Are conservatives happier than liberals - Page 2

mitch_mckee · 05-08-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

never said i understood it, i dont have it and thank god.....of course i think we as a nation are hypochondriacs as well and most depression stems from a negative state of mind, im sure there are many genuine cases of depression, but to me alot of it just seems to fake, not trying to sound like an ass, its just the vibes i get alot of the time

Indeed, there are plenty of whiners around but clinical depression is real, and often debilitating and sometimes fatal.

stalebiscuit · 05-08-2008, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mitch_mckee

Indeed, there are plenty of whiners around but clinical depression is real, and often debilitating and sometimes fatal.

not doubting it for a second

GlockMeister · 05-08-2008, 05:11 PM

Liberals get pizzed off and conservatives get pizzed on. lol

Personally, I'd much rather be pizzed off, then pizzed on. I generally get both either way. lmao Nuff said.

publius · 05-08-2008, 08:56 PM

Well, I don't get the conservatives are 'afraid' comment at all. Seems liberals are just about afraid of everything. "Global Warming", sky is falling, an armed citizenry, level (political) playing field, a free enterprise economy, property rights, non PC speech, bugs are dying, etc. After about 9 years of fairly intense political blogging, I can attest that liberals are truely unhappy (and always enraged) people. I think the only time their poor conflicted troubled and delicate minds are at peace is when they're sleeping, and even their sleep might be nightmarish. What really P/O's them though is that they, being of superior intellect and enlightenment (in their minds), have been unable in the ongoing Culture War to out manuever and put away a bunch of knuckle-dragging, conservative unsophisticates. heehee

Seabeescotty · 05-08-2008, 09:51 PM

Now THAT post gave me the heehaws! Welcome to the forum, Publius, anyone who can put a smile on my face is alright!! I don't see what any of us have to be afraid of, except maybe this global warming that Al Gore is so proud of. Here it is May, and I'm still freezing the old cojones every morning. Do I have to call Al in person toget some heat down here? Or aren't we Okies deserving enough to be included? Seriously, I know we disagree on some things, and think the other side is crazy, but I got over fear quite a while ago. Oh, and I don't connsider myself paranoid, or victimized, I am able to take care of me and my loved ones, without handouts from the gummint. And I don't need the gummint to handle my affairs for me. I guess, all in all, I'm just a normal, middle-aged, good ole country boy!

stalebiscuit · 05-08-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

Now THAT post gave me the heehaws! Welcome to the forum, Publius, anyone who can put a smile on my face is alright!! I don't see what any of us have to be afraid of, except maybe this global warming that Al Gore is so proud of. Here it is May, and I'm still freezing the old cojones every morning. Do I have to call Al in person toget some heat down here? Or aren't we Okies deserving enough to be included? Seriously, I know we disagree on some things, and think the other side is crazy, but I got over fear quite a while ago. Oh, and I don't connsider myself paranoid, or victimized, I am able to take care of me and my loved ones, without handouts from the gummint. And I don't need the gummint to handle my affairs for me. I guess, all in all, I'm just a normal, middle-aged, good ole country boy!

couldnt agree more, that is so funny

troy2000 · 05-09-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by publius

Well, I don't get the conservatives are 'afraid' comment at all. Seems liberals are just about afraid of everything. "Global Warming", sky is falling, an armed citizenry, level (political) playing field, a free enterprise economy, property rights, non PC speech, bugs are dying, etc. After about 9 years of fairly intense political blogging, I can attest that liberals are truely unhappy (and always enraged) people. I think the only time their poor conflicted troubled and delicate minds are at peace is when they're sleeping, and even their sleep might be nightmarish. What really P/O's them though is that they, being of superior intellect and enlightenment (in their minds), have been unable in the ongoing Culture War to out manuever and put away a bunch of knuckle-dragging, conservative unsophisticates. heehee

Yep, that describes me to the core. It's a wonder I haven't just jumped off a cliff and ended it all...

Please, gentlemen. Can we skip the wild-eyed generalities? It's bad enough some idiot actually thought the subject was worthy of study and could generate quantifiable, reliable results, given how subjective the terms liberal, conservative and happy are to begin with. And as I said, there was a study a couple of years ago that said the exact opposite.

You'd think people would be a little suspicious of this study , when it claims conservatives are happier only because they deny reality and rationalize away the inequalities of life. Who the heck decided that's a sign of happiness? Although I hate to counter stereotypes with stereotypes, doesn't that sound like something a numbskull who's never had a real job in his life would come up with, if handed enough grant money?

