Could you make your own guns?

JohnBlaze · 05-10-2008, 10:50 PM

Well, I was surfing youtube and I found this guy. I immediately subscribed to his channel. The guy makes his own guns from mostly scratch. The only one he uses a piece of a real gun is his one shot pistol, in which he uses part of a revolver. Here's his shotgun.

YouTube - the one inch shotgun

If I was a bit crazier I'd ask him for plans to build my own. Isn't this nuts?

nathangdad · 05-10-2008, 10:53 PM

Besides the legal implications, you enter a world of metallurgy and
pressures. Few people have the training necessary to choose
components for a gun from random steel. It could easily be
more dangerous for you than an attacker.

JohnBlaze · 05-10-2008, 10:57 PM

What would the legal implications be, now that you mention it? On the video comments page he said he used nothing but stuff from the hardware store. Even the shell "casings" he used were homemade. The only thing bought was the powder and the primers.

you should check out his videos.

Big Dog · 05-11-2008, 05:29 AM

You can build your own legally - full auto and cannons excepted - but you can't sell them without the proper licenses and permits.
The limiting factor is your knowledge and skill - just how advanced can you get?
I could do a basic muzzle stuffer with my current tools - but I'd need a good milling machine to get as advanced as I'd really like.

If I was going to do it as a business, I'd probably hire our own BRG3 to ramrod the engineering side of things.

Mooseman684 · 05-11-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

You can build your own legally - full auto and cannons excepted - but you can't sell them without the proper licenses and permits.
The limiting factor is your knowledge and skill - just how advanced can you get?
I could do a basic muzzle stuffer with my current tools - but I'd need a good milling machine to get as advanced as I'd really like.
If I was going to do it as a business, I'd probably hire our own BRG3 to ramrod the engineering side of things.

Big Dog,
You can Build Black powder smoothbore Cannons Legally and in any size you want, as there are no BATFE restrictions on Primitive Weapons ! You can also build Gatling Guns as Long as they are hand crank Operated !!!
As far as the Guy in the Video, That is a ZIP GUN and Highly Illegal...classed as a short barreled shotgun, and he is a fool for using Water pipe...It will come apart on him eventually !
Rich

Troy · 05-11-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Big Dog,
You can Build Black powder smoothbore Cannons Legally and in any size you want, as there are no BATFE restrictions on Primitive Weapons ! You can also build Gatling Guns as Long as they are hand crank Operated !!!
As far as the Guy in the Video, That is a ZIP GUN and Highly Illegal...classed as a short barreled shotgun, and he is a fool for using Water pipe...It will come apart on him eventually !
Rich

Rich, your knowledge of this stuff is cool.............and unnerving. god how i'd love to get a peek at your toys that you don't tell people about.

JohnBlaze · 05-11-2008, 11:01 AM

I think he's German, so there might not be the same restrictions there.

I'd like to build my own cannon, that sounds fun.

Mooseman684 · 05-11-2008, 11:20 AM

Here is My 43 mm Black powder Cannon/ mortar...
I used a piece of 4-1/4" diameter Cold rolled steel shaft from an old Copper mine in the early 1900's and blind bored it on a large lathe one winter...
Took a week to bore out. It shoots Golf balls or 1 lb.Lead balls.

MVC-014S.JPG
Rich

Taurus Fan · 05-11-2008, 01:15 PM

Man in my neighborhood made a cannon just for fun and it blew up, killing him. I wouldn't screw around with that sort of project.

SwedeSteve · 05-11-2008, 01:16 PM

There are more severe restrictions in Germany.

Moose, am I supposed to mail these golf balls back?

andrew cochran · 05-11-2008, 01:32 PM

I agree with Tauras Fan. If you want a cannon a couple of manufacters make em. They are just small models but they are comercially made and I would have no problem using them.

JohnBlaze · 05-11-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Here is My 43 mm Black powder Cannon/ mortar...
I used a piece of 4-1/4" diameter Cold rolled steel shaft from an old Copper mine in the early 1900's and blind bored it on a large lathe one winter...
Took a week to bore out. It shoots Golf balls or 1 lb.Lead balls.

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Rich

Nice!

I've made potato guns that run off of propane tanks before, and I'm not dead yet.

It's just nice to have that kind of DIY resourcefulness. What if we get in a Jericho-type situation and you had no guns?

andrew cochran · 05-11-2008, 01:56 PM

If you have the right materials and tools a cannon is easy to make.

squirrelbaster · 05-11-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnBlaze

Nice!

I've made potato guns that run off of propane tanks before, and I'm not dead yet.

It's just nice to have that kind of DIY resourcefulness. What if we get in a Jericho-type situation and you had no guns?

lol i remember making patato cannons when i was a teenager! those where good times!

JohnBlaze · 05-11-2008, 02:47 PM

did you ever make dry ice bombs?

samuel · 05-11-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nathangdad

Besides the legal implications, you enter a world of metallurgy and
pressures. Few people have the training necessary to choose
components for a gun from random steel. It could easily be
more dangerous for you than an attacker.

