[Hipointshooter]

Does it matter cause they guy on the phone said that they were almost the same thing

[NRAJOE]

No they are not "almost" the same thing....

[NRAJOE]

You got Atlantic firearms website in your signature....why are you acting like you don't know anything about AK's?

Go there....

[NRAJOE]

Once again I will explain the difference:

SAR-1
What is a SAR-1?

A SAR-1 is a post-ban Romanian semi-automatic AKM (aka AK-47) clone. This rifle has a pistol grip and can accept AK-47 Hi-capacity magazines, which are very cheap and plentiful. The end of the barrel has no threads. It uses the standard AK-47 7.62*39 cartridge. The fit and finish of this rifle is average, mainly because of the mismatched wood and some odd metal finishing marks. Most Sar-1s have some form of trigger slap, which can be easily fixed by following The Rifleman's (found in trouble shooting) instructions. Other problems that may be encountered are canted sights. There are 5 US parts and 10 imported parts. Note: The 2001 and 2002 models are of higher quality then the 2000 and 1999 models. The advantages of this rifle are its reliability, cost, very large selection of replacement parts, cheap ammo, and the very cool noise of the original AK-47 round the 7.62*39. If you want a clone true to the original this is it. Overall this is a great starter AK, before 9/11 they went for under $270 don't pay over $360 for one though. Currently AIM Surplus has them for under $300.
Price Limit: $360
Caliber: 7.62x39
Double Stack: YES


WASR Hi-cap
What is a WASR Hi-cap?
A WASR-10 is a post-ban Romanian semi-automatic AKM (aka AK-47) clone. This version of the rifle has a pistol grip and can accept Hi-capacity magazines because the receiver was milled out. The end of the barrel usually has a nut welded over it, but has no threads. It uses the standard AK-47 7.62*39 cartridge. The fit and finish of this rifle is average; this rifle has wood similar to the SAR and some minor machining marks. The glaring disadvantage of this rifle and some machining burrs on the mag-well should be removed with a file because it causes some magazines to fit tightly. Also this rifle lacks the dimples for to keep the Hi-capacity magazines from wobbling side to side, and instead have plates welding inside the receiver, which will cause some problems with drums. This rifle has 10 Imported parts and 5 US parts. The advantages of this rifle are its reliability, cheap ammo, large selection of replacement parts, accepts single and double stack magazines, and is cheaper then the SAR-1. This is a good starter AK and is great if you cannot find a SAR-1, want to save some money, and want an AK that accepts both single and double stack magazines. Don't pay over $320.

Price Limit: $320
Caliber: 7.62*39
Double Stack: YES

[Mandy]

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Get one with the dimples!!!!

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[Hipointshooter]

Thanks for your help NRAJOE

[Hipointshooter]

NRAJOE AIM Surplus only has WASR-10

But SOG has WASR-10 for 289$

P.S. The reason I linked Atlantic Firearms on my sig is I like there selection of guns i thought that other people would like them too

The only place i have seen SAR-1's is Gun Broker

[7mmag6]

Outstanding post joe, by the way what does wasr and sar(semi automatic rifle?) abbreviations stand for, also why the sudden change to wasr from wholesalers?, also what is your opinion of joeken vector arms

[Hipointshooter]

I found a site that sells SAR-1's heres the link

http://www.oldgunsupply.com/Semi-Aut...7c21489ec4f43f

[Hipointshooter]

[Hipointshooter]

[BattleRifleG3]

The sudden change from SAR-1s to WASR-10s is because Century stopped importing the SAR-1s and now WASR-10s, converted from single stack to hi-cap in the US, are the only ones imported.

[SilverRun]

Any ideas on how the AWB sunset will affect AK's? All the liberal laws, import bans and other junk has me confused! Would it be a good idea to wait until after Sept. to buy an AK? Will we have muzzle brakes, bayo lugs and such back on the market? Will other companies (Sagia) start making AK's? ???

[BattleRifleG3]

Imports will be under the same laws as before the expiration. What will be different is what we do with them once they get here. Basically we'll be doing with imports what we're planning to do with the US compliant guns we have - retrofitting them.

Frankly I don't think this is a bad time to buy an AK at all, at lease if you're getting a WASR, Saiga, Chinese, or such. The only kind I'd wait on is an Arsenal, because being assembled here, they may well be putting bayo lugs and threaded muzzles on themselves.

[BattleRifleG3]

I've come to the conclusion that if you want something done right, do it yourself. If there's a way you want your AK, I'd encourage you to look into making one your way, within bounds of course. Many people are building their own AK receivers from flats, others are building with rivets or screws using a parts kit and a factory finished receiver. I myself am developing a design for a milled aluminum receiver that takes a stamped kit. I'll be so full of AKs I won't know what to do with them all...