Coyote hunting with 17HMR - Page 5

sell33 · 02-12-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 300 wsm

I own the 17 HMR it is a whonderful round that has many uses... varment hunting is one of them, and in MD where I live yotes are considered varments. If you are comfortable w/ yer' 17 rig tthen use it. I personally use a Winchester Stealth II chambered in 223 WSSM... out to 650-700 yds them yotes are turned into yoteburger

300....

I have a winchester 70 featherlight also in 223 wssm. I won it at an NRA banquet less than a year ago and have shot it maybe 20 times at the range. I live in ohio and there are just way too many people around to take a gun this hot out in the field much, btu i may head west to an aunt's to coyote hunt within a couple months. just wondering what kind of scope set up you would suggest or what u use, i have a 3x9x40 bushnell trophy on it now and its fine at the range i sighted it in at which is only 100 yards.

by the way....i dont know who thinks a yote isn't a varmint but in my opinion they are the worst ones out there...

Magnumsrule · 02-12-2008, 09:17 PM

I have started to come to a bad conclusion. As muchas i like the 17 i think it is failing. The increase in ammo is killing it. Here a box of 50 is running at about $16. 223+22-250 ammo is $20 and you can reload it. Given that the 17 has 50 shells and the ceneterfires are sold in 20s. However at least you can reload them and they reach out farther. I am thinking i should have bought somethin larger....

Lng Rng · 02-13-2008, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Magnumsrule

I have started to come to a bad conclusion. As muchas i like the 17 i think it is failing. The increase in ammo is killing it. Here a box of 50 is running at about $16. 223+22-250 ammo is $20 and you can reload it. Given that the 17 has 50 shells and the ceneterfires are sold in 20s. However at least you can reload them and they reach out farther. I am thinking i should have bought somethin larger....

Here, I can still get HMR ammo for 10 dollars a box of fifty. As far as ammo prices going up on the HMR, ammo prices have gone up on everything. The HM2 sales might be weak, but as far as I can tell, the HMR isn't going anywhere.

just_mtz · 03-26-2008, 09:56 PM

I've got a .17 hmr and a .22-250. Both extremelly accurate and quick rounds. I've kill crows with both guns. The .17 will do the job but they'll fly for a second before going down. With the .22-250 they blow clear in two peices. I got two in one shot last week. I wouldn't trust the .17 on something coyote sized. Good Luck Thought.

samuel · 03-26-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sell33

300....

I have a winchester 70 featherlight also in 223 wssm. I won it at an NRA banquet less than a year ago and have shot it maybe 20 times at the range. I live in ohio and there are just way too many people around to take a gun this hot out in the field much, btu i may head west to an aunt's to coyote hunt within a couple months. just wondering what kind of scope set up you would suggest or what u use, i have a 3x9x40 bushnell trophy on it now and its fine at the range i sighted it in at which is only 100 yards.

by the way....i dont know who thinks a yote isn't a varmint but in my opinion they are the worst ones out there...

That 3x9 will do fine.Use any extra money for ammo and practice. sam.

FISHPOND · 03-26-2008, 11:12 PM

I too, own an HMR. I have shot at three coyotes and recovered three coyotes. I believe as long as you work in side of it's ablities there will be no problems. 80 yards is my longest coyote kill, a straight on chest shot. She is hanging on my gun cabinet. It does not matter the size of the gun, but bullet placement. I called in a dog for a friend shooting a 303 British, he hit the animal to far back and we watched as the dog dragged it's guts over the next two hills.

Savagebolter · 03-29-2008, 08:38 AM

I'm a proud owner of a savage 93 and what a devastating round. If you own one, you should know only to shoot Hornady V-MAX. Those who say it can't be done either don't own/know of the round. I personal have taken a coyote this year, that only because i only saw one.

It just like shooting anything else:
Shot placement!
Now, is there other rounds I would feel happier with shooting yotes with? the answer is yes. But when your out in the field with the 17HMR, you can't say, "oh no, I wish I brought my .223!" This is what you have and what you'll use, BE CONFENDENT! the moment you doubt yourself, you already missed.

