Concern about Nagant ammo

Tulamosin · 04-14-2008, 02:06 AM

Has anyone here shot wadcutter .32 S&W Long out of their 1895 Nagant? I accidentally ordered the wadcutter type and the shape of the bullet has me concerned about its safety in a Nagant. It looks like it would end up plugging the barrel and causing bad things to happen. Any insight or experience would be appreciated.

SwedeSteve · 04-14-2008, 04:12 PM

Don't know for sure, but I think it would foul up pretty fast. Someone with more knowledge than I will be along.

squirrelbaster · 04-14-2008, 08:18 PM

can we get a pic of the ammo?
and you gun for that matter!

Tulamosin · 04-14-2008, 10:36 PM

Ask and ye shall recieve.

1936 Tula from AIM with all numbers matching.

The wadcutter are the two shells to the right.

squirrelbaster · 04-15-2008, 10:54 AM

thats a real nice pistol you got there! the handle looks great.

and now i have to research wadcutters. im a bit confused by this pic.

BaserRonin · 04-15-2008, 11:01 AM

Nice Picture. If it will shoot .32 S&W Long it should shoot .32 S&W Long Wadcutters also. Wadcutters are typically very accurate. At least they are in .38.

I didn't know you could shoot .32 S&W Long out of a Nagant though; did I miss that or did I not fully understand the question?

Tulamosin · 04-15-2008, 01:51 PM

Yeah, you can shoot 32 S&W Longs out of a Nagant if you don't mind a bit of lead shavings coming back at you. The diameter of the .32 bullet is slightly larger than that of the Nagant round; so a bit of the lead gets shaved off when the bullet enters the barrel. It's a little extra cleanup, but not much.

From what I understand, the wadcutter bullet is designed for use on paper targets (not a defensive round). Instead of having a regular rounded nose; the nose is flat.

If it matters, the wadcutter rounds I have are made by Fiocchi. Whereas my 7.62 Nagant and .32 S&W Long come from Prvi Partizan.

BaserRonin · 04-15-2008, 02:06 PM

Yeah, wadcutters are great target rounds. They leave a perfect hole in paper, It's really pretty neat.

If ball is safe enough I would imagine wadcutters would squish down in the same manner. I would love to know how this turns out though. I have wanted a Nagant revolver for quite a while, but the price of 7.62 Nagant for them has stopped me. Thanks for the heads up on the .32 SW long

Edit: If it shoots ball okay, I would not be afraid of trying the wadcutters.

ArkansasHunter · 04-15-2008, 02:16 PM

Ask Mooseman ! I can't get over some of the nice condition Nagant revolvers I've seen on here and at other place's.
Tulamosin yours looks nice too.

big boomer · 04-15-2008, 03:19 PM

The standard Nagant round is smaller dia than a 32 is. It will work but you may get lead buildup in your barrel it will clean out with some brushing. I got some 98 grain wadcutter bullets for my nagant from Graf they are 308. dia and copper plated can't wait to see how they shoot.

Paper · 04-15-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BaserRonin

Yeah, wadcutters are great target rounds. They leave a perfect hole in paper, It's really pretty neat.

Neat? Leaving perfect holes in me is neat??

Great looking Nagant Revolver!!!

Tulamosin · 04-15-2008, 09:31 PM

I think I'm going to tie it to a tree and try a few of those rounds. They should be alright but I'm not going to risk bodily harm testing them. I'll let ya'll know how it goes.

The Nagant is the best revolver $80 can buy.

gandog56 · 04-16-2008, 11:27 AM

Got mine for $69.95!

gandog56 · 04-17-2008, 05:49 PM

I don't know, I heard bad things about spitting lead from shooting WC's in a Nagant. Since the forcing cone is not really a forcing cone, and 32's don't do the gas seal thing, I would tend to believe it.

Tulamosin · 06-05-2008, 10:38 PM

It's been a while but I have a resolution to my own question.

Wadcutters WILL work in a Nagant; but they aren't any fun. The low powder charge in wadcutters makes it feel like you're shooting a pellet gun instead of a real one.

As to the lead buildup; I only fired 7 wadcutters and there was quite a bit of lead to clean away afterwards.

Verdict: You won't enjoy it, but they do work.

billy · 06-05-2008, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulamosin

It's been a while but I have a resolution to my own question.

Wadcutters WILL work in a Nagant; but they aren't any fun. The low powder charge in wadcutters makes it feel like you're shooting a pellet gun instead of a real one.

As to the lead buildup; I only fired 7 wadcutters and there was quite a bit of lead to clean away afterwards.

Verdict: You won't enjoy it, but they do work.

well.............POOP!

SwedeSteve · 06-06-2008, 08:23 AM

Back to the drawing board !!

gandog56 · 06-07-2008, 01:25 AM

Aw come on. Hotshot ammo isn't THAT expensive.

SemperFi76 · 06-07-2008, 01:52 AM

what's better 5.56 or 6.8

gandog56 · 06-07-2008, 12:29 PM

I don't know, but why did you post it here?

5.56 easier to buy.

04-14-2008, 02:06 AM	#1
Tulamosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Powder Springs, Georgia Posts: 101	Concern about Nagant ammo Has anyone here shot wadcutter .32 S&W Long out of their 1895 Nagant? I accidentally ordered the wadcutter type and the shape of the bullet has me concerned about its safety in a Nagant. It looks like it would end up plugging the barrel and causing bad things to happen. Any insight or experience would be appreciated.

04-14-2008, 04:12 PM	#2
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,286 Images: 1	Don't know for sure, but I think it would foul up pretty fast. Someone with more knowledge than I will be along. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-14-2008, 08:18 PM	#3
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,237	can we get a pic of the ammo? and you gun for that matter! __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-15-2008, 10:54 AM	#5
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,237	thats a real nice pistol you got there! the handle looks great. and now i have to research wadcutters. im a bit confused by this pic. __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

04-15-2008, 11:01 AM	#6
BaserRonin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a Dark Cubicle Posts: 371	Nice Picture. If it will shoot .32 S&W Long it should shoot .32 S&W Long Wadcutters also. Wadcutters are typically very accurate. At least they are in .38. I didn't know you could shoot .32 S&W Long out of a Nagant though; did I miss that or did I not fully understand the question? __________________ "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge

04-14-2008, 10:36 PM	#4
Tulamosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Powder Springs, Georgia Posts: 101	Ask and ye shall recieve. 1936 Tula from AIM with all numbers matching. The wadcutter are the two shells to the right.

04-15-2008, 01:51 PM	#7
Tulamosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Powder Springs, Georgia Posts: 101	Yeah, you can shoot 32 S&W Longs out of a Nagant if you don't mind a bit of lead shavings coming back at you. The diameter of the .32 bullet is slightly larger than that of the Nagant round; so a bit of the lead gets shaved off when the bullet enters the barrel. It's a little extra cleanup, but not much. From what I understand, the wadcutter bullet is designed for use on paper targets (not a defensive round). Instead of having a regular rounded nose; the nose is flat. If it matters, the wadcutter rounds I have are made by Fiocchi. Whereas my 7.62 Nagant and .32 S&W Long come from Prvi Partizan.

04-15-2008, 02:06 PM	#8
BaserRonin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In a Dark Cubicle Posts: 371	Yeah, wadcutters are great target rounds. They leave a perfect hole in paper, It's really pretty neat. If ball is safe enough I would imagine wadcutters would squish down in the same manner. I would love to know how this turns out though. I have wanted a Nagant revolver for quite a while, but the price of 7.62 Nagant for them has stopped me. Thanks for the heads up on the .32 SW long Edit: If it shoots ball okay, I would not be afraid of trying the wadcutters. __________________ "It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favour of vegetarianism" ~ R. W. Inge Last edited by BaserRonin; 04-15-2008 at 02:08 PM.

04-15-2008, 02:16 PM	#9
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,678	Ask Mooseman ! I can't get over some of the nice condition Nagant revolvers I've seen on here and at other place's. Tulamosin yours looks nice too.

04-15-2008, 03:19 PM	#10
big boomer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Minn. Posts: 945	The standard Nagant round is smaller dia than a 32 is. It will work but you may get lead buildup in your barrel it will clean out with some brushing. I got some 98 grain wadcutter bullets for my nagant from Graf they are 308. dia and copper plated can't wait to see how they shoot.

04-15-2008, 09:31 PM	#12
Tulamosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Powder Springs, Georgia Posts: 101	I think I'm going to tie it to a tree and try a few of those rounds. They should be alright but I'm not going to risk bodily harm testing them. I'll let ya'll know how it goes. The Nagant is the best revolver $80 can buy.

04-16-2008, 11:27 AM	#13
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,193	Got mine for $69.95!

04-17-2008, 05:49 PM	#14
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,193	I don't know, I heard bad things about spitting lead from shooting WC's in a Nagant. Since the forcing cone is not really a forcing cone, and 32's don't do the gas seal thing, I would tend to believe it.

06-05-2008, 10:38 PM	#15
Tulamosin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Powder Springs, Georgia Posts: 101	It's been a while but I have a resolution to my own question. Wadcutters WILL work in a Nagant; but they aren't any fun. The low powder charge in wadcutters makes it feel like you're shooting a pellet gun instead of a real one. As to the lead buildup; I only fired 7 wadcutters and there was quite a bit of lead to clean away afterwards. Verdict: You won't enjoy it, but they do work.

06-06-2008, 08:23 AM	#17
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,286 Images: 1	Back to the drawing board !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

06-07-2008, 01:25 AM	#18
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,193	Aw come on. Hotshot ammo isn't THAT expensive.

06-07-2008, 01:52 AM	#19
SemperFi76 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1	what's better 5.56 or 6.8

06-07-2008, 12:29 PM	#20
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,193	I don't know, but why did you post it here? 5.56 easier to buy.