22-250 Deer Round? - Page 3

soonerborn · 05-10-2008, 08:10 AM

Pretty much just like I said. Small entry, rarely an exit but massive internal damage.

The 22-250 isnt ideal, but it is more than adequate for even the larger whitetails up to 100 or so yards.

petemi · 05-11-2008, 07:14 PM

Leave the .22-250 home and and take a DEER rifle. You people really get my ire up. What is this fascination with trying to kill deer with a BB gun. I have .22-250, 7mm-08, .30-30, .308, .30-06, and .45-70, and a bunch of .50 cal. plus muzzle loaders. Why would I want to risk an iffy kill on a deer with a .22???

sbowers5 · 05-11-2008, 07:27 PM

The last post must have an easily upped ire, this is a discussion and opinion forum and the fact that you don't like a certain caliber does not mean that it will not do the job, just that you don't like it for that particular application, it will and has killed many,many deer, and although it is minimal caliber it is deadly with proper shot placement. Lets not be so critical of others until we examine ourselves and our own motovations. Lets keep the forum friendly and infromative,not argumenative. Just my opinion.
steve

sell33 · 05-11-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rem 742 30-06

Anybody use this a deer round with any success? Type of bullets if it worked? My sister is going rifle hunting and we have a 22-250 and we don't want to buy another rifle or we have a ruger mini 14 in 223 so i guess question is what round would be better.

Considering the original post here is from the beginning of last november, just before deer season in most places, I am just wondering how the hunt went? Did your sister use the 22-250?

soonerborn · 05-12-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by petemi

Leave the .22-250 home and and take a DEER rifle. You people really get my ire up. What is this fascination with trying to kill deer with a BB gun. I have .22-250, 7mm-08, .30-30, .308, .30-06, and .45-70, and a bunch of .50 cal. plus muzzle loaders. Why would I want to risk an iffy kill on a deer with a .22???

Thats the whole point. Its not any more "iffy" to use a 22-250 on deer than a 30-30 etc, when you are a good shot and you keep the shot within the bounds of the rifles capabilities. As I stated earlier, I have killed many more deer with a 22-250 than any other round I have used and find it personally to do the job just as well and maybe, just maybe, better. Comparing a 22-250 to a BB gun for sure more ridiculous than actually using it to shoot a deer, thats for sure.

Daniel O'Connel · 05-13-2008, 12:05 AM

Neither!! They are both varmit calibers and in my opinion have no buisness being used on deer sized game. All you have to do is hit a shoulder or rib and you have a wounded animal.

soonerborn · 05-13-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel O'Connel

All you have to do is hit a shoulder or rib and you have a wounded animal.

Simply not true, I know for a fact that if it hits a rib the internal damage is actually more extensive. I havent hit a shoulder, so I cannot personally vouch for that.

telkev · 05-13-2008, 11:21 PM

Hello, I am new on this forum, but I have read many of your threads. For those of you that are intrested about the capabilities of a 22cal. 60 grain nosler partition, take a look at this site www.gunsandhunting.com/Bullethitsbone.html

According to the data that was produced by this test, a 223 with the nosler partition will penetrate through bone and ballistic gel deeper than a 308 with 150 grain bullet. I have both the 22-250 and 223 and although I have not used them for deer hunting, I am confident either would do the job with the partition bullets if you limit your shots to under 200 yards. More game have been taken with bullets with less energy than either of these calibers for over 100 years.

cold queso · 05-14-2008, 01:32 PM

We use 22/250s quite regularly in Wisconsin. Handloads with 60 Noslers. Last year, at a range of about 100 yards, I saw 2 large does dropped in their tracks with the 22/250 Noslers. Both lung hits. The bullet stayed together pretty well into the off lung.

This year, using 30/06 with 150 Core Lokt's, at the identical distance(Same stand and same trail), One buck traveled about 50 yards with a lung shot. One doe was lost due to a bad hit across the brisket.

