7.62x54R Czech ammo

marinevet1010 · 04-14-2008, 07:44 PM

Is it any good? It was $4.75 for a box of 20, so I decided I should order 5 boxes. Just wondering if you guys had any experiences with it?

7.62x54R Czech ammo, 20 rd boxes.

squirrelbaster · 04-14-2008, 07:51 PM

i have not tryed any czech however i realy just buy whatever i can i get the best bulk price on, the bulgarian heavy ball in my fav though

googledotcom24 · 04-14-2008, 09:28 PM

dude wideners supply has the bulgarion heavy for 17 cents a round
aka 50ish for 300 rounds.
Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply INC

OH nevermind they sold out...
maybe they will get a new shipment...sorry!

i just bought some and it looks GREAT!

oh and check this out

7.62x54r Ammunition Evaluations

Sins-of-Mosin · 04-14-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinevet1010

Is it any good? It was $4.75 for a box of 20, so I decided I should order 5 boxes. Just wondering if you guys had any experiences with it?

7.62x54R Czech ammo, 20 rd boxes.

That stuff looks like what I got but I can't confirm that until after this weekend. Well, thats if this stupid state sends me my stupid firearm card. If it is the same stuff, I've never had any problem with it. Don't ask about accuracy cause I sure don't remember, been over three years.

toolman · 04-14-2008, 09:33 PM

The Czech ammo is usually pretty good stuff as it's made by Sellier & Beloit. The biggest complaint is that it's "sticky" in some guns.

patrick70 · 04-14-2008, 11:35 PM

yeah,I clean my chamber out really good before and after I shoot the czech and its works fine. But I still like the 1950s bulgarian the best.

Geo M44 · 04-14-2008, 11:56 PM

Bulgarian brass case HB.

J&G has 300 rounds for $50.

AIM has 250 rounds for $40.

Packed in different type tins so I'm not sure of the difference. The 600 rounds I bought from J&G is in real nice condition.

Also have an order from AIM for reloadable Prvi Partizen (similar to Wolf Gold) at $10.95 a box it's about as good as relaodable brass gets.

marion57 · 04-15-2008, 12:15 AM

I bought 900 rnds from J&G and there all ok to shoot all LB

M39SKY · 04-15-2008, 03:15 AM

Czech LB is one of the best surplus I've used. Very accurate and consistent. I'd rank it second to Polish LB.

Shuak · 04-15-2008, 10:35 AM

I like the Czech LB. When I run the Bulgarian HB through my 1947 M44 the bolt gets really hard to open. Guess the tolerances are funny.

Geo M44 · 04-15-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuak

I like the Czech LB. When I run the Bulgarian HB through my 1947 M44 the bolt gets really hard to open. Guess the tolerances are funny.

It should be the other way around as the Czech is steel-case and the Bulgarian is brass-case. I have (and still do) fired both and had problems with the Czech sticking but not the Bulgarian. Once I polished the breech nothing sticks.

So, clean and polish that breech a little and the M44 won't care what type of case you shoot.

Incidentally the Czech and Bulgarian are both very accurate, and consistant.

Shuak · 04-15-2008, 01:51 PM

Thanks, I'll be cleaning my M44 then. I am positive about the bulgarian though. One of my dad in law's M44s has a hard time closing on them.

Geo M44 · 04-15-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuak

Thanks, I'll be cleaning my M44 then. I am positive about the bulgarian though. One of my dad in law's M44s has a hard time closing on them.

All I can say is scrub and polish those breeches (and I don't mean pants). Does the rifle have trouble closing on just Bulgarian? What other ammo does he use? Just curiuos, as closing the bolt should not be a problem unless there is a ton of crud in the breech, or there's a clearance issue.

Shuak · 04-15-2008, 02:26 PM

We have used all types of ammo, Czech, Russian, Hungarian, Albanian, and Bulgarian. We have only had problems with the Bulgarian. He keeps his rifle Uber clean so it just might be a clearance issue. But we mostly use Albanian.

marion57 · 04-15-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo M44

It should be the other way around as the Czech is steel-case and the Bulgarian is brass-case. I have (and still do) fired both and had problems with the Czech sticking but not the Bulgarian. Once I polished the breech nothing sticks.

So, clean and polish that breech a little and the M44 won't care what type of case you shoot.

Incidentally the Czech and Bulgarian are both very accurate, and consistant.

I agree
+1

gandog56 · 05-08-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo M44

It should be the other way around as the Czech is steel-case and the Bulgarian is brass-case. I have (and still do) fired both and had problems with the Czech sticking but not the Bulgarian. Once I polished the breech nothing sticks.

So, clean and polish that breech a little and the M44 won't care what type of case you shoot.

Incidentally the Czech and Bulgarian are both very accurate, and consistant.

