Gun safe weight...

Noel · 05-15-2008, 10:27 PM

Hi… I don’t know if any body can really answer this question… I am going to be moving to an upstairs apartment and I was a little concerned if it would hold the weight of my gun safe… It weighs 850lb with nothing in it… I figure when it is full that it weighs at least 1300 to 1500 pounds… does anyone have any experience with this…? Noel

Mooseman684 · 05-15-2008, 10:33 PM

I think most upper floors are only rated at a Max of 250 lbs/sq. ft.
I wouldn't put a safe that heavy and loaded up there unless it was centered
over a Load bearing wall....if then...
Rich

Noel · 05-15-2008, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I think most upper floors are only rated at a Max of 250 lbs/sq. ft.
I wouldn't put a safe that heavy and loaded up there unless it was centered
over a Load bearing wall....if then...
Rich

I came across another site where they were saying that water beds weight 3 or 4000 pounds and that you never hear of one falling through...

Mooseman684 · 05-15-2008, 11:10 PM

How big are water beds ? 6'4 X 5 = 32 square ft. x 250 lbs.= 8000 lbs Capacity... A queen size mattress hold 160 gallons X 8.345 Lbs.=1335.2 Lbs of water weight....
Water beds weigh less than 2000 lbs total spread over a large surface area...
Get the picture ?
Rich

squirrelbaster · 05-15-2008, 11:24 PM

^+1 i think the moose is correct on both accounts.

nathangdad · 05-15-2008, 11:24 PM

It is about how wide the load is distributed.
A bulldozer is very heavy yet it seldom sinks
to the frame as the weight is distributed over the
large area of the tracks. A woman in spiked high heels
puts a great deal of force on the bottom of the spike
as it is a very small area. In fact, this situation can
lead to little indentions in poor quality asphalt.
The same reasoning applies to a gun safe which is,
in reality, a rather small area.

So, I would not do it. Put you safe on the lower
level preferably on a concrete slab floor.

toolman · 05-15-2008, 11:44 PM

Most apartment complexes have weight limits on upstairs apts.,and most don't allow water beds or the heavier gun safes in upstairs apts.

GlockMeister · 05-16-2008, 12:24 AM

Put it in a corner if possible. Then you're guaranteed to have good floor strength. Also, you'll either need about 4 people and a furniture dolly, or 2 or 3 people and a stair climber. I say this from experience. I and my brother each bought big ones. It took 4 people to maneuver them around and get them up and or down stairs...

As for apartments and what they allow and don't allow, I say what they don't know won't hurt them. Another reason I hate apartments. Pay all that money only to be told what you can and can't do... Move it in at night, be as discrete as possible and who cares what they think. Put it in a corner as I suggested.

Dookiebutt · 05-16-2008, 06:40 AM

Be careful with who you share information on your guns and safe. Use trusted frieds to move the safe, not a movng company. Move the guns in something that doesn't look like a gun. Movers should be a last resort. They would never tell anyone about your big safe . . . .

05-15-2008, 10:27 PM	#1
Noel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ca. Posts: 123	Gun safe weight... Hi… I don’t know if any body can really answer this question… I am going to be moving to an upstairs apartment and I was a little concerned if it would hold the weight of my gun safe… It weighs 850lb with nothing in it… I figure when it is full that it weighs at least 1300 to 1500 pounds… does anyone have any experience with this…? Noel __________________ *To much computer? I could be out plinking!*

05-15-2008, 10:33 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,372 Images: 2	I think most upper floors are only rated at a Max of 250 lbs/sq. ft. I wouldn't put a safe that heavy and loaded up there unless it was centered over a Load bearing wall....if then... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-15-2008, 11:10 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,372 Images: 2	How big are water beds ? 6'4 X 5 = 32 square ft. x 250 lbs.= 8000 lbs Capacity... A queen size mattress hold 160 gallons X 8.345 Lbs.=1335.2 Lbs of water weight.... Water beds weigh less than 2000 lbs total spread over a large surface area... Get the picture ? Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-15-2008, 11:24 PM	#5
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,503	^+1 i think the moose is correct on both accounts. __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

05-15-2008, 11:24 PM	#6
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,804	Yes to Mooseman It is about how wide the load is distributed. A bulldozer is very heavy yet it seldom sinks to the frame as the weight is distributed over the large area of the tracks. A woman in spiked high heels puts a great deal of force on the bottom of the spike as it is a very small area. In fact, this situation can lead to little indentions in poor quality asphalt. The same reasoning applies to a gun safe which is, in reality, a rather small area. So, I would not do it. Put you safe on the lower level preferably on a concrete slab floor.

05-15-2008, 11:44 PM	#7
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,805 Blog Entries: 24	Most apartment complexes have weight limits on upstairs apts.,and most don't allow water beds or the heavier gun safes in upstairs apts. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

05-16-2008, 12:24 AM	#8
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,143	Put it in a corner if possible. Then you're guaranteed to have good floor strength. Also, you'll either need about 4 people and a furniture dolly, or 2 or 3 people and a stair climber. I say this from experience. I and my brother each bought big ones. It took 4 people to maneuver them around and get them up and or down stairs... As for apartments and what they allow and don't allow, I say what they don't know won't hurt them. Another reason I hate apartments. Pay all that money only to be told what you can and can't do... Move it in at night, be as discrete as possible and who cares what they think. Put it in a corner as I suggested. __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6! Last edited by GlockMeister; 05-16-2008 at 12:29 AM.

05-16-2008, 06:40 AM	#9
Dookiebutt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: America's North Coast Posts: 1,272	Be careful with who you share information on your guns and safe. Use trusted frieds to move the safe, not a movng company. Move the guns in something that doesn't look like a gun. Movers should be a last resort. They would never tell anyone about your big safe . . . .