what happens if i get denied for a gun? - Page 4

SilverRun · 01-30-2008, 08:52 PM

I just don't understand the employees or owners at some of these gun shops. They either act like they are doing you a favor to sell you a gun or they are just a total butt-head; half of them barely know which end the bullet comes out of. It seems to be even worse at the gun shows lately. I don't understand how people expect to stay in business like that. Of course, there are many other gun stores that have some of the nicest folks I know working there - I guess it is just life - butt-heads in every profession.

While I am on my soap box - one more gripe (like yall care). The owner of my favorite little pawn shop smokes in his store. I don't care if he smokes, but I have to come home and take a shower after I stop by his place! Man, that bugs me. I wish he wouldn't smoke inside his store - some quick stops around here have the same problem. I just avoid those.

ghost_raven · 01-31-2008, 01:29 AM

Lol... I remember at the store I have my ak on lay-away at (not one of my favorite stores), one employee was swearing up and down that ak47's are chambered for .223

Deersniper · 01-31-2008, 10:08 PM

Don't worry, if your clean, it is your right to own one. Go look at some gun porn until you clear.

Big Dog · 02-01-2008, 05:18 AM

PistolCity - you'd stand out in muster, that's for sure...

I guess they don't think you'd be 'uniform' enough.
They were a lot more slack when I joined, and Zumwalt headed up the military. We had some 'hippies' and others who'd make you look positively "GI". I had my hair so long at one point, the other guys thought I was 'Guard'.

Stores sure do differ. The gal at Wally handling my purchase of a .17HMR rifle had NO clue - she didn't know her stock, tried to give me the ammo with the gun - Big 'NO-NO'! She was more interested in kanoodling with her boyfriend behind the counter.

One store I bought a handgun at, I accidentally gave them the wrong check... "DOH!"
They gave me a frantic call at home, and I went right over and fixed it. He was sweating bullets - I guess the ATF jackboots would not have been pleased! But he knew I was good for it - this was the ninth gun I had bought from him.

tgverdin · 04-11-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

you have a wiating period of 3 minutes down here in louisiana it might be less if someone ain't useing the phone to call home at the time.

When I bought my service weapon for the sheriff's office it only took a couple of minutes and I even lied about one thing on the paper! When it asked if I was on anti-depressants I said no. I've been on them for years because of an seritonin (?) imbalance I have. So what if I say yes I can't get a gun and mess up career? That's messed up.
Loves

lefty o · 04-11-2008, 08:22 PM

not the brightest idea to tell that you've lied on that form on a public forum- it is a felony.

tommy · 04-11-2008, 08:30 PM

yep tee and i astill got the glock 17 too with all the clips minus the ammo. i did put a new front sight on it. yes guys my sister-n-law was a cop too. i bought her gun when she quit . well i got it from her brother who bought it from her.

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Originally Posted by tgverdin

When I bought my service weapon for the sheriff's office it only took a couple of minutes and I even lied about one thing on the paper! When it asked if I was on anti-depressants I said no. I've been on them for years because of an seritonin (?) imbalance I have. So what if I say yes I can't get a gun and mess up career? That's messed up.
Loves

tgverdin · 04-15-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

yep tee and i astill got the glock 17 too with all the clips minus the ammo. i did put a new front sight on it. yes guys my sister-n-law was a cop too. i bought her gun when she quit . well i got it from her brother who bought it from her.

Shit boy....I didn't know you ended up with my gun. That's messed up. lol Well we have a glock 45 right now and a some kind of rifle Ryan got from his dad.
Loves

Big Tool · 04-15-2008, 09:52 PM

Threads like this remind me to love Mississippi. We may have the most obese, lowest income, highest teen age pregnancy rate, etc, etc, but we sure do have things made when it comes to buying a gun.

It usually takes me literally 2 minutes to buy anything from my local mom and pop stores.

I rember going to wal-mart to buy a rifle a while back, and I had to sit there for about 15 minutes "guy didn't know what he was doing" and I about walked out of the store.

I can't imagine waiting for 10 days. Can you buy guns from individuals??? If so that is what i would do

tommy · 04-15-2008, 10:13 PM

yep i got yo "BABY" lol and she looks like new . i keep them clean and nicely oiled so they don't rust this salty air we got down here in south louisiana will do wonders on a gun . oh i also got a MARK1 ruger pistol from your dad i think it was made in 72, or 62 i don't know but he gave me the original box for it too.the box looks old as hell but in good shape.