Every negative comment I've seen here about the 22/250 could be said of the 243, but many so-called experts tout this caliber as a youth/ladies gun. I've seen many deer lost with 243s in the hands of amateurs, and never a deer lost with a 22/250 in the hands of experts.

forgunsandgame · 05-17-2008, 06:12 AM

Recoil isn't usually a problem when hunting. You're all excited at seeing the buck, and not likely to need more then one 30-06 to drop it anyway. Consequently I wouldn't even take recoil into account. No one drops a nice 8 point buck and then says, "Wow, that recoil really hammered me."

soonerborn · 05-27-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by forgunsandgame

Recoil isn't usually a problem when hunting. You're all excited at seeing the buck, and not likely to need more then one 30-06 to drop it anyway. Consequently I wouldn't even take recoil into account. No one drops a nice 8 point buck and then says, "Wow, that recoil really hammered me."

Recoil is a problem anytime you shoot a gun. See, before you ever pull the trigger in a hunting situation you should have 100s of rounds through the gun already at the range. Those learned habits stick with you when you are on the hunt, so if you have too much recoil and its causing you to flinch at the range, you will flinch on the hunt.

Its a simple fact that less recoil equals better accuracy.

forgunsandgame · 05-27-2008, 05:29 PM

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Its a simple fact that less recoil equals better accuracy.

Yeah, sure.....Well ok, I guess if it's a fact then who am I to argue?
Nuff said. bye bye

andrew cochran · 05-27-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by forgunsandgame

Recoil isn't usually a problem when hunting. You're all excited at seeing the buck, and not likely to need more then one 30-06 to drop it anyway. Consequently I wouldn't even take recoil into account. No one drops a nice 8 point buck and then says, "Wow, that recoil really hammered me."

Exactly! I certainly agree with you!

soonerborn · 05-27-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by forgunsandgame

Yeah, sure.....Well ok, I guess if it's a fact then who am I to argue?
Nuff said. bye bye

Nothing I have ever read concerning guns would contradict that.

Here is a quote from an Army test on the very subject

"The higher recoil test weapons had significantly poorer aiming accuracy than the weapon with the lightest recoil, and the aiming error with the high recoil weapons was consistently above the target."

Here is a link to a summary of the test.

The Effects of Recoil on Shooter Performance.

Granted, there are natural born shooters out there that can effectively manage recoil with discipline, skill and practice. The vast majority of people though, recoil is a big factor on accuracy.

sbowers5 · 05-28-2008, 04:49 PM

Sonnerborn those of us who shoot a lot know that what you posted is the absolute truth, other who do not subscribe to this fact are either super tuff or don't know of what they speak. Just my opinion.
steve

andrew cochran · 06-13-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by felix cortinas

Here in Texas it seems that the calibers of choice for poachers are .22 lr or .22 mag. and these guys have been doing it for years, dont know what they get out of it, I couldnt eat that much deer meat as much as I love it.

They are quiter.

Midas · 06-13-2008, 05:59 PM

I agree, the 22-250 will kill deer every day of the week, but Ron Aka will be by to contest this soon enough

ACfixer · 06-13-2008, 07:36 PM

I keep hearing people going back tot he .223 when the OP was about the .22-250 if memory serves. There is quite a bit of difference between the two in velocity and energy. Using the same 55 grain bullet take a look at the difference.
Remington.com - Products - Ammunition - Ballistics

Personally since I own a .30-06 that's what I would bring, but out to as far as 200 yards it looks like a well placed shot with the .22-250 should do the trick. At 200 we still have a speed of 2785 and energy of 947 lbs. The .223 compares nowhere near as favorably.

samuel · 06-13-2008, 07:43 PM

When it comes to someone elses choice of firearms I try to mind my own business.I personally never tried the .22Hornet but have about everything else.The only two deer that got away out of someplace between 200 and 300 were shot with a muzzleloader and 12ga at about 20yds.Both went into the river and evidently sunk.I never had any trouble stopping one with the smaller cal,s.I just hope others will get out and hunt. sam.

ACfixer · 06-13-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

When it comes to someone elses choice of firearms I try to mind my own business.

Something we could probably all do a little better eh?

Good post.

05-10-2008, 08:10 AM	#41
soonerborn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 320	Pretty much just like I said. Small entry, rarely an exit but massive internal damage. The 22-250 isnt ideal, but it is more than adequate for even the larger whitetails up to 100 or so yards. __________________ Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a Bureau!!! Last edited by soonerborn; 05-10-2008 at 08:11 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-11-2008, 07:27 PM	#43
sbowers5 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: sawyer, ok Posts: 539	The last post must have an easily upped ire, this is a discussion and opinion forum and the fact that you don't like a certain caliber does not mean that it will not do the job, just that you don't like it for that particular application, it will and has killed many,many deer, and although it is minimal caliber it is deadly with proper shot placement. Lets not be so critical of others until we examine ourselves and our own motovations. Lets keep the forum friendly and infromative,not argumenative. Just my opinion. steve __________________ For those who never fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.

