Varmints

oneastrix · 08-05-2003, 10:30 PM

What does your respective state consider a varmint? Down here in South TX it is a coyote or smaller. Just curious.

dave375hh · 08-06-2003, 11:13 AM

Any list that dosen't include liberals is incomplete......LOL!

I think your coyote down is a fairly good guideline for most states, now that we all have yotes and wolves are protected. It's not that way anymore, but Quebec used to classify Black Bears and wolves as varmints. In '69 & '70 the licence was only $5, what a deal!

pmspinnerb8 · 08-06-2003, 05:09 PM

Dave375hh, you a big fan of the big bores? I've had several and the 375 H&H is one of my favorites.

oneastrix · 08-07-2003, 12:39 AM

.223 seems to cover varmints in South TX, to the best of my knowledge.

dave375hh · 08-07-2003, 09:34 AM

pmspinnerb8,

Yup I am. The "handle" comes from my love for a Belgium Brng Safari in 375H&H that will shoot almost any load into 3/4" @ 100yds. I've been looking at a .450 Marlin just for fun also. Biggest one I ever shot was a 4 bore single shot owned by the former secretary of the single shot rifle assoc..........WOW!! Three ozs of black powder and a 1/4 lb patched ball, good thing the gun weighed 18lbs.

pmspinnerb8 · 08-07-2003, 02:16 PM

I know a .223 can pop any coyote, but the .375 is a lot of fun. I'm a wildcatter and like the Ackley improved calibers. I've got a Rem 700 Safari that started out as a .375 H&H and had it bumped to the old obsolete .375 Wby. I'll get about 150 fps faster loads out of it. I had a fiberglass stock company out of Portland Or called MPI put it in an A-square style reinforced stock. Its got a magnum decelerator pad and a custom muzzle brake. I've shot 30-06's that kick a lot more. I generally can keep it under an inch and a quarter at 100, but it has shot 3/4" on occasion. Whenever someone asks what I I'm gonna kill with it, I answer whatever I want. LOL

dave375hh · 08-08-2003, 09:47 AM

Best laugh I ever had while hunting was just after I got the 375. A buddy and I were walking the RR tracks in the early spring before the weeds covered the ground hog holes. I took the .375 because I hadn't shot anything with it yet, it didn't even have a scope on it yet. I spotted a coon ducking into a hole in a spoil bank and snaped a shot at him. The shot went about a foot high directly above the hole and collapsed the bank into the hole for about three feet of the hole. My buddy and I laughed untill we had tears in our eyes, it looked like a mini mine cave-in. I've been quite fond of Ol' Thumper ever since.

pmspinnerb8 · 08-08-2003, 10:33 AM

My favorite momentt that involves the boom stick was watching my dad one night shoot a jack rabbit over the hood of his friends brand new pick-up truck with his Whitworth H&H. The top half of the rabbit flew about 3 feet in the air and then all you hear is my dad's buddy crying "You burned my hood, you burned my hood!" Sure enough there was a scorch mark on top of it that we had to buff out. It sure is fun varmint hunting with the big toys.

JAMES · 08-08-2003, 11:09 PM

You know, I'm not too clear on the Oklahoma definition of a Varmint. Eccentric liberals, do seem to fit the list, though. Trophy liberals (Clintons) must be tagged and weighed, and fur cannot be sold.

Coyotes are considered "Furbearers", yet they can be taken anytime, year-round, just not with a headlight. No bag limit. Thems the rules....

We have a Crow Season! One month in the fall and most of the winter....no bag limit. Must be our weak economy that drives that one.

Raccoons, Badgers, Opossums.....legal December & January. No bag limit except for Raccoons....limit of 6.

Bobcats.....December through February....bag limit of 20. I doubt if I'll live long enough to even SEE 20 bobcats.

Skunks....all year, no bag limit.

JAMES · 08-08-2003, 11:18 PM

I almost forgot......I was flipping channels on the TV the other night and ran into some sort of documentary where some of my fellow Oklahomans were out hunting Bigfoot.....and one of the guys in the bunch was hauling around a bolt action rifle with what must have been a 20x scope mounted on it....through the woods.....

They claimed to have smelled it, heard it grunt, and had seen distance glimpes of it. Now, would Bigfoot be considered a large varmint or a furbearer? No bag limit necessary, I suppose.