If I were a conservative, I wouldn't really feel flattered to be told I'm happier because I'm rationalizing and ignoring reality; it's basically saying conservatives are happy because they're too dumb to know better...which I don't believe.

Seabeescotty · 05-09-2008, 08:00 AM

That's kinda why I've been having so much fun with it. You can fall in a pile of steaming dung, and be be happy! Happy you didn't break your neck! I don't think you can lump a bunch of generalities together, and say they are happier than the other bunch. We are all individuals, and find happiness in different ways, it has nothing to do with political affiliation. Unless you're a professional politician, with your hand in the countries pocket, that is. But I will say this, reading this ridiculous claim, and the responses, has made me happy to be a member of G&G!

patrick70 · 05-09-2008, 10:12 AM

being happy has nothing to do with politics

Rambo · 05-09-2008, 12:12 PM

All the "Conservatives" I know have police scanners, feel the need to carry a firearm, are afraid illegal aliens are taking over this country, live in "Gated Communities" or the 'Burbs, cross the street when they see three black men standing on a corner and are afraid to take public transportation.
Most "Liberals" I know live in the city or inner city, carry no guns but do hunt, work along side illegals in packing plants or WalMarts, say hello to the blacks hanging on the corner and also ride the bus or bike whenever possible to help save the environment.
Now, mind you, these are just my observations and the fact it may be snowing in your neighborhood at this moment in time does not change the fact that our planet is gradually warming and the polar ice caps and glaciers are still melting.
As for myself, I consider myself a Liberal, legally carry a firearm, voted for Bush(the first time), hang out with policemen and also have black friends and illegal friends who may or may not be wanted by the police at this very moment and planted seven trees around my inner city house to help alleviate the global climate changes that are coming.

stalebiscuit · 05-09-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

All the "Conservatives" I know have police scanners, feel the need to carry a firearm, are afraid illegal aliens are taking over this country, live in "Gated Communities" or the 'Burbs, cross the street when they see three black men standing on a corner and are afraid to take public transportation.
Most "Liberals" I know live in the city or inner city, carry no guns but do hunt, work along side illegals in packing plants or WalMarts, say hello to the blacks hanging on the corner and also ride the bus or bike whenever possible to help save the environment.
Now, mind you, these are just my observations and the fact it may be snowing in your neighborhood at this moment in time does not change the fact that our planet is gradually warming and the polar ice caps and glaciers are still melting.
As for myself, I consider myself a Liberal, legally carry a firearm, voted for Bush(the first time), hang out with policemen and also have black friends and illegal friends who may or may not be wanted by the police at this very moment and planted seven trees around my inner city house to help alleviate the global climate changes that are coming.

i live in atlanta, would like to carry a gun, get along great with mexicans but think if they are illegal they need to be treated as such (ie deportation), dont own a police scanner cause its a waste of money (other than craps and giggles), have many black, asian, gay, lesbian friends, and hate public transportation because it cost 2.25 to ride one way in a urine infested train cart, i yell at the homeless because they dont deserve a damn thing and while a good chunk of atlantas black population is doing just fine, the other part has this stupid viacom influenced thug mentality and act like they are tough stuff

im as right as you can get before getting wrong.....but i will tell you generalizations about people based on political ideology (except for communists and fascists and the super extreme) is retarded

mitch_mckee · 05-09-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

All the "Conservatives" I know have police scanners, feel the need to carry a firearm, are afraid illegal aliens are taking over this country, live in "Gated Communities" or the 'Burbs, cross the street when they see three black men standing on a corner and are afraid to take public transportation.
Most "Liberals" I know live in the city or inner city, carry no guns but do hunt, work along side illegals in packing plants or WalMarts, say hello to the blacks hanging on the corner and also ride the bus or bike whenever possible to help save the environment.
Now, mind you, these are just my observations and the fact it may be snowing in your neighborhood at this moment in time does not change the fact that our planet is gradually warming and the polar ice caps and glaciers are still melting.
As for myself, I consider myself a Liberal, legally carry a firearm, voted for Bush(the first time), hang out with policemen and also have black friends and illegal friends who may or may not be wanted by the police at this very moment and planted seven trees around my inner city house to help alleviate the global climate changes that are coming.

Iowa must be a strange planet because nothing you said is true here.

Liberals are the whiniest unhappiest bunch I've ever met. Nothing but nothing in the liberal's little world can stand without change. Change for the sake of change, and forced on everyone else because the damn liberals thing they know what is best for everybody.

and that is the point of the article. Conservatives can accept reality in all it's good and bad and live with it.

