Searched & Searched & Shearched & ....DEAL!!!

sickwitems · 04-11-2006, 08:12 PM

O.k. I looked at the web sites sugested and didnt realy find anything that is in my price range that I like, Iv been doing reasearch for over a month on AKs. I dont mind that the WASR-10 has a bad reputation...(for what reason, I dont know)...(I WILL PROVE THIS WRONG)...my friend has a surplus WASR and hes shot probly 4000 round through it in the past year...I asked him if it has ever jammed or did any wierd stuff that would piss him off and validate him not wanting to own it...he has nothing but good things to say about it...the only thing that im not too keen on is that I dont get to see and hold the AK before purchase...I asked the lady on the line if i could get one hand picked, she said that its no use doing since they are new in the box...i think i might just call back and tell her that i want it hand picked from their next shipment...i dont want a mag that "Flops like a fish" when put in, otherwise there realy isnt anything else that could be wrong with a NEW RIFLE...mabey canted sights but thats all i can think of...im just stuck on the price, around here the surplus rifles are $399...mind you i got the T-6 AK, 4 piece wood stock, a cool looking compensator from blue ridge, 40 rd SKS mag, plus the transfer fee, and the shipping for UNDER $500...now i dont know about everyone else, but that seems like a DEAL to me...

sickwitems · 04-11-2006, 08:33 PM

I Also Got-bayonet With Sheath And Frog. 2- 30 Rd Mags, Mag Pouch, Sling, Cleaning Kit, Oiler, Manual And Target...deal!!!

Snakebite · 04-16-2006, 11:10 PM

I dont know why the WASR 10 is slammed, I have one and its never once screwed up. I waste my ammo with it before the SKS

FutureMarine · 04-16-2006, 11:19 PM

Does anyone know what WASR stands for, besides NRAjoe's pessemistic

Wanted
A
Serious
Rifle

NRAJOE · 04-16-2006, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureMarine

Does anyone know what WASR stands for, besides NRAjoe's pessemistic
Wanted
A
Serious
Rifle

Wimpy
Azz
Sissy
Rifle?

FutureMarine · 04-17-2006, 12:51 AM

oh common they cant be THAT bad. I guess you hagve high standards with the rifle you have. It'd look really good in a wood stock also

Pred · 04-17-2006, 10:10 AM

The WASR10 gets slammed because it's one of the cheapest, poorly finished AK's you can buy. For a rifle that takes a standard round, is reliable, and has enough accuracy to kill someone, it fits the bill for not alot of money. However, that being said, if your already spending $300+ on a WASR10, why not spend $100 more and get a better looking, higher quality rifle?

NRAJOE · 04-17-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureMarine

oh common they cant be THAT bad. I guess you hagve high standards with the rifle you have. It'd look really good in a wood stock also

I've had 10 AK's...ranging from Chi-com prebans...Chi-com long barrel...MAADI...VEPR K...couple SAR1's...couple WASR10's....WASR's were the crappiest of fit...finish...AND function...the only ones that ever jammed..

Someday I will put wood on my Bulgie milled...

FutureMarine · 04-17-2006, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pred

why not spend $100 more and get a better looking, higher quality rifle?

like a mak 90!!

SilverRun · 04-17-2006, 11:19 PM

If you are adding all that other junk onto it for a $500 total - leave off what you don't really need and get a decent rifle. I had a WASR-10. It never jammed, but it was a piece of junk. The trigger was horrible, accuracy sucked, fit and finish was about the worst I have seen, and I lost my butt when I sold it. Find a nice used milled Bulgarian Arsenal. That is what I did. I might also add that I paid $500 for it (the aresenal).

Agent006 · 04-18-2006, 01:32 AM

Hm... well I can put it this way. If you don't take your shooting too seriously and just want a decent Kalashnikov, I see little wrong with the WASR-10. True, they're not the finest of AK's but looking the world over... when were AK's ever NICE to begin with? Most AK's found on the battlefield are typically well-worn if not even a little rusty, like the one's found floating around the black markets in countless countries. Yet regardless of looks, they tend to work pretty well. I've yet to hear very much about them jamming, though I'm sure it's quite possible for any weapon to jam. If you have a WASR-10 with the mag wobbling, it's probably one of those "cut" models that were originally made to take those cheesy 10 round, single-stack magazines. They machine out the magazine well to take the standard high-capasity mags and try to pass them off as high-capasity rifles. Flip the rifle over and check to see if it looks like it's been cut-out. If done correctly, some of these may actually work but I wouldn't risk it. If the magazine wiggles, it's been cut too wide and will most likely be unreliable.

WASR-10's are worth the price, though. Most I've seen come with the scope mount on the left side of the reciever which I would rather do without and I don't much care for the matte finish but still, as a functional rifle they're fine. They're fine as a "starter" AK in the same way that you might buy a Mosin as an inexpensive but powerful bolt action rifle. It would be silly for me to tell anyone to get a more "serious" rifle when I have a Maadi that I pretty much blow the crap out of everything with, not caring much about accuracy. I'm debating on tinkering with it and trying to get some serious use out of it. The finish is crappy and the stocks are ugly but it's never failed. I thought about sprucing it up a bit, but my money might be better spent on a milled model and to be honest, I don't have any huge need to go and buy yet another AK right now.

For the price's I've been seeing them go for, WASR's are a force to be reconed with. Handguns are a bit pricey and it seems like for what you'd pay for a decent used 9mm, you could get an AK47 with a 30 round magazine? Are you crazy? It's well worth having, even if there are better AK's to be had. AK's are pretty popular and you can always resale them. I have a friend now who wants to buy my Maadi! But I told him he should get a WASR-10 since he'd actually get a better deal and get a new rifle and one that would work for his purposes. He doesn't shoot anyway... unless I'm around.

So other than being a bit bland, I think the Romanian AK is fine. Sure you can spend more money and get a nicer rifle, though. Whatever works for you. Course if you buy the gun cheaper, that's more money for ammo! And of course you'd have much better luck with high-capasity mags in the AK than you would the SKS.

Agent006 · 04-18-2006, 04:57 AM

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/model.htm#wasr10gp

You might want to look this over! I ran across this in one of the other threads sometime back and saved it for reference. Good thing I did! According to this, many if not all of the type mentioned there are indeed the cut-out type. This means that they were made for the single stack and were changed however they lack the dimples in the sides of the reciever that steady the magazine. I'd have to see one in person and make sure the magazine doesn't wobble too much. Some extra play there isn't fatal in a rifle with such loose tollerances as the AK, but it's definately something to watch. The magazine probably couldn't wobble enough to effect feeding very much but still. Definately check one of these rifles over in person before buying. It's a decent deal for the price and they're out there in numbers so shop wisely. You're better off with the SAR-1 however, if you can find one. But for it to be an assault rifle like the legendