Lever Action 45-70

EHCRain10 · 04-28-2008, 03:40 PM

Ive recently decided that I want a 45-70 lever action rifle, who else besided marlin makes a lever gun in this caliber?

irish murphy · 04-28-2008, 03:45 PM

If it was me i would buy a marlin.

Browning and sharps come to mind.Go the marlins

Pumpkinheaver · 04-28-2008, 04:03 PM

Winchester/Browning offers them from time to time in reproduction 1886s. Other than that marlin is the way to go.

Here's mine.

mitch009 · 04-28-2008, 04:09 PM

I just picked up my marlin 45/70 and for the 500 dollar price tag I don't think you can beat it.

EHCRain10 · 04-29-2008, 10:34 AM

All of what you guys are saying is exactly what I was figuring but i wanted to make sure i wasn't overlooking another manufacturer.
Thanks for the help!

Rex in OTZ · 04-29-2008, 04:12 PM

As Winchester was going outta buisness there were adds in the shot gun news, some 1886 rolled out $1200 take down model 1886 lever rifles and carbines some in grade II as well as some 1895's in 405Win.

Best bet for a shooter would be a Marlin 1895 std or a ported 18"? guide gun. can get after market parts for the marlin to improve performance " drop in trigger job, HD extractor,scout scope mount, pay extra & get converted to a take down model" some really neat stuff If you want to spend the $$$$$

Windwalker · 04-29-2008, 04:48 PM

Yeah, the 1895 Cowboy Model has a 26'bbl. and a 9 shot tubular mag. If you can't kill anything that walks in North America with 10 rounds of 45-70 just sit down, put your head between your legs and kiss your *** self goodbye.

turner · 04-29-2008, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHCRain10

Ive recently decided that I want a 45-70 lever action rifle, who else besided marlin makes a lever gun in this caliber?

Depending on just what you are wanting to hunt with this rifle ... might lead you to consider the .450 marlin BLR. this is made (factory) in take-down models, and the Hornady LE loads are not significantly more expensive, than 45/70 loads. There are lots of "big bore" rounds that are "suggested" for "L A R G E" game are really expensive to shoot. Go ahead and price some 9.3x74.... .458WM... even quality .375 H&H and then look at the LE .450 round. Which can you afford to shoot! The 45/70 has some less expensive light loadings available, but if you want big bore performance rounds, I see the .450 marlin and BLR/Marlin rifles as king.

RetSFmed · 06-07-2008, 06:09 PM

Hello,
I am new to these types of forums. My question is this. Has anyone seen a 1895 CB 45-70 in a 20" barrel? I just put a used one on layaway. It is in almost pristine condition, I would venture to say hardly used. I have search the web sites and can't find anything in reference to a 20" 1895 CB. Is or was this a special run? 1st two numbers of the SN# are 98xxxxxx. Thanks

LiveToShoot · 06-07-2008, 06:26 PM

Congrats on your 1895...and what an experience is ahead of you when you take her out shooting.

Mine heads out with me whenever I'm in the woods, an 1895G...like Pumpkinheaver posted a pic of above, less the scope.

There's another one for sale locally, in SS, for $450, and I've been chomping at the bit as to whether or not to get a second one.

So many choices and only so much discretionary money to spend...

Romey · 06-07-2008, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turner

Depending on just what you are wanting to hunt with this rifle ... might lead you to consider the .450 marlin BLR. this is made (factory) in take-down models, and the Hornady LE loads are not significantly more expensive, than 45/70 loads. There are lots of "big bore" rounds that are "suggested" for "L A R G E" game are really expensive to shoot. Go ahead and price some 9.3x74.... .458WM... even quality .375 H&H and then look at the LE .450 round. Which can you afford to shoot! The 45/70 has some less expensive light loadings available, but if you want big bore performance rounds, I see the .450 marlin and BLR/Marlin rifles as king.

+1

Johnny_Revolver · 06-07-2008, 07:25 PM

It`s funny, but I`ve had a real hankering for a big bore lever gun ( it`ll be a Marlin ) lately.

I`ve had experience with a Triple Four ( and still gnash my teeth abut a mate who swapped it for a shotgun and dint tell me first! )

But, I will admit that .450 Marlin is calling me loud and clear...

My memorys of the 444 are all warm and fuzzy, it was very nice to fire, fun actually, but stomach churning on soft skinned game.

I reckon I`ll go with a scope though, anything else just doesn`t work for me..

Lil 4 power or a 1.5 - 5 maybe..