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Originally Posted by tgverdin

Shit boy....I didn't know you ended up with my gun. That's messed up. lol Well we have a glock 45 right now and a some kind of rifle Ryan got from his dad.
Loves

Righteous · 04-15-2008, 10:13 PM

you can be denied a firearm rather ya done anything wrong or not, it can be a mistake on there part or somebodys records getting crossed with yours. You can usually straighten it out with the NTN number and a call to NICS but either way your delayed. I had a guy try to purchase a pistol other day and had not been in the country to long but had all the right paper work he needed to purchase this pistol, NICS delayed him then hour later called me back and denied him and even wanted his address and phone number which is usually not good. Couple weeks later he came in again and said he wanted to buy the same pistol and see if he would get cleared this time, no big deal, if they havent contacted you yet and its not my life lol but when I called it in this time it was a instant proceed and he got his gun and left.

Hemmingway · 04-16-2008, 09:43 AM

Well maybe I ain't readin' right but, what happens if someone get denied? Does that make it illegal for them to own a gun? Is it just a try, try again thing?

millerlite1323 · 05-01-2008, 09:31 AM

My AR15 came today, after waiting for two months. I went in to pick it up and they told me I was being delayed for a week so they could look a bit more into my backround. All I have on my record is a misdameanor battery, I should be getting my expungement letter in the mail any day now.

Do I have to wrrry about getting this gun now?

tlarkin · 05-01-2008, 09:46 AM

My friend got delayed his first gun purchase and when you get delayed it is because someone with a similar name has a prior and they need to sort it out. When I bought my first hand gun I got approved instantly, paid cash, and walked out with it. No registration in MO, you can drop cash and go.

Some years ago I knew this guy who had the exact same name as another guy who was a criminal. He got a charge for littering and had to go to court to pay a fine. He had tossed a coke bottle out of his car in front of a cop, and the cop wrote him up. When he got to court to pay the fine they tried to stiff him with grand theft auto, assault and something else. He freaked out and was like, no I am here for littering, after they sorted it out they figured out that they had two people with the same exact name and the wrong file got pulled that day in court.

I had another friend who got arrested once for some BS stuff, and he had to go into court. His gf bailed him out and I drove him to court like 3 weeks later, all charges were dropped and everything was good. Then like a week later I am on my front porch drinking and it is late, like 3AM, and these two dudes show up with hand guns, drawn, asking to see my roommate. They were bail bondsmen and they had a paper work error and they thought he didn't show up for court. I had to kindly explain to them that he did show up to court and I know he did because I drove him. He was at his girls house that night and they wanted to search my home. I told them they better get a warrant. They called their offices ran his name and found out that the dip sticks pulled the wrong file out of the cabinet when they were told to go pick up some other guy.

Moral of the story is, people make all kinds of dumb mistakes and I can see you getting delayed or denied for some dumb reasons, and if there is no reason you need to most likely call your local sheriff and have it sorted out.

Zack Flak · 05-08-2008, 02:53 PM

I know a guy who wanted to buy a rifle or something like that, but he got confused about the form. He had been in a mental hospital for a week or two when he was like ten or twelve (Depression), so when it asked if he had been commited he said yes and of course, was denied. So now, he is afraid to try to buy any more guns, even though he has a completly clean record. He said he asked the clerk if something from his minor days would count and the guy said "I can't answer for you, dude." That sucks.

Zack Flak · 05-11-2008, 10:27 AM

Also I told him he should ask for a background check to clear him, but he is afraid of being "busted" for lieing on the form.

troy2000 · 05-11-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hemmingway

Well maybe I ain't readin' right but, what happens if someone get denied? Does that make it illegal for them to own a gun? Is it just a try, try again thing?

No, that in itself doesn't make it illegal to own a gun; it just puts a stop to the current purchase. But it might be an indication a person's not allowed to own any, or that at least someone thinks he isn't.

01-30-2008, 08:52 PM	#61
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	I just don't understand the employees or owners at some of these gun shops. They either act like they are doing you a favor to sell you a gun or they are just a total butt-head; half of them barely know which end the bullet comes out of. It seems to be even worse at the gun shows lately. I don't understand how people expect to stay in business like that. Of course, there are many other gun stores that have some of the nicest folks I know working there - I guess it is just life - butt-heads in every profession. While I am on my soap box - one more gripe (like yall care). The owner of my favorite little pawn shop smokes in his store. I don't care if he smokes, but I have to come home and take a shower after I stop by his place! Man, that bugs me. I wish he wouldn't smoke inside his store - some quick stops around here have the same problem. I just avoid those. __________________ "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." - Alexander Hamilton Last edited by SilverRun; 01-30-2008 at 08:59 PM.

01-31-2008, 01:29 AM	#62
ghost_raven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 408	Lol... I remember at the store I have my ak on lay-away at (not one of my favorite stores), one employee was swearing up and down that ak47's are chambered for .223 __________________ The First Amendment defines America, the Second Amendment defends it.

