fav top 10 pistols and rifles so you never have to pick up a weapon (yours are the enemies) and stumble. i am familiar with glocks , berretta's , xds, 1911 , H&K's, S&W's , sig's , kel tec and many more, i own at lest one of all the major brands!

this is fun

HEHEHEHE

Beer Forever · 05-11-2008, 01:14 PM

I carry a Glock 19 with one in the chamber in a Blackhawk IWB holster. I occasionally remove the round, but with semi auto it is not good to continuously chamber and remove the same round over and over.

There is no point in carrying if you don't have one in the chamber. If you are too scared to be carrying a loaded weapon with one in the chamber then you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all.

knightRider · 05-11-2008, 02:54 PM

i love guns

sorry but i do i really do

GlockMeister · 05-11-2008, 05:45 PM

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just_a_car · 05-11-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beer Forever

There is no point in carrying if you don't have one in the chamber. If you are too scared to be carrying a loaded weapon with one in the chamber then you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It took me quite some time (months) to get comfortable with carrying with a round in the chamber. I did so by carrying without a round in the chamber and the trigger on my GLOCK 27 cocked and every time it came out of the holster, the trigger was still in the same place. That got me comfortable that it wouldn't be an issue with how I was carrying.

At the same time, losing a second or two due to needing to chamber a round in a situation where you need a gun can be deadly, but at the same time, not having a gun at all can mean certain death where you at least have a chance if you just need to chamber a round.

TXplt · 05-12-2008, 04:38 AM

^^Carrying a firearm without a round chambered is better than having no firearm at all.

In most situations, carrying a modern designed firearm with a round chambered (and appropriate safety devices, if so equiped, engaged) is better than carrying without a round chambered.

It's your life and your gun. Just realize you may not have quite as much time as you might be thinking you do right now.

knightRider · 05-12-2008, 10:41 AM

i carry both ways, depending on the gun.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 05-12-2008, 11:42 AM

I have had semi's that worked 100% of the time EXCEPT when I needed them most. Because of those really bad experiences I carry a 681 which is exactly like a 686. Every time I have needed it the gun has not failed. All you have to do is buy moon clips and practice changing them. I can fire 12 shots in the same time you can fire 10 from a semi.

(I love firearms as well.)

04-10-2008, 12:29 PM	#43
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 566 Trader Rating: (0)	I carry a Sig 226, fully loaded, chamber and all. The only safety is don't pull the trigger. If I pull it, it's ready for business. __________________ If you run, you'll just die tired.

04-20-2008, 07:50 AM	#44
boesman82 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Richmond,VA Posts: 32 Trader Rating: (0)	I carry mine with round in the chamber, and it stays that way when home or out. __________________ God bless America Semper Fideles

05-07-2008, 04:49 PM	#46
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	How long do you keep it cocked and locked at a time? Like a week or what ever. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-11-2008, 12:36 PM	#51
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,581 Trader Rating: (0)	well lets see , i have a S&w 686 loaded by the bed , same in my truck , i carry different things when you have as many great carry guns as i do <you have to mix it up a little> i know someone will say train with only one , but i say train with your fav top 10 pistols and rifles so you never have to pick up a weapon (yours are the enemies) and stumble. i am familiar with glocks , berretta's , xds, 1911 , H&K's, S&W's , sig's , kel tec and many more, i own at lest one of all the major brands! this is fun HEHEHEHE __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch. Last edited by knightRider; 05-11-2008 at 02:40 PM.

05-11-2008, 01:14 PM	#52
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,696 Trader Rating: (0)	I carry a Glock 19 with one in the chamber in a Blackhawk IWB holster. I occasionally remove the round, but with semi auto it is not good to continuously chamber and remove the same round over and over. There is no point in carrying if you don't have one in the chamber. If you are too scared to be carrying a loaded weapon with one in the chamber then you shouldn't be carrying a gun at all. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

05-07-2008, 02:59 PM	#45
tekhead1219 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	Witness P Compact .45, cocked and locked. Doesn't matter if carry or in my nightstand.

05-08-2008, 01:39 PM	#47
tekhead1219 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Woodlands, TX Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0)	Until I get ready to shoot it or clean it. When it's loaded, it's kept cocked and locked.

05-09-2008, 03:05 PM	#48
Punisher Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 87 Trader Rating: (0)	Im taking my CC Training June 8. So you guys gave me alot to think about. I keep my gun in the house next to me NOT chambered and with the safety on. I have 5 dogs so if they bark I have time to react. Now when I start to carry I was going to carry with a round chambered and safety on.

05-10-2008, 06:59 PM	#49
modificationvt Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 71 Trader Rating: (0)	I carry a XD40SC with a round in the chamber always. Before I had my XD I carried a FEG .380, and I carried that one in the chamber, hamer down (double action first pull)

05-10-2008, 08:11 PM	#50
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	Let me stun a bunch of ya'll, John Browning was a gun designer NOT a gunfighter. He originally designed the 1911 to be carried cocked with only a grip safety. The US Army insisted on a manual safety. I carried a 1911 for years, may get one again. If you grip the 1911 properly your thumb should fall onto the thumb safety. If an Officer gets into a questionable shooting, say a shooting during a struggle, and a civil jury learns that you were carrying a gun with a safety and did not have that safety 'on', you and the Dept will be hung out to dry.

05-11-2008, 02:54 PM	#53
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,581 Trader Rating: (0)	i love guns sorry but i do i really do __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch. Last edited by knightRider; 05-11-2008 at 02:54 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-11-2008, 05:45 PM	#54
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,922 Trader Rating: (0)	You is not alone. The one thing I can honestly say I have a TRUE AND REAL PASSION for... __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

05-12-2008, 04:38 AM	#56
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,385 Trader Rating: (0)	^^Carrying a firearm without a round chambered is better than having no firearm at all. In most situations, carrying a modern designed firearm with a round chambered (and appropriate safety devices, if so equiped, engaged) is better than carrying without a round chambered. It's your life and your gun. Just realize you may not have quite as much time as you might be thinking you do right now. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

05-12-2008, 10:41 AM	#57
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,581 Trader Rating: (0)	i carry both ways, depending on the gun. __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.

05-12-2008, 11:42 AM	#58
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,057 Trader Rating: (0)	I have had semi's that worked 100% of the time EXCEPT when I needed them most. Because of those really bad experiences I carry a 681 which is exactly like a 686. Every time I have needed it the gun has not failed. All you have to do is buy moon clips and practice changing them. I can fire 12 shots in the same time you can fire 10 from a semi. (I love firearms as well.) __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!