A sad pile of S($!

irish murphy · 05-10-2008, 03:47 AM

I feel sad when i see piles of history rusting away like this.I would give my first born or my left nut for this pile.I can see its mostly 30 calibre BMGs,but there is also a thompson sub machine gun,a boat/plane mounted lewis gun and few different rifles.Can you tell what the rifles are.

Windwalker · 05-10-2008, 06:37 AM

Irish, that is despicable. What a waste! Where was this pic. from?

Dickie d · 05-10-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Windwalker

Irish, that is despicable. What a waste! Where was this pic. from?

I'll bet it from down under. I'm old enough to remember pictures like it with mdl 12 and 1100's being dumped in a furnace after they enacted their gun control laws. Vote smart in the next election or this could be happening HERE!!!

roadie · 05-10-2008, 06:51 AM

Imagine if they were not rusted all up, and you saw that sitting at the curb somewhere...nice grab.

irish murphy · 05-10-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dickie d

I'll bet it from down under. I'm old enough to remember pictures like it with mdl 12 and 1100's being dumped in a furnace after they enacted their gun control laws. Vote smart in the next election or this could be happening HERE!!!

You dont know what you are talking about man.

SwedeSteve · 05-10-2008, 08:48 AM

So tell us irish...

irish murphy · 05-10-2008, 06:10 PM

It is deffinately not in australia.NO ONE would leave a pile of machine guns lying around.Firstly its illegal,second i just want them.Even if the guts has been pulled out of them.

The one thing dickie d said that is right.Be careful who you vote for.We have had two buy (steal) backs and it has done nothing to curb crime.As for we enacting our gun laws.It was the govt not us and dont you think we had a cry seeing all those guns going through a cut off saw??In the handgun stealback the amount of historic pistols crushed was bullshit.Even things like original XP100s were handed over to be crushed..

I dont want to talk about the steal back any more,it makes me way to angry

JohnBlaze · 05-10-2008, 06:37 PM

this one makes me sad too.

once i was emailed a picture from a govt scrap operation in Brazil where you could see a thick trail all the way into the foreground and they are all guns. A steamroller is coming along the trail crushing them.

I cried.....

Midas · 05-10-2008, 06:52 PM

Seeing that makes ya wanna smack the piss out of an anti-gunner, it enrages me.

Mick · 05-10-2008, 06:55 PM

If I was to hazard a guess I'd say it was taken in New guinea or another of the 'islands' most of that stuff looks like WW2 scrap the has been pulled out of the jungle, my father went up the Kokoda track a few years ago and took many pics just like these.

Dickie D.
I don't know what a mdl 12 or 1100 is, but I'd be pretty sure that no-one in Australia has ever legaly owned any weapons like this. As far as being old enough, the major buy backs only happened in 1995-6, after the Port Arthur killings. I was 16 and had a ruger mini-14 my father had an SKK, all his brothers had SLR's or similar rifles, and the police used a hydraulic press too crunch up the actions.
The most disapointing thing I saw during this time was the people who where misinformed and confused about the rules, I saw heirloom shotguns being 'bought' for less than the SKK's and suffering the same fate.

irish murphy · 05-10-2008, 07:08 PM

I think you are on the money mick,its where i would say the pic is from.The steal backs have done nothing to stop any crime.Its a crock of shit and will always be one of the howard govts biggest wastes of tax payers money.The news and media deserve a special mention to.F^&$&#%^#%$%^%&* parasites they are.Like maggots waiting to feed on their own mother.Media helped the antigun movement big time scaring shit out of people who had no idea why guns were so bad until the govt and media told them.Ill stop now before i get cranky.

Mike Franklin · 05-10-2008, 08:23 PM

The San Antonio Police Dept on occasion crushes all the guns they've recovered but couldn't get back to the rightful owner. They've had big pictures on the front page of the local rag bragging about how theses guns will not get into the hands of Gang Members. Now what a Gang Member would want with a scoped deer rifle or overunder shotgun is beyond my understanding? Same ol' PC crap.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 05-10-2008, 10:00 PM

Man just think if you could have that pile. Sad to see them all rusted and destroyed like that. A bunch of Ma Duces all rusted. The Lewis gun must be the one with the handle sticking up on the left?