Brad Y · 03-29-2008, 08:58 AM

Longest shot for me is 184 paces on a fox- chest shot. It dropped on the spot. Dont have coyotes here, but I know that within 100m on a calm day/night, that I could drop it on the spot. Havent used the 20gr dimple tips that much, mainly on rabbits and they exit horribly. I would consider it more if I was body shooting coyotes in the heart and lungs, but by the sounds of it, the energy just isnt there for this round to kill effectively with body shots. Its a very accurate round with no recoil. We can all hit at least 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with our hummers so there is no reason why we cant put a 17gr vmax between or just behind its eyes.

JMO

Hotled · 03-31-2008, 03:12 PM

Sorry to step in but I'm new here and figures what the heck:P

So what do I think about the 17 HMR and yotes..lets see, I have taken 18 yotes with mine so far without one going more than a few feet.
If you hold your range at 125y and in and are a decent shot (99.999% head shots) it is perfectly fine for them.
Mine is a Savage 17 BVSS with a Super Sniper 10x42, I simply love this combo.
I also use a Bushmaster A3 with that scope and I can't say enough as it has taken hawg,yote,deer.
Just know your limits and the guns limits and anything is possible yet probably not perfect.

Magnumsrule · 04-07-2008, 10:05 PM

Thats what i am saying lol. Good to know someone has done it!

338RemUltraMag · 04-25-2008, 02:00 AM

sell33 I am 300 WSM (couldn't rmember password) the scope i have on it now is a BSA 8x32x40 or 44 not sure but it brings them animals up close used it sucessfully on deer and the barrel wear is nothing like anyone says...

Yote · 05-11-2008, 11:54 PM

Well, the 17 will drop them dogs in there tracks under 100 yards from my experience. At least within 40 yards. I feel like i've fail the task if I can't call them in that close. I have drop one at 300 yrds. I guess what I'm trying to say, is , with an ethical shot, yeah it's plenty.

Another thing I should throw in, on windy days, good luck. You better know your equipment. That little round, will fly all over the place. I still like the round but, as someone who has sniper training, I do know how to comp for the wind.

dakotasniper · 07-09-2008, 04:34 PM

in my opion the .17 hmr is a great gun for anything under a coyote i shoot beaver and yotes all the time and have recovered them all i used to shoot all of them with a .22 LR and the .17 is a hell of a lot better in my view

EviL · 07-09-2008, 08:38 PM

this is probably a dumb question, but i honestly dont know much about these .17 guns. is the 17hmr and the 17fireball the same thing? if not, what is the difference and which is better?

BIGDIX · 07-20-2008, 02:38 PM

17 hmr is a 22 mag necked down to a .17, the 17 fireball is a centerfire cartridge.

samuel · 07-21-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Yote

Well, the 17 will drop them dogs in there tracks under 100 yards from my experience. At least within 40 yards. I feel like i've fail the task if I can't call them in that close. I have drop one at 300 yrds. I guess what I'm trying to say, is , with an ethical shot, yeah it's plenty.

Another thing I should throw in, on windy days, good luck. You better know your equipment. That little round, will fly all over the place. I still like the round but, as someone who has sniper training, I do know how to comp for the wind.

Thats quite a shot,dropping a coyote at 300yds with a .17HMR!!! That must be a world record.Congratulations!!! sam.

twra2b · 07-21-2008, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vikingpreacher

I don't own an hmr but i know a guy who is 72 and still hunts and has been hunting since he was 10 and he shoots coyotes with his hmr all the time but limits his shots to 100 yards. For extended work he uses a 6mm remington.

not to sound rude or anything but you might need to check the caliber of his rifle before he buys ammo bc the caliber hasn't been around for the 62 years you imply it has been..... so maybe its a different caliber or he needs to speak to Hornady about stealing his idea...bc i remember its first introduction around 2000 or 2001 somewhere in there maybe a few years later... now on subject i have a savage with accutrigger and it is the most accurate gun i own. repeatable dime size groups from bags at 100 yards. from pole cat shoting sticks i have had witness to my 237 yard fox kill. no exit no bullet recovered only fragments it started out as a 20gr. hornady XTP 3 fragments weighing total of 9 grains on RCBS electronic scale. also while hunting a power line my father took a coyote at just over 180 yards couldnt get an accurate reading from my rx-II range from 176- 190 to the bottom of the drainage the dog was in. the head shot was very nasty... i wouldn't reccomend a head shot on anything if a mount or pelt with head is desired.. the bullets are too frangible for that... many other yote's and other species have fallen to the 20gr XTP. only one ran over 30 yds. it was a bad shot mostly intestine... the spinning dog allowed my cousin (the camera man) to empty a faital 7mm mag round from his encore. other than that i am vary pleased with the round for varmint. i belive that the performance of a round relies very much on the accuracy of the rifle and the steadyness of the shooter.