05-28-2008, 04:49 PM	#55
sbowers5 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: sawyer, ok Posts: 539	Sonnerborn those of us who shoot a lot know that what you posted is the absolute truth, other who do not subscribe to this fact are either super tuff or don't know of what they speak. Just my opinion. steve __________________ For those who never fought for it, freedom has a taste the protected will never know.

06-13-2008, 05:59 PM	#57
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,814 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I agree, the 22-250 will kill deer every day of the week, but Ron Aka will be by to contest this soon enough __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

05-11-2008, 07:14 PM	#42
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 90	Leave the .22-250 home and and take a DEER rifle. You people really get my ire up. What is this fascination with trying to kill deer with a BB gun. I have .22-250, 7mm-08, .30-30, .308, .30-06, and .45-70, and a bunch of .50 cal. plus muzzle loaders. Why would I want to risk an iffy kill on a deer with a .22???

05-13-2008, 12:05 AM	#46
Daniel O'Connel Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2	Neither!! They are both varmit calibers and in my opinion have no buisness being used on deer sized game. All you have to do is hit a shoulder or rib and you have a wounded animal.

05-13-2008, 11:21 PM	#48
telkev Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: SW MS Posts: 244	Hello, I am new on this forum, but I have read many of your threads. For those of you that are intrested about the capabilities of a 22cal. 60 grain nosler partition, take a look at this site www.gunsandhunting.com/Bullethitsbone.html According to the data that was produced by this test, a 223 with the nosler partition will penetrate through bone and ballistic gel deeper than a 308 with 150 grain bullet. I have both the 22-250 and 223 and although I have not used them for deer hunting, I am confident either would do the job with the partition bullets if you limit your shots to under 200 yards. More game have been taken with bullets with less energy than either of these calibers for over 100 years.

05-14-2008, 01:32 PM	#49
cold queso Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 113	We use 22/250s quite regularly in Wisconsin. Handloads with 60 Noslers. Last year, at a range of about 100 yards, I saw 2 large does dropped in their tracks with the 22/250 Noslers. Both lung hits. The bullet stayed together pretty well into the off lung. This year, using 30/06 with 150 Core Lokt's, at the identical distance(Same stand and same trail), One buck traveled about 50 yards with a lung shot. One doe was lost due to a bad hit across the brisket. Every negative comment I've seen here about the 22/250 could be said of the 243, but many so-called experts tout this caliber as a youth/ladies gun. I've seen many deer lost with 243s in the hands of amateurs, and never a deer lost with a 22/250 in the hands of experts.

05-17-2008, 06:12 AM	#50
forgunsandgame Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 21	Recoil isn't usually a problem when hunting. You're all excited at seeing the buck, and not likely to need more then one 30-06 to drop it anyway. Consequently I wouldn't even take recoil into account. No one drops a nice 8 point buck and then says, "Wow, that recoil really hammered me."

06-13-2008, 07:36 PM	#58
ACfixer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Turning base to final -KAPV- Posts: 248	I keep hearing people going back tot he .223 when the OP was about the .22-250 if memory serves. There is quite a bit of difference between the two in velocity and energy. Using the same 55 grain bullet take a look at the difference. Remington.com - Products - Ammunition - Ballistics Personally since I own a .30-06 that's what I would bring, but out to as far as 200 yards it looks like a well placed shot with the .22-250 should do the trick. At 200 we still have a speed of 2785 and energy of 947 lbs. The .223 compares nowhere near as favorably.

06-13-2008, 07:43 PM	#59
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	When it comes to someone elses choice of firearms I try to mind my own business.I personally never tried the .22Hornet but have about everything else.The only two deer that got away out of someplace between 200 and 300 were shot with a muzzleloader and 12ga at about 20yds.Both went into the river and evidently sunk.I never had any trouble stopping one with the smaller cal,s.I just hope others will get out and hunt. sam.