I thought the Bulgarian stuff was copper washed steel?

robertscheib · 05-08-2008, 12:06 PM

I bought a "stash" of 7.62/54r ammo including two crates of Czech silvertip 147gr a couple years ago - in hindsight I wish I'd bought more Czech silvertip....lots more! It's the best surplus 54r ammo I've shot, consistantly accurate and trouble free. No sticky-bolt syndrome if chambers are clean and bolt camming faces polished up. Shoots equally well in 91/30's and carbines.

SwedeSteve · 05-08-2008, 12:24 PM

Gandog- the 10/87 Bulgarian is Copper Washed.

LefthandShooter · 05-08-2008, 02:28 PM

I ordered 600 rounds of the 182 gr. from here:

300 Rds. 182 - Gr. 7.62x54r Fmj Ammo, Rifle Ammunition, Military/Surplus at Sportsman's Guide

Being a member and with a $10 coupon it was $106.12 total. Now to explain the credit card bill when it comes.

04-14-2008, 07:44 PM	#1
marinevet1010 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Goodrich, Michigan Posts: 292 Trader Rating: (0)	7.62x54R Czech ammo Is it any good? It was $4.75 for a box of 20, so I decided I should order 5 boxes. Just wondering if you guys had any experiences with it? 7.62x54R Czech ammo, 20 rd boxes.

04-14-2008, 07:51 PM	#2
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,074 Trader Rating: (0)	i have not tryed any czech however i realy just buy whatever i can i get the best bulk price on, the bulgarian heavy ball in my fav though __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-14-2008, 09:33 PM	#5
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,363 Trader Rating: (0)	The Czech ammo is usually pretty good stuff as it's made by Sellier & Beloit. The biggest complaint is that it's "sticky" in some guns. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

04-14-2008, 11:56 PM	#7
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,031 Trader Rating: (0)	Bulgarian brass case HB. J&G has 300 rounds for $50. AIM has 250 rounds for $40. Packed in different type tins so I'm not sure of the difference. The 600 rounds I bought from J&G is in real nice condition. Also have an order from AIM for reloadable Prvi Partizen (similar to Wolf Gold) at $10.95 a box it's about as good as relaodable brass gets. __________________ Remember when seconds count... the police are only minutes away.

04-15-2008, 12:15 AM	#8
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,697 Trader Rating: (0)	I bought 900 rnds from J&G and there all ok to shoot all LB __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

04-14-2008, 11:35 PM	#6
patrick70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 295 Trader Rating: (0)	yeah,I clean my chamber out really good before and after I shoot the czech and its works fine. But I still like the 1950s bulgarian the best.

04-15-2008, 03:15 AM	#9
M39SKY Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	Czech LB is one of the best surplus I've used. Very accurate and consistent. I'd rank it second to Polish LB.

04-15-2008, 10:35 AM	#10
Shuak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ctrl,alt,del Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0)	I like the Czech LB. When I run the Bulgarian HB through my 1947 M44 the bolt gets really hard to open. Guess the tolerances are funny.

04-15-2008, 01:51 PM	#12
Shuak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ctrl,alt,del Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, I'll be cleaning my M44 then. I am positive about the bulgarian though. One of my dad in law's M44s has a hard time closing on them.

04-15-2008, 02:26 PM	#14
Shuak Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: ctrl,alt,del Posts: 183 Trader Rating: (0)	We have used all types of ammo, Czech, Russian, Hungarian, Albanian, and Bulgarian. We have only had problems with the Bulgarian. He keeps his rifle Uber clean so it just might be a clearance issue. But we mostly use Albanian.

05-08-2008, 12:06 PM	#17
robertscheib Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 66 Trader Rating: (0)	I bought a "stash" of 7.62/54r ammo including two crates of Czech silvertip 147gr a couple years ago - in hindsight I wish I'd bought more Czech silvertip....lots more! It's the best surplus 54r ammo I've shot, consistantly accurate and trouble free. No sticky-bolt syndrome if chambers are clean and bolt camming faces polished up. Shoots equally well in 91/30's and carbines. __________________ The older I get the faster I was!

05-08-2008, 12:24 PM	#18
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,172 Trader Rating: (0)	Gandog- the 10/87 Bulgarian is Copper Washed. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-08-2008, 02:28 PM	#19
LefthandShooter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In A House in NE Ohio! Posts: 1,204 Trader Rating: (0)	I ordered 600 rounds of the 182 gr. from here: 300 Rds. 182 - Gr. 7.62x54r Fmj Ammo, Rifle Ammunition, Military/Surplus at Sportsman's Guide Being a member and with a $10 coupon it was $106.12 total. Now to explain the credit card bill when it comes. __________________ This Space For Rent!