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Old 05-15-2008, 02:43 PM   #21
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None of us are giving up our firearms.

I'd begin thinking about ammo, though. Lots of wacky "microstamping" or serializing stuff coming down the pike.

None of this stops crime.

Unfortunately, I do believe that most firearms stores are required to retain the 4473. This is a form of de-facto gun registration (at least until you have the boating accident). Maybe we could get a law passed that requires their destruction after 90 days.

When are the dems going to learn ? Backing gun control/ammo control is the ultimate form of stupidity. Us voters can see thru this.

Bottom line: don't vote for ANYONE who supports anti 2A legislation. Period. This is very telling--that individual probably also supports a multitude of other stuff that not only doesn't work, but contraindicates liberty and makes the problem worse.
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... Imagine the sheer numbers if gun-owners marched on Washington in support of our 2nd Amendment rights?

Maybe seeing how many voters are gun owners... this may change the minds of some of those in Govt. who are strictly in it for their own skin, not that of a party affiliation.

I shudder to think of the havoc that would ensue if the Govt. attempted to kill off the personal rights to the 2nd Amendment...

Sam, I'm with you, Pred and a lot of others who lost our guns in a tragic boating accident. They are at the bottom of Lake Whatsitsname.
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That's the third election lately where a Republican in what used to be a safe district has been beaten by a conservative Democrat--I hope we're seeing a trend here, where each of the major parties becomes a little more balanced, and has to start appealing to a broad range of people instead of just the hard-core, activist bases they've been appealing to.

Those folks in Mississippi certainly didn't elect that guy to go to Washington simply to rubber-stamp any agenda Nancy Pelosi might have.

By the way, you guys need to take boating safety classes. My guns are in my safes where they belong, and I'm working to make sure they legally stay there...
Oh, really. What are you doing?

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I'm afraid they will start by going after the folks like me who re-load. You will have to pay out the nose for a license to reload, or they will outlaw buying gunpowder, or some B.S. like that.
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I'm afraid they will start by going after the folks like me who re-load. You will have to pay out the nose for a license to reload, or they will outlaw buying gunpowder, or some B.S. like that.
Stock up!

I still have ammo from the last Clinton regime.
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I still have ammo from the last Clinton regime.
Guess I better.
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Better rethink that whole liberal stance if you really want to make sure they legally stay there.
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Better rethink that whole liberal stance if you really want to make sure they legally stay there.
He may be from California and he may be a, "cough" Liberal, but he sure can cook and shoot. LOL! He's a smart guy and he'll eventually see our way.
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OK, but I refuse to carry more than four at a time....
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None of us are giving up our firearms.

I'd begin thinking about ammo, though. Lots of wacky "microstamping" or serializing stuff coming down the pike.

None of this stops crime.

Unfortunately, I do believe that most firearms stores are required to retain the 4473. This is a form of de-facto gun registration (at least until you have the boating accident). Maybe we could get a law passed that requires their destruction after 90 days.

When are the dems going to learn ? Backing gun control/ammo control is the ultimate form of stupidity. Us voters can see thru this.

Bottom line: don't vote for ANYONE who supports anti 2A legislation. Period. This is very telling--that individual probably also supports a multitude of other stuff that not only doesn't work, but contraindicates liberty and makes the problem worse.
It's really not about crime control,it's about the politicians getting total control over us
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He may be from California and he may be a, "cough" Liberal, but he sure can cook and shoot. LOL! He's a smart guy and he'll eventually see our way.
Thats what I am hoping for..lol.
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Them dancing bananas scare me! LOL!
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The democrats already think they have won veto proof congress and the presidential election and it looks like they have. I am hearing more about bringing back the assault weapons ban,handgun ban,idenity ammo,and more.It looks like they will win a veto proof congress and besides I believe the weak kneed republicans would vote with the gun grabbers anyway.It is my opinion that the supreme court will hand the DC decision back to the lower courts instead of making a ruling on second amendment rights.This would guarantee anti gun laws popping up all over.(not that they wont anyway)I predict a gungrab like England had within 1to2yrs.With 90mil.gun owners this sounds impossible but with the anti,s ability to sneak their bills in on some giveaway deal that sounds good to people with their hands out,which makes up more than half the population(including illegals)and a veto proof congress,a democrat president,or both,I dont believe the anti,s can fail.I believe gun ownership in the U.S. is almost over.When the guns go,our freedom goes too.I am very depressed. sam.
Where did you get all these ideas from? Illegals can't vote either, so I am not sure your point there.

You really think they will ban guns in America? Honestly?
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Where did you get all these ideas from? Illegals can't vote either, so I am not sure your point there.

You really think they will ban guns in America? Honestly?
When are you gonna wake up.
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Ban guns completely? If they start getting what they want, in about 50 years. But, in the mean time they can throw in a bunch of tiny bans like that during the formal Clinton terms and also as stated before, put bans on buying gunpowder or brass. Then there's the ban on specific types on pistols such as anything shooting a rifle cartridge or the like. After that there's a ban on specific types of ammo that's anything other than a hunting rd. After that you have handguns being banned. Then it will be illegal for anyone under 21 to own a rifle. There are any number of small things that could be done that in and of themselves wouldn't seem like a major problem to people. But we all know that any kind of restriction whatsoever is a direct violation of the 2nd Amendment. I still don't understand how anyone could possibly mistake that amendment. It's all of one whole sentence...
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I understand the bottom of the lake theory. Legally, you guys have to keep in mind the ciminal aspect of reporting guns stolen when their not. They can come back at you for false report of a crime. Typical investigation technique. Works well. When they force anyone selling guns to go through FFL holder it becomes too late to say I sold so and so to a private individual.
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Better rethink that whole liberal stance if you really want to make sure they legally stay there.
What exactly what is "liberal" about my stance? And exactly how would pretending I don't own any guns help me keep them legally?
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Love to read your posts, Troy but ya gotta admit that for the wacky gun control the stuff almost always is started by the democrats. I really wish that wasn't so. I label myself as neither a lib nor con; but==when it comes down to brass tax, unfortunately, those leaning right try to grab our guns less than those leaning left.

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Where did you get all these ideas from? Illegals can't vote either, so I am not sure your point there.
You really think they will ban guns in America? Honestly?
Altho I dont listen to news and politics like I used to,I would have to be blind and deaf to miss all of it.Or possibly in another orbit as you seem to be if you actually think illegals cant vote.If they cant vote why are all of the politicians pushing for their vote.You should have stated they rarely vote over twice.As to banning guns in America,how old are you?Were you around in the 90,s?Have you heard of Washington D.C. and the handgun ban?Have you heard of Chicago,Ill.and the firearms ban?Have you heard that felons do not have to register firearms because it would be self incriminating but all non,felons must register and pass a background check for any purchase from a licensed dealer?Do you really believe they destroy those records? sam.

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