The handcannon,what I believe was the first man held firearm was about as dangerous to the person fireing it as the one being shot at.The first shoulder weapons were about as bad if they were castiron.They used some bronze but it wasnt much better. sam.

Mooseman684 · 05-11-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

Man in my neighborhood made a cannon just for fun and it blew up, killing him. I wouldn't screw around with that sort of project.

I'm a Machinist and Gunsmith so I deal with Pressures all the time. I designed mine so you couldn't blow it up with a barrel full of powder...Mine generates enough energy to slide the 80 lb. barrel back 6-10 ft. LOL

BPierce · 05-11-2008, 06:29 PM

When I was a kid I built a handgun out of a .25" pipe with a cap on one end. I built it into an old cap pistol so that the hammer hit the end of the pipe cap. I would put a little black powder in the barrel and seat a patched lead ball over it. Then I would stick what was called a "stick em cap" (just like a single cap in a roll of caps except it had glue on one side), over a flash hole I drilled in the pipe cap. It never blew up and I didn't get arrested, but then if a kid did the things I did now he would probably end up behind bars. We had some exciting times with pipe bombs and rockets as well.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 05-11-2008, 06:55 PM

I have made all kinds of firearms. I can make a .22 from a car antenna and a ballpoint pen. I can also create over 10 different explosives from common household ingredents. I just cant spell worth a crap.

JohnBlaze · 05-11-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

I have made all kinds of firearms. I can make a .22 from a car antenna and a ballpoint pen. I can also create over 10 different explosives from common household ingredents. I just cant spell worth a crap.

is your name Mcgyver?

05-10-2008, 10:53 PM	#2
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,254 Trader Rating: (0)	I WOULDN'T Besides the legal implications, you enter a world of metallurgy and pressures. Few people have the training necessary to choose components for a gun from random steel. It could easily be more dangerous for you than an attacker.

05-10-2008, 10:57 PM	#3
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	What would the legal implications be, now that you mention it? On the video comments page he said he used nothing but stuff from the hardware store. Even the shell "casings" he used were homemade. The only thing bought was the powder and the primers. you should check out his videos. __________________ Guns don't kill people. Husbands who came home early from work do. "I'm your Huckleberry"

05-11-2008, 05:29 AM	#4
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	You can build your own legally - full auto and cannons excepted - but you can't sell them without the proper licenses and permits. The limiting factor is your knowledge and skill - just how advanced can you get? I could do a basic muzzle stuffer with my current tools - but I'd need a good milling machine to get as advanced as I'd really like. If I was going to do it as a business, I'd probably hire our own BRG3 to ramrod the engineering side of things. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-11-2008, 11:01 AM	#7
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	I think he's German, so there might not be the same restrictions there. I'd like to build my own cannon, that sounds fun. __________________ Guns don't kill people. Husbands who came home early from work do. "I'm your Huckleberry"

05-11-2008, 11:20 AM	#8
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,266 Trader Rating: (0)	Here is My 43 mm Black powder Cannon/ mortar... I used a piece of 4-1/4" diameter Cold rolled steel shaft from an old Copper mine in the early 1900's and blind bored it on a large lathe one winter... Took a week to bore out. It shoots Golf balls or 1 lb.Lead balls. MVC-014S.JPG Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-11-2008, 01:15 PM	#9
Taurus Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cobra Command Headquarters Posts: 694 Trader Rating: (0)	Man in my neighborhood made a cannon just for fun and it blew up, killing him. I wouldn't screw around with that sort of project.

05-11-2008, 01:16 PM	#10
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,128 Trader Rating: (0)	There are more severe restrictions in Germany. Moose, am I supposed to mail these golf balls back? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-11-2008, 01:32 PM	#11
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	I agree with Tauras Fan. If you want a cannon a couple of manufacters make em. They are just small models but they are comercially made and I would have no problem using them. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-11-2008, 01:56 PM	#13
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 1,904 Trader Rating: (1)	If you have the right materials and tools a cannon is easy to make. __________________ If you don't have anything good to say... Don't say it!

05-11-2008, 02:47 PM	#15
JohnBlaze Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 119 Trader Rating: (0)	did you ever make dry ice bombs? __________________ Guns don't kill people. Husbands who came home early from work do. "I'm your Huckleberry"

05-11-2008, 06:29 PM	#18
BPierce Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota (Becker County) Posts: 140 Trader Rating: (0)	When I was a kid I built a handgun out of a .25" pipe with a cap on one end. I built it into an old cap pistol so that the hammer hit the end of the pipe cap. I would put a little black powder in the barrel and seat a patched lead ball over it. Then I would stick what was called a "stick em cap" (just like a single cap in a roll of caps except it had glue on one side), over a flash hole I drilled in the pipe cap. It never blew up and I didn't get arrested, but then if a kid did the things I did now he would probably end up behind bars. We had some exciting times with pipe bombs and rockets as well.

05-11-2008, 06:55 PM	#19
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,058 Trader Rating: (0)	I have made all kinds of firearms. I can make a .22 from a car antenna and a ballpoint pen. I can also create over 10 different explosives from common household ingredents. I just cant spell worth a crap. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!