$90 is a steal, even if it's a little rough 'round the edges. Snag it!
While 7.62x25 FMJ certainly has penetration (able to punch through steel & kevlar helmets, and Lvl. II body-armor), it's far too hot for self-defense. The Wolf JHP rounds are a bit better, but they still may punch straight through if clogged with clothing. And don't get me started on the MagSafe cartridges.
The 9mm is definitely a better choice for self-defense, the ammo is cheaper; $10/50rd box of Blazer FMJ, $25/20rd box of Federal 124gr. HydraShok vs. $15-$20 per 50rd box of Winchester FMJ or $20-$25 per 50rd box of Wolf JHP; and there's a huge variety of 9mm Parabellum self-defense cartridges to choose from if you don't want the expensive JHPs. Granted, milsurp 7.62x25 ammo is currently dirt-cheap online, but I've yet to find a local dealer who carries it.
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| I am trying to fix constant jamming after 1 or 2 rounds.Don't know anything about this piece.It is my #1 son's. How can I tell "narrow" mag from wide?I suspect the mag is the culprit..cartridge jams at a 45dg angle. |
Troy2000 has it right.
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| By the way, they come in two configurations. All Tokarevs are manufactured with a 9x25 magazine well. For the 9mm version they use a different barrel; plus some have a spacer in the well and narrower magazines, and others use a full-size magazine with a spacer inside each magazine. Be sure which setup you have, before ordering spare magazines. |
There is another possibility, but I doubt it's a double-stack magazine; IIRC the high-cap mags won't fit into standard 8rd 213 mag wells.... and the 12rd Norinco 213s are fairly rare from what I've learned.
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| Supposedly converting from 9x25 to 9mm Luger is easy. I haven't done it myself, but some people online say they just change out the barrel and use the full-sized mags anyway. Going the other way isn't quite as easy, I've read. One or two places online have said the sear/trigger assembly is modified in the 213's for the 9mm, and you should change it out too if converting from 9mm to 7.62x25. |
I've looked very closely at my 7.62x25 Radom Wz48 and 9mm Norinco 213, and as far as I can tell, they have the exact same sear/trigger assembly. The only differences are the magazine-well spacer and slide.
FYI, another option instead of going to 7.62 is to up the ante to 9x23 Winchester. All that's needed is a 9mm barrel, a slide with the larger 7.62x25 ejection port, a standard 7.62 magazine, and to have the chamber reamed to 9x23Win. In the way of terminal ballistics, that particular cartridge offers nearly as much as a .357 Mag, and the Tokarev has more than enough strength to handle the load.
It's been done by a few guys on the Gunsnet Tokarev forum with no issues, and I plan on doing it with a spare 9mm barrel.