forestgleaner · 08-13-2008, 07:19 AM

I think part of the problem is the differant places we all hunt. Here in Pa. A lot of your shots are under 40 yards, and even the 22hornet will do the job if placed properly. I tend to use a shot gun for night nights, mostly get fox and coon, but I am pretty certain that the 17 hmr, would take out either with only a small hole going in. If I hunt in the day light, I carry a 222 rem. that shoots one hole groups with factory ammo. I know the 223 is faster, with more energy when it gets there, but the ground hogs don't know the differance, and out to a hundred yards or so, I don't a coyote would either. I pass on shoots I have doubt in either my ability, the guns, or the ammo, so maybe it has as much to do with "needing" to shoot, as opposed to enjoying the hunt.

Windwalker · 08-13-2008, 08:13 AM

As a hunter I don't want any animal I shoot to get away and die a painful lingering death from a bullet wound. I try to avoid this first by shot placement and second by using bullet large enough to make it a killing shot even if the animal moved as I fired. At least something large enough to leave a good blood trail to follow and dispatch the animal. If the only two weapons I had to hunt yotes with was a .17 HMR or a 45-70 I would grab the 45-70. Just my personal feelings for respect of the animals I hunt.

zigzag · 09-07-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoot-it

Has anyone shot any coyotes with there hmr at 100 yards.What do you think about it. I killed one a few weeks ago with mine..http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_1012.jpg

i used a 20 gr fmj

yea i did it was fun

02-12-2008, 09:17 PM	#82
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 2	I have started to come to a bad conclusion. As muchas i like the 17 i think it is failing. The increase in ammo is killing it. Here a box of 50 is running at about $16. 223+22-250 ammo is $20 and you can reload it. Given that the 17 has 50 shells and the ceneterfires are sold in 20s. However at least you can reload them and they reach out farther. I am thinking i should have bought somethin larger.... __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

03-29-2008, 08:38 AM	#87
Savagebolter Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southeast, Michigan Posts: 21	17 HMR.... sure I'm a proud owner of a savage 93 and what a devastating round. If you own one, you should know only to shoot Hornady V-MAX. Those who say it can't be done either don't own/know of the round. I personal have taken a coyote this year, that only because i only saw one. It just like shooting anything else: Shot placement! Now, is there other rounds I would feel happier with shooting yotes with? the answer is yes. But when your out in the field with the 17HMR, you can't say, "oh no, I wish I brought my .223!" This is what you have and what you'll use, BE CONFENDENT! the moment you doubt yourself, you already missed.

04-07-2008, 10:05 PM	#90
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 593 Blog Entries: 2	Thats what i am saying lol. Good to know someone has done it! __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

05-11-2008, 11:54 PM	#92
Yote Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	Well, the 17 will drop them dogs in there tracks under 100 yards from my experience. At least within 40 yards. I feel like i've fail the task if I can't call them in that close. I have drop one at 300 yrds. I guess what I'm trying to say, is , with an ethical shot, yeah it's plenty. Another thing I should throw in, on windy days, good luck. You better know your equipment. That little round, will fly all over the place. I still like the round but, as someone who has sniper training, I do know how to comp for the wind. Last edited by Yote; 05-11-2008 at 11:59 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-13-2008, 08:13 AM	#99
Windwalker Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 3,579	As a hunter I don't want any animal I shoot to get away and die a painful lingering death from a bullet wound. I try to avoid this first by shot placement and second by using bullet large enough to make it a killing shot even if the animal moved as I fired. At least something large enough to leave a good blood trail to follow and dispatch the animal. If the only two weapons I had to hunt yotes with was a .17 HMR or a 45-70 I would grab the 45-70. Just my personal feelings for respect of the animals I hunt. __________________ America: Love it and protect it or leave it

03-26-2008, 09:56 PM	#84
just_mtz Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1	I've got a .17 hmr and a .22-250. Both extremelly accurate and quick rounds. I've kill crows with both guns. The .17 will do the job but they'll fly for a second before going down. With the .22-250 they blow clear in two peices. I got two in one shot last week. I wouldn't trust the .17 on something coyote sized. Good Luck Thought.