08-05-2003, 10:30 PM	#1
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Varmints What does your respective state consider a varmint? Down here in South TX it is a coyote or smaller. Just curious. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

08-06-2003, 11:13 AM	#2
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	Any list that dosen't include liberals is incomplete......LOL! I think your coyote down is a fairly good guideline for most states, now that we all have yotes and wolves are protected. It's not that way anymore, but Quebec used to classify Black Bears and wolves as varmints. In '69 & '70 the licence was only $5, what a deal! __________________ Dave 375 H&H

08-06-2003, 05:09 PM	#3
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	Dave375hh, you a big fan of the big bores? I've had several and the 375 H&H is one of my favorites. __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

08-07-2003, 12:39 AM	#4
oneastrix Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	.223 seems to cover varmints in South TX, to the best of my knowledge. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

08-07-2003, 09:34 AM	#5
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	pmspinnerb8, Yup I am. The "handle" comes from my love for a Belgium Brng Safari in 375H&H that will shoot almost any load into 3/4" @ 100yds. I've been looking at a .450 Marlin just for fun also. Biggest one I ever shot was a 4 bore single shot owned by the former secretary of the single shot rifle assoc..........WOW!! Three ozs of black powder and a 1/4 lb patched ball, good thing the gun weighed 18lbs. __________________ Dave 375 H&H

08-07-2003, 02:16 PM	#6
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	I know a .223 can pop any coyote, but the .375 is a lot of fun. I'm a wildcatter and like the Ackley improved calibers. I've got a Rem 700 Safari that started out as a .375 H&H and had it bumped to the old obsolete .375 Wby. I'll get about 150 fps faster loads out of it. I had a fiberglass stock company out of Portland Or called MPI put it in an A-square style reinforced stock. Its got a magnum decelerator pad and a custom muzzle brake. I've shot 30-06's that kick a lot more. I generally can keep it under an inch and a quarter at 100, but it has shot 3/4" on occasion. Whenever someone asks what I I'm gonna kill with it, I answer whatever I want. LOL __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

08-08-2003, 09:47 AM	#7
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	Best laugh I ever had while hunting was just after I got the 375. A buddy and I were walking the RR tracks in the early spring before the weeds covered the ground hog holes. I took the .375 because I hadn't shot anything with it yet, it didn't even have a scope on it yet. I spotted a coon ducking into a hole in a spoil bank and snaped a shot at him. The shot went about a foot high directly above the hole and collapsed the bank into the hole for about three feet of the hole. My buddy and I laughed untill we had tears in our eyes, it looked like a mini mine cave-in. I've been quite fond of Ol' Thumper ever since. __________________ Dave 375 H&H

08-08-2003, 10:33 AM	#8
pmspinnerb8 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lonestar State Posts: 286	My favorite momentt that involves the boom stick was watching my dad one night shoot a jack rabbit over the hood of his friends brand new pick-up truck with his Whitworth H&H. The top half of the rabbit flew about 3 feet in the air and then all you hear is my dad's buddy crying "You burned my hood, you burned my hood!" Sure enough there was a scorch mark on top of it that we had to buff out. It sure is fun varmint hunting with the big toys. __________________ Two in the chest and one in the head and even the Green Giant falls down dead.

08-08-2003, 11:09 PM	#9
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	You know, I'm not too clear on the Oklahoma definition of a Varmint. Eccentric liberals, do seem to fit the list, though. Trophy liberals (Clintons) must be tagged and weighed, and fur cannot be sold. Coyotes are considered "Furbearers", yet they can be taken anytime, year-round, just not with a headlight. No bag limit. Thems the rules.... We have a Crow Season! One month in the fall and most of the winter....no bag limit. Must be our weak economy that drives that one. Raccoons, Badgers, Opossums.....legal December & January. No bag limit except for Raccoons....limit of 6. Bobcats.....December through February....bag limit of 20. I doubt if I'll live long enough to even SEE 20 bobcats. Skunks....all year, no bag limit.

08-08-2003, 11:18 PM	#10
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	I almost forgot......I was flipping channels on the TV the other night and ran into some sort of documentary where some of my fellow Oklahomans were out hunting Bigfoot.....and one of the guys in the bunch was hauling around a bolt action rifle with what must have been a 20x scope mounted on it....through the woods..... They claimed to have smelled it, heard it grunt, and had seen distance glimpes of it. Now, would Bigfoot be considered a large varmint or a furbearer? No bag limit necessary, I suppose.