I see an M1 Carbine stock near the top with no metal in it. Just behind the top most M2 reciever.

I can also see the Thompson Sub Machine gun reciever in the center laying across what looks like a Ma Duce Pintle (dont yell if I didnt spell it right) or tripod. The Tommy reciever is black and is amost dead center.

There is a handguard laying on the ground on the right. I thought it was a Tommy Gun type but it appears too large.

There is that mount laying partialy across the chicken wire and across the M2 Reciever on the chicken wire. It looks like it has a swivel on it. The large cannon looking thing on the far left looks like a Jeep Mount for a Ma Duce.

Looks like mostly US but that Lewis gun would be British so someplace in the South Pacific near you guys in OZ would fit.

irish murphy · 05-10-2008, 11:11 PM

Thats right CMC,the lewis is the one on the left sticking up handle first.Only if you have seen them before you will notice its not the average infantry model.The infantry model had a massive barrel cooling system and had a stock attatched to the rear.This one looks like it was used on a plane or was mounted on a ship/boat in tandem on a swivel.

Also not totally sure but the lewis gun were mostly made in england,but some might have been made here in the lithgow factory.I will find out for my own info and yours too.

ACfixer · 05-12-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Franklin

The San Antonio Police Dept on occasion crushes all the guns they've recovered but couldn't get back to the rightful owner. They've had big pictures on the front page of the local rag bragging about how theses guns will not get into the hands of Gang Members. Now what a Gang Member would want with a scoped deer rifle or overunder shotgun is beyond my understanding? Same ol' PC crap.

Yep, most of those guns get confiscated when there is a domestic disturbance call over a stupid fight with the wife or GF, or if you get pulled over for DUI with a weapon in the car. Usually it's not worth the hassle to try and get them back because the PC folks have made it so red-taped. Then of course comes the brag in the local rag just as you said.

Gang bangers use stolen MAC-10's and itty bitty pistols.

All I can say is chose the times you drink, your women (or men), and your politicians carefully or risk having your gun being one of those in a dump truck.

punkndisorderly · 05-12-2008, 06:55 PM

I think you might be suprised at some of the stuff that gang banger's end up with. I was watching a documentary on the History Channel about gangs in Chicago. They had had basicly turned one of the high rise projects into a fortress and had scoped rifles for sniping at the cops and everything from those itty-bitty .25's to .44mags to AK's to AR's and scoped rifles. Pretty much anything that could be stolen from the law abiding gun owners.

ACfixer · 05-12-2008, 10:57 PM

Yeah I suppose you're right, I saw that episode too.

05-10-2008, 03:47 AM	#1
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	A sad pile of S($! I feel sad when i see piles of history rusting away like this.I would give my first born or my left nut for this pile.I can see its mostly 30 calibre BMGs,but there is also a thompson sub machine gun,a boat/plane mounted lewis gun and few different rifles.Can you tell what the rifles are. Last edited by irish murphy; 05-10-2008 at 05:22 AM.

05-10-2008, 06:37 AM	#2
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,281 Trader Rating: (0)	Irish, that is despicable. What a waste! Where was this pic. from? __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

05-10-2008, 06:51 AM	#4
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 592 Trader Rating: (0)	Imagine if they were not rusted all up, and you saw that sitting at the curb somewhere...nice grab. __________________ Blaming guns for violent acts is like blaming the keyboard for your poor spelling.

05-10-2008, 08:48 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,100 Trader Rating: (0)	So tell us irish... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-10-2008, 06:37 PM	#8
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	this one makes me sad too. once i was emailed a picture from a govt scrap operation in Brazil where you could see a thick trail all the way into the foreground and they are all guns. A steamroller is coming along the trail crushing them. I cried..... __________________ Guns don't kill people. Husbands who came home early from work do. "I'm your Huckleberry"

05-10-2008, 06:10 PM	#7
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	It is deffinately not in australia.NO ONE would leave a pile of machine guns lying around.Firstly its illegal,second i just want them.Even if the guts has been pulled out of them. The one thing dickie d said that is right.Be careful who you vote for.We have had two buy (steal) backs and it has done nothing to curb crime.As for we enacting our gun laws.It was the govt not us and dont you think we had a cry seeing all those guns going through a cut off saw??In the handgun stealback the amount of historic pistols crushed was bullshit.Even things like original XP100s were handed over to be crushed.. I dont want to talk about the steal back any more,it makes me way to angry