Liberals are always unhappy and want everything changed to suit them. They are essentially little children, clinging to other liberals so that they all come to the right consensus of thought.

patrick70 · 05-09-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mitch_mckee

Iowa must be a strange planet because nothing you said is true here.

Liberals are the whiniest unhappiest bunch I've ever met. Nothing but nothing in the liberal's little world can stand without change. Change for the sake of change, and forced on everyone else because the damn liberals thing they know what is best for everybody.

and that is the point of the article. Conservatives can accept reality in all it's good and bad and live with it.

Liberals are always unhappy and want everything changed to suit them. They are essentially little children, clinging to other liberals so that they all come to the right consensus of thought.

I do agree, liberals are whiny" know it alls".No loyality to the founding FATHERS of this nation.

TXplt · 05-09-2008, 02:15 PM

I'm still happy

rondog · 05-09-2008, 03:53 PM

I'd be a lot happier if I were single, lived in the country with my own range and a big shop, and had more guns, Jeeps, Harleys and Beagles.......

Big Dog · 05-09-2008, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambo

From what I've seen, conservatives are more "afraid" than liberals.

NOT when it comes to civilian possession of firearms, and hunting, and basic prepping issues.

Too many Liberals have the old "head in the sand" attitude - while Conservatives are more realistic about the world situation. I base this on personal observation of those around me. In other AO's, YMMV!

LarryO1970 · 05-09-2008, 05:48 PM

I'm not afraid... but know enough to be well prepared. Liberals (anti-gun activists) are not well prepared, are fighting to get our guns away and have this notion that we (world populous) can all get along. History paints a very different picture, regardless of the political correctness they covet.

troy2000 · 05-09-2008, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by patrick70

I do agree, liberals are whiny" know it alls".No loyality to the founding FATHERS of this nation.

One of the signs of a rabid conservative ideologue (as opposed to someone who simply has conservative viewpoints) is their unfortunate habit of trying to tell me what I believe, instead of asking me...

patrick70 · 05-09-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by troy2000

One of the signs of a rabid conservative ideologue (as opposed to someone who simply has conservative viewpoints) is their unfortunate habit of trying to tell me what I believe, instead of asking me...

I have no problem with you Troy, heck I don't even know you,when I refer to liberals,I mean the extreme left wing types that truly hate conservatives.I grew up in New York City and I know there out there.

publius · 05-09-2008, 07:35 PM

Of course my post above wasn't based on any particular poll or study, the least of which would be some skewed lefty poll in the past. Maybe some people need a remedial course in english comprehension, but I thought I made it perfectly clear that I was making my points based on my real world debates with liberals over the last 9 years. I have actually been studying the democ-rats, liberals, marxists and communists for around 35 years. Here's a little parable I think describes with some clarity the left's (that be liberals) position on compassion and charity.

If you were drowning 50 feet off shore, a liberal would throw you a 100 foot rope, then drop his end and run off to do other "good deeds."

The point being that almost everything liberals do ends up getting the opposite result and being counterproductive. The reason for this is that their theories, proposals, programs, etc., are not based on empirical data, common sense, logical thinking or good science. Rather, they're based on preconceived notions, emotionalism, hysteria and political science. As a consequence almost everything they do to their hated corporations and businesses (re:regulations/taxes), which they purport to do on behalf of the poor, or the working class, ends up hurting those very people. Corporations don't pay taxes people pay taxes, e.g., corporate taxes are passed on to consumers through higher prices for goods and sevices. Where the prices can't be raised layoffs occur. But the liberal mind is satisfied because they "care." Of course, if left to their own devices (re:no political opposition) they would either coopt (nationalize) these entities, or they would force them to eat the taxbite or costs of increased regulation. The name for that doesn't rhyme with democracy and has a well-proven track record of failure throughout the world over the last 90 years.