03-26-2008, 11:12 PM	#86
FISHPOND Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 96	I too, own an HMR. I have shot at three coyotes and recovered three coyotes. I believe as long as you work in side of it's ablities there will be no problems. 80 yards is my longest coyote kill, a straight on chest shot. She is hanging on my gun cabinet. It does not matter the size of the gun, but bullet placement. I called in a dog for a friend shooting a 303 British, he hit the animal to far back and we watched as the dog dragged it's guts over the next two hills.

03-29-2008, 08:58 AM	#88
Brad Y Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Australia Posts: 98	Longest shot for me is 184 paces on a fox- chest shot. It dropped on the spot. Dont have coyotes here, but I know that within 100m on a calm day/night, that I could drop it on the spot. Havent used the 20gr dimple tips that much, mainly on rabbits and they exit horribly. I would consider it more if I was body shooting coyotes in the heart and lungs, but by the sounds of it, the energy just isnt there for this round to kill effectively with body shots. Its a very accurate round with no recoil. We can all hit at least 1.5 inch groups at 100 yards with our hummers so there is no reason why we cant put a 17gr vmax between or just behind its eyes. JMO

03-31-2008, 03:12 PM	#89
Hotled Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 37	Sorry to step in but I'm new here and figures what the heck:P So what do I think about the 17 HMR and yotes..lets see, I have taken 18 yotes with mine so far without one going more than a few feet. If you hold your range at 125y and in and are a decent shot (99.999% head shots) it is perfectly fine for them. Mine is a Savage 17 BVSS with a Super Sniper 10x42, I simply love this combo. I also use a Bushmaster A3 with that scope and I can't say enough as it has taken hawg,yote,deer. Just know your limits and the guns limits and anything is possible yet probably not perfect.

04-25-2008, 02:00 AM	#91
338RemUltraMag Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cumberland, MD USA Posts: 199	sell33 I am 300 WSM (couldn't rmember password) the scope i have on it now is a BSA 8x32x40 or 44 not sure but it brings them animals up close used it sucessfully on deer and the barrel wear is nothing like anyone says...

07-09-2008, 04:34 PM	#93
dakotasniper Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1	in my opion the .17 hmr is a great gun for anything under a coyote i shoot beaver and yotes all the time and have recovered them all i used to shoot all of them with a .22 LR and the .17 is a hell of a lot better in my view

07-09-2008, 08:38 PM	#94
EviL Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: In the Boonies Posts: 106	this is probably a dumb question, but i honestly dont know much about these .17 guns. is the 17hmr and the 17fireball the same thing? if not, what is the difference and which is better?

07-20-2008, 02:38 PM	#95
BIGDIX Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: just a stone through from Mt. Hood ntl. fst. Posts: 8	17 hmr is a 22 mag necked down to a .17, the 17 fireball is a centerfire cartridge.

08-13-2008, 07:19 AM	#98
forestgleaner Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 167	I think part of the problem is the differant places we all hunt. Here in Pa. A lot of your shots are under 40 yards, and even the 22hornet will do the job if placed properly. I tend to use a shot gun for night nights, mostly get fox and coon, but I am pretty certain that the 17 hmr, would take out either with only a small hole going in. If I hunt in the day light, I carry a 222 rem. that shoots one hole groups with factory ammo. I know the 223 is faster, with more energy when it gets there, but the ground hogs don't know the differance, and out to a hundred yards or so, I don't a coyote would either. I pass on shoots I have doubt in either my ability, the guns, or the ammo, so maybe it has as much to do with "needing" to shoot, as opposed to enjoying the hunt.