02-01-2008, 05:18 AM	#64
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	PistolCity - you'd stand out in muster, that's for sure... I guess they don't think you'd be 'uniform' enough. They were a lot more slack when I joined, and Zumwalt headed up the military. We had some 'hippies' and others who'd make you look positively "GI". I had my hair so long at one point, the other guys thought I was 'Guard'. Stores sure do differ. The gal at Wally handling my purchase of a .17HMR rifle had NO clue - she didn't know her stock, tried to give me the ammo with the gun - Big 'NO-NO'! She was more interested in kanoodling with her boyfriend behind the counter. One store I bought a handgun at, I accidentally gave them the wrong check... "DOH!" They gave me a frantic call at home, and I went right over and fixed it. He was sweating bullets - I guess the ATF jackboots would not have been pleased! But he knew I was good for it - this was the ninth gun I had bought from him. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-31-2008, 10:08 PM	#63
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,660	Don't worry, if your clean, it is your right to own one. Go look at some gun porn until you clear.

04-11-2008, 08:22 PM	#66
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,785	not the brightest idea to tell that you've lied on that form on a public forum- it is a felony.

04-15-2008, 09:52 PM	#69
Big Tool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MS Posts: 601	Threads like this remind me to love Mississippi. We may have the most obese, lowest income, highest teen age pregnancy rate, etc, etc, but we sure do have things made when it comes to buying a gun. It usually takes me literally 2 minutes to buy anything from my local mom and pop stores. I rember going to wal-mart to buy a rifle a while back, and I had to sit there for about 15 minutes "guy didn't know what he was doing" and I about walked out of the store. I can't imagine waiting for 10 days. Can you buy guns from individuals??? If so that is what i would do

04-15-2008, 10:13 PM	#71
Righteous Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 214	you can be denied a firearm rather ya done anything wrong or not, it can be a mistake on there part or somebodys records getting crossed with yours. You can usually straighten it out with the NTN number and a call to NICS but either way your delayed. I had a guy try to purchase a pistol other day and had not been in the country to long but had all the right paper work he needed to purchase this pistol, NICS delayed him then hour later called me back and denied him and even wanted his address and phone number which is usually not good. Couple weeks later he came in again and said he wanted to buy the same pistol and see if he would get cleared this time, no big deal, if they havent contacted you yet and its not my life lol but when I called it in this time it was a instant proceed and he got his gun and left.

04-16-2008, 09:43 AM	#72
Hemmingway Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Organ, NM Posts: 22	Well maybe I ain't readin' right but, what happens if someone get denied? Does that make it illegal for them to own a gun? Is it just a try, try again thing?

05-01-2008, 09:31 AM	#73
millerlite1323 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheboygan, WI Posts: 1	My AR15 came today, after waiting for two months. I went in to pick it up and they told me I was being delayed for a week so they could look a bit more into my backround. All I have on my record is a misdameanor battery, I should be getting my expungement letter in the mail any day now. Do I have to wrrry about getting this gun now?

05-01-2008, 09:46 AM	#74
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,551	My friend got delayed his first gun purchase and when you get delayed it is because someone with a similar name has a prior and they need to sort it out. When I bought my first hand gun I got approved instantly, paid cash, and walked out with it. No registration in MO, you can drop cash and go. Some years ago I knew this guy who had the exact same name as another guy who was a criminal. He got a charge for littering and had to go to court to pay a fine. He had tossed a coke bottle out of his car in front of a cop, and the cop wrote him up. When he got to court to pay the fine they tried to stiff him with grand theft auto, assault and something else. He freaked out and was like, no I am here for littering, after they sorted it out they figured out that they had two people with the same exact name and the wrong file got pulled that day in court. I had another friend who got arrested once for some BS stuff, and he had to go into court. His gf bailed him out and I drove him to court like 3 weeks later, all charges were dropped and everything was good. Then like a week later I am on my front porch drinking and it is late, like 3AM, and these two dudes show up with hand guns, drawn, asking to see my roommate. They were bail bondsmen and they had a paper work error and they thought he didn't show up for court. I had to kindly explain to them that he did show up to court and I know he did because I drove him. He was at his girls house that night and they wanted to search my home. I told them they better get a warrant. They called their offices ran his name and found out that the dip sticks pulled the wrong file out of the cabinet when they were told to go pick up some other guy. Moral of the story is, people make all kinds of dumb mistakes and I can see you getting delayed or denied for some dumb reasons, and if there is no reason you need to most likely call your local sheriff and have it sorted out.

05-08-2008, 02:53 PM	#75
Zack Flak Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	I know a guy who wanted to buy a rifle or something like that, but he got confused about the form. He had been in a mental hospital for a week or two when he was like ten or twelve (Depression), so when it asked if he had been commited he said yes and of course, was denied. So now, he is afraid to try to buy any more guns, even though he has a completly clean record. He said he asked the clerk if something from his minor days would count and the guy said "I can't answer for you, dude." That sucks.

05-11-2008, 10:27 AM	#76
Zack Flak Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Also I told him he should ask for a background check to clear him, but he is afraid of being "busted" for lieing on the form.