05-10-2008, 06:52 PM	#9
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,703 Trader Rating: (0)	Seeing that makes ya wanna smack the piss out of an anti-gunner, it enrages me. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

05-10-2008, 06:55 PM	#10
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	If I was to hazard a guess I'd say it was taken in New guinea or another of the 'islands' most of that stuff looks like WW2 scrap the has been pulled out of the jungle, my father went up the Kokoda track a few years ago and took many pics just like these. Dickie D. I don't know what a mdl 12 or 1100 is, but I'd be pretty sure that no-one in Australia has ever legaly owned any weapons like this. As far as being old enough, the major buy backs only happened in 1995-6, after the Port Arthur killings. I was 16 and had a ruger mini-14 my father had an SKK, all his brothers had SLR's or similar rifles, and the police used a hydraulic press too crunch up the actions. The most disapointing thing I saw during this time was the people who where misinformed and confused about the rules, I saw heirloom shotguns being 'bought' for less than the SKK's and suffering the same fate. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand) Last edited by Mick; 05-10-2008 at 06:57 PM.

05-10-2008, 07:08 PM	#11
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	I think you are on the money mick,its where i would say the pic is from.The steal backs have done nothing to stop any crime.Its a crock of shit and will always be one of the howard govts biggest wastes of tax payers money.The news and media deserve a special mention to.F^&$&#%^#%$%^%&* parasites they are.Like maggots waiting to feed on their own mother.Media helped the antigun movement big time scaring shit out of people who had no idea why guns were so bad until the govt and media told them.Ill stop now before i get cranky.

05-10-2008, 08:23 PM	#12
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,277 Trader Rating: (0)	The San Antonio Police Dept on occasion crushes all the guns they've recovered but couldn't get back to the rightful owner. They've had big pictures on the front page of the local rag bragging about how theses guns will not get into the hands of Gang Members. Now what a Gang Member would want with a scoped deer rifle or overunder shotgun is beyond my understanding? Same ol' PC crap.

05-10-2008, 10:00 PM	#13
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,057 Trader Rating: (0)	Man just think if you could have that pile. Sad to see them all rusted and destroyed like that. A bunch of Ma Duces all rusted. The Lewis gun must be the one with the handle sticking up on the left? I see an M1 Carbine stock near the top with no metal in it. Just behind the top most M2 reciever. I can also see the Thompson Sub Machine gun reciever in the center laying across what looks like a Ma Duce Pintle (dont yell if I didnt spell it right) or tripod. The Tommy reciever is black and is amost dead center. There is a handguard laying on the ground on the right. I thought it was a Tommy Gun type but it appears too large. There is that mount laying partialy across the chicken wire and across the M2 Reciever on the chicken wire. It looks like it has a swivel on it. The large cannon looking thing on the far left looks like a Jeep Mount for a Ma Duce. Looks like mostly US but that Lewis gun would be British so someplace in the South Pacific near you guys in OZ would fit. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!

05-10-2008, 11:11 PM	#14
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0)	Thats right CMC,the lewis is the one on the left sticking up handle first.Only if you have seen them before you will notice its not the average infantry model.The infantry model had a massive barrel cooling system and had a stock attatched to the rear.This one looks like it was used on a plane or was mounted on a ship/boat in tandem on a swivel. Also not totally sure but the lewis gun were mostly made in england,but some might have been made here in the lithgow factory.I will find out for my own info and yours too. Last edited by irish murphy; 05-10-2008 at 11:12 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-12-2008, 06:55 PM	#16
punkndisorderly Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 137 Trader Rating: (0)	I think you might be suprised at some of the stuff that gang banger's end up with. I was watching a documentary on the History Channel about gangs in Chicago. They had had basicly turned one of the high rise projects into a fortress and had scoped rifles for sniping at the cops and everything from those itty-bitty .25's to .44mags to AK's to AR's and scoped rifles. Pretty much anything that could be stolen from the law abiding gun owners.

05-12-2008, 10:57 PM	#17
ACfixer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Turning base to final -KAPV- Posts: 246 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah I suppose you're right, I saw that episode too.