RetSFmed · 06-08-2008, 06:58 AM

My 1895 CB will be a back-up or main rifle, depends on how you look at it. Here in NM it is a good idea to have at least two rifles: One for the hills and/or canyons (my R700 .300winmag) and one for the brush you find in the foothils. The juniper and pinon. In this stuff it is rare to get a shooting more than a 100-150 yds and the M700 is to cumbersom to tote. Just depends on what and where you are hunting that day.

Windwalker · 06-08-2008, 07:20 AM

RetSFmed, I am not familiar with a Marln 1895 Cowboy Model being made in a 20" bbl in 45-70 cal. Sorry I can't be more help.

RetSFmed · 06-08-2008, 07:35 AM

I am wondering if is a special run or issue? It has the octagon barrel. It is blued w/ the smooth walnut stock, not checkered like the new Marlin 1895's Or manufacturer's error when stamping the barrel? As I said before, it is on layaway, so I won't have it for a few months.

LiveToShoot · 06-08-2008, 08:20 AM

Had one of the 1895 CB's in my hands yesterday, and it was a fine looking lever gun... My wife really liked the looks of it too.

Also, there was a Marlin 450 in the rack. I avoided picking it up, cause I could just tell it would have gotten under my skin...and then I'd be tryin' to figure how to work it in the budget. My next larger caliber rifle will be the "Thumper" and I can't let anything else get in the way of that purchase.

http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=543

RetSFmed · 06-08-2008, 08:59 AM

I can't quite justify the "thumper" for myself. I am more of a traditionalist when it comes to rifles, even for sport shooting. Guess I played w/ to many assualt type rifles in the military. I am still partial to my colt .45's... But I still like my rifles to reach out an touch something, usually in a .30 cal variation

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LiveToShoot · 06-08-2008, 09:04 AM

Oh yea, I understand the "reach out" concept...

I was shooting a friend's 7mm RSAUM a couple of days ago, to see how the reloads were working...and that's a reach out and touch something rifle/round.

Also, I loaded up some rounds for his 300 WM and they'll have a serious greeting with whatever the meet...

I like the Thumper cause it reminds me of my experiences with and fondness for the M16, only with a harder greeting on impact, and I like being able to have several magazines of extra ammo ready to slip in when needed...

RetSFmed · 06-08-2008, 09:19 AM

The only use for magazines these days are for the colts and the M1 carbine. A damn fun piece to shoot. For that matter, so is Garand.

RetSFmed · 06-12-2008, 06:15 PM

Just found out some info on the 1895 CB. I called Marlin today; they checked the SN# and the CB rifle in question was actually a full size CB - 26" barrel manufactured in 2002. Appearently, whomever owned the rifle previously had the barrel and tube shortened. The gunsmith who did the work has done a very good job, I couldn't tell. So now I have a shortened 1895 CB on layaway. I don't suppose the ballistics should be greatly altered - the guide gun is only 18 1/2" and a standard 1895 is 22". Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated. By the way, I use factory ammo.

04-28-2008, 03:40 PM	#1
EHCRain10 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dinwiddie, VA Posts: 117	Lever Action 45-70 Ive recently decided that I want a 45-70 lever action rifle, who else besided marlin makes a lever gun in this caliber? __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

04-28-2008, 03:45 PM	#2
irish murphy Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Canberra,Australia Posts: 1,028 Blog Entries: 5	If it was me i would buy a marlin. Browning and sharps come to mind.Go the marlins Last edited by irish murphy; 04-28-2008 at 03:48 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-28-2008, 04:03 PM	#3
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,340	Winchester/Browning offers them from time to time in reproduction 1886s. Other than that marlin is the way to go. Here's mine. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

04-29-2008, 10:34 AM	#5
EHCRain10 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dinwiddie, VA Posts: 117	All of what you guys are saying is exactly what I was figuring but i wanted to make sure i wasn't overlooking another manufacturer. Thanks for the help! __________________ Si vis pacem, para bellum.

04-29-2008, 04:12 PM	#6
Rex in OTZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kotzebue, Alaska Posts: 441	45-70 lever rifles As Winchester was going outta buisness there were adds in the shot gun news, some 1886 rolled out $1200 take down model 1886 lever rifles and carbines some in grade II as well as some 1895's in 405Win. Best bet for a shooter would be a Marlin 1895 std or a ported 18"? guide gun. can get after market parts for the marlin to improve performance " drop in trigger job, HD extractor,scout scope mount, pay extra & get converted to a take down model" some really neat stuff If you want to spend the $$$$$

04-28-2008, 04:09 PM	#4
mitch009 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: WA Posts: 129	I just picked up my marlin 45/70 and for the 500 dollar price tag I don't think you can beat it.

04-29-2008, 04:48 PM	#7
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,585	Yeah, the 1895 Cowboy Model has a 26'bbl. and a 9 shot tubular mag. If you can't kill anything that walks in North America with 10 rounds of 45-70 just sit down, put your head between your legs and kiss your *** self goodbye. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

06-07-2008, 06:09 PM	#9
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	Hello, I am new to these types of forums. My question is this. Has anyone seen a 1895 CB 45-70 in a 20" barrel? I just put a used one on layaway. It is in almost pristine condition, I would venture to say hardly used. I have search the web sites and can't find anything in reference to a 20" 1895 CB. Is or was this a special run? 1st two numbers of the SN# are 98xxxxxx. Thanks

06-07-2008, 06:26 PM	#10
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,071	Congrats on your 1895...and what an experience is ahead of you when you take her out shooting. Mine heads out with me whenever I'm in the woods, an 1895G...like Pumpkinheaver posted a pic of above, less the scope. There's another one for sale locally, in SS, for $450, and I've been chomping at the bit as to whether or not to get a second one. So many choices and only so much discretionary money to spend... __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

06-07-2008, 07:25 PM	#12
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,209 Blog Entries: 6	It`s funny, but I`ve had a real hankering for a big bore lever gun ( it`ll be a Marlin ) lately. I`ve had experience with a Triple Four ( and still gnash my teeth abut a mate who swapped it for a shotgun and dint tell me first! ) But, I will admit that .450 Marlin is calling me loud and clear... My memorys of the 444 are all warm and fuzzy, it was very nice to fire, fun actually, but stomach churning on soft skinned game. I reckon I`ll go with a scope though, anything else just doesn`t work for me.. Lil 4 power or a 1.5 - 5 maybe.. __________________ It`s a good life, provided you don`t weaken.

06-08-2008, 06:58 AM	#13
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	My 1895 CB will be a back-up or main rifle, depends on how you look at it. Here in NM it is a good idea to have at least two rifles: One for the hills and/or canyons (my R700 .300winmag) and one for the brush you find in the foothils. The juniper and pinon. In this stuff it is rare to get a shooting more than a 100-150 yds and the M700 is to cumbersom to tote. Just depends on what and where you are hunting that day.

06-08-2008, 07:20 AM	#14
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,585	RetSFmed, I am not familiar with a Marln 1895 Cowboy Model being made in a 20" bbl in 45-70 cal. Sorry I can't be more help. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

06-08-2008, 07:35 AM	#15
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	I am wondering if is a special run or issue? It has the octagon barrel. It is blued w/ the smooth walnut stock, not checkered like the new Marlin 1895's Or manufacturer's error when stamping the barrel? As I said before, it is on layaway, so I won't have it for a few months.

06-08-2008, 08:20 AM	#16
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,071	Had one of the 1895 CB's in my hands yesterday, and it was a fine looking lever gun... My wife really liked the looks of it too. Also, there was a Marlin 450 in the rack. I avoided picking it up, cause I could just tell it would have gotten under my skin...and then I'd be tryin' to figure how to work it in the budget. My next larger caliber rifle will be the "Thumper" and I can't let anything else get in the way of that purchase. http://www.hornady.com/story.php?s=543 __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

06-08-2008, 08:59 AM	#17
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	I can't quite justify the "thumper" for myself. I am more of a traditionalist when it comes to rifles, even for sport shooting. Guess I played w/ to many assualt type rifles in the military. I am still partial to my colt .45's... But I still like my rifles to reach out an touch something, usually in a .30 cal variation .

06-08-2008, 09:04 AM	#18
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,071	Oh yea, I understand the "reach out" concept... I was shooting a friend's 7mm RSAUM a couple of days ago, to see how the reloads were working...and that's a reach out and touch something rifle/round. Also, I loaded up some rounds for his 300 WM and they'll have a serious greeting with whatever the meet... I like the Thumper cause it reminds me of my experiences with and fondness for the M16, only with a harder greeting on impact, and I like being able to have several magazines of extra ammo ready to slip in when needed... __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

06-08-2008, 09:19 AM	#19
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	The only use for magazines these days are for the colts and the M1 carbine. A damn fun piece to shoot. For that matter, so is Garand.

06-12-2008, 06:15 PM	#20
RetSFmed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7	Just found out some info on the 1895 CB. I called Marlin today; they checked the SN# and the CB rifle in question was actually a full size CB - 26" barrel manufactured in 2002. Appearently, whomever owned the rifle previously had the barrel and tube shortened. The gunsmith who did the work has done a very good job, I couldn't tell. So now I have a shortened 1895 CB on layaway. I don't suppose the ballistics should be greatly altered - the guide gun is only 18 1/2" and a standard 1895 is 22". Any comments or suggestions would greatly be appreciated. By the way, I use factory ammo.