Now back to compassion and charity. We have to remember that the left (that be liberals) have for many decades owned most of the means of disseminating information in this country. Therefore alot of what has passed as information over the years is actually indoctrination or propaganda. For example: it has been a well-known fact for a long time that liberals are more compassionate and charitable, right? But there has been anecdotal evidence now and then that slips out indicating this may not be true. (Just) one example of this anecdotal evidence was a survey some ten or so years ago of DC cabbies, who were asked: who gives larger tips, democ-rats or republicans, and the answer was overwhelmingly republicans. But now a comprehensive study has been completed which indicates quite strongly that across the board, conservatives are the most benevolent where charitable giving is concerned. The study found that the poorest evangelical conservatives gave more to charity than the richest liberals. This Study was recently highlighted on the 20-20 TV program. Don't ask me which network that's on, because I watch very little TV. John Stossel is on that program and I did happen to catch that particular program. Not sure why, maybe I heard the Study was going to be a part of the show that evening. As I have already demonstrated, compassion is not really compassion at all if it is poorly conceived and administered and ends up being counterproductive, no matter how good the intentions are/were. One might argue for example, that trapping blacks on the democ-rat plantation and in generational welfare, as liberals have done, for the sole purpose of gaining their perpetual votes, is false compassion. Not to speak of promoting indolence. But that brings to mind another parable:

If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote.

And on that note I could go on to demonstrate the relationship between liberals, leftists, marxists and useful idiots, but will forcefully restrain myself. BTW, the ACLU was founded in 1920 on the heels of the Bolshevik Revolution, by self-proclaimed communist Roger Baldwin. And it remains so to this day, marxism being the underlying ideology of communism. And for all intents and purposes, contemporary socialism is marxism.

Of course I don't have to tell gunowners about the malignment and misrepresentations presented to the public by those entities (electronic and print media) charged with disseminating information in the country, e.g., indoctrination and propaganda.

05-08-2008, 05:11 PM	#23
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,504	Liberals get pizzed off and conservatives get pizzed on. lol Personally, I'd much rather be pizzed off, then pizzed on. I generally get both either way. lmao Nuff said. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 05-10-2008 at 01:36 AM.

05-08-2008, 09:51 PM	#25
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,050 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	Now THAT post gave me the heehaws! Welcome to the forum, Publius, anyone who can put a smile on my face is alright!! I don't see what any of us have to be afraid of, except maybe this global warming that Al Gore is so proud of. Here it is May, and I'm still freezing the old cojones every morning. Do I have to call Al in person toget some heat down here? Or aren't we Okies deserving enough to be included? Seriously, I know we disagree on some things, and think the other side is crazy, but I got over fear quite a while ago. Oh, and I don't connsider myself paranoid, or victimized, I am able to take care of me and my loved ones, without handouts from the gummint. And I don't need the gummint to handle my affairs for me. I guess, all in all, I'm just a normal, middle-aged, good ole country boy! __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge

05-09-2008, 08:00 AM	#28
Seabeescotty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Jay, Oklahoma, God's country. Posts: 4,050 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 1	That's kinda why I've been having so much fun with it. You can fall in a pile of steaming dung, and be be happy! Happy you didn't break your neck! I don't think you can lump a bunch of generalities together, and say they are happier than the other bunch. We are all individuals, and find happiness in different ways, it has nothing to do with political affiliation. Unless you're a professional politician, with your hand in the countries pocket, that is. But I will say this, reading this ridiculous claim, and the responses, has made me happy to be a member of G&G! __________________ Adapt, improvise, overcome.-Gysgt Highway, Heartbreak Ridge

05-09-2008, 12:12 PM	#30
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 753	All the "Conservatives" I know have police scanners, feel the need to carry a firearm, are afraid illegal aliens are taking over this country, live in "Gated Communities" or the 'Burbs, cross the street when they see three black men standing on a corner and are afraid to take public transportation. Most "Liberals" I know live in the city or inner city, carry no guns but do hunt, work along side illegals in packing plants or WalMarts, say hello to the blacks hanging on the corner and also ride the bus or bike whenever possible to help save the environment. Now, mind you, these are just my observations and the fact it may be snowing in your neighborhood at this moment in time does not change the fact that our planet is gradually warming and the polar ice caps and glaciers are still melting. As for myself, I consider myself a Liberal, legally carry a firearm, voted for Bush(the first time), hang out with policemen and also have black friends and illegal friends who may or may not be wanted by the police at this very moment and planted seven trees around my inner city house to help alleviate the global climate changes that are coming. __________________ If you run, you'll just die tired.

05-09-2008, 02:15 PM	#34
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,834 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	I'm *still* happy __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

05-08-2008, 08:56 PM	#24
publius Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 45	Well, I don't get the conservatives are 'afraid' comment at all. Seems liberals are just about afraid of everything. "Global Warming", sky is falling, an armed citizenry, level (political) playing field, a free enterprise economy, property rights, non PC speech, bugs are dying, etc. After about 9 years of fairly intense political blogging, I can attest that liberals are truely unhappy (and always enraged) people. I think the only time their poor conflicted troubled and delicate minds are at peace is when they're sleeping, and even their sleep might be nightmarish. What really P/O's them though is that they, being of superior intellect and enlightenment (in their minds), have been unable in the ongoing Culture War to out manuever and put away a bunch of knuckle-dragging, conservative unsophisticates. heehee

05-09-2008, 10:12 AM	#29
patrick70 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 295	being happy has nothing to do with politics

05-09-2008, 03:53 PM	#35
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,335	I'd be a lot happier if I were single, lived in the country with my own range and a big shop, and had more guns, Jeeps, Harleys and Beagles....... __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

05-09-2008, 05:48 PM	#37
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,874	I'm not afraid... but know enough to be well prepared. Liberals (anti-gun activists) are not well prepared, are fighting to get our guns away and have this notion that we (world populous) can all get along. History paints a very different picture, regardless of the political correctness they covet. __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!"

05-09-2008, 07:35 PM	#40
publius Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 45	Of course my post above wasn't based on any particular poll or study, the least of which would be some skewed lefty poll in the past. Maybe some people need a remedial course in english comprehension, but I thought I made it perfectly clear that I was making my points based on my real world debates with liberals over the last 9 years. I have actually been studying the democ-rats, liberals, marxists and communists for around 35 years. Here's a little parable I think describes with some clarity the left's (that be liberals) position on compassion and charity. If you were drowning 50 feet off shore, a liberal would throw you a 100 foot rope, then drop his end and run off to do other "good deeds." The point being that almost everything liberals do ends up getting the opposite result and being counterproductive. The reason for this is that their theories, proposals, programs, etc., are not based on empirical data, common sense, logical thinking or good science. Rather, they're based on preconceived notions, emotionalism, hysteria and political science. As a consequence almost everything they do to their hated corporations and businesses (re:regulations/taxes), which they purport to do on behalf of the poor, or the working class, ends up hurting those very people. Corporations don't pay taxes people pay taxes, e.g., corporate taxes are passed on to consumers through higher prices for goods and sevices. Where the prices can't be raised layoffs occur. But the liberal mind is satisfied because they "care." Of course, if left to their own devices (re:no political opposition) they would either coopt (nationalize) these entities, or they would force them to eat the taxbite or costs of increased regulation. The name for that doesn't rhyme with democracy and has a well-proven track record of failure throughout the world over the last 90 years. Now back to compassion and charity. We have to remember that the left (that be liberals) have for many decades owned most of the means of disseminating information in this country. Therefore alot of what has passed as information over the years is actually indoctrination or propaganda. For example: it has been a well-known fact for a long time that liberals are more compassionate and charitable, right? But there has been anecdotal evidence now and then that slips out indicating this may not be true. (Just) one example of this anecdotal evidence was a survey some ten or so years ago of DC cabbies, who were asked: who gives larger tips, democ-rats or republicans, and the answer was overwhelmingly republicans. But now a comprehensive study has been completed which indicates quite strongly that across the board, conservatives are the most benevolent where charitable giving is concerned. The study found that the poorest evangelical conservatives gave more to charity than the richest liberals. This Study was recently highlighted on the 20-20 TV program. Don't ask me which network that's on, because I watch very little TV. John Stossel is on that program and I did happen to catch that particular program. Not sure why, maybe I heard the Study was going to be a part of the show that evening. As I have already demonstrated, compassion is not really compassion at all if it is poorly conceived and administered and ends up being counterproductive, no matter how good the intentions are/were. One might argue for example, that trapping blacks on the democ-rat plantation and in generational welfare, as liberals have done, for the sole purpose of gaining their perpetual votes, is false compassion. Not to speak of promoting indolence. But that brings to mind another parable: If you rob Peter to pay Paul, you can always count on Paul's vote. And on that note I could go on to demonstrate the relationship between liberals, leftists, marxists and useful idiots, but will forcefully restrain myself. BTW, the ACLU was founded in 1920 on the heels of the Bolshevik Revolution, by self-proclaimed communist Roger Baldwin. And it remains so to this day, marxism being the underlying ideology of communism. And for all intents and purposes, contemporary socialism is marxism. Of course I don't have to tell gunowners about the malignment and misrepresentations presented to the public by those entities (electronic and print media) charged with disseminating information in the country, e.g., indoctrination and propaganda. Last edited by publius; 05-09-2008 at 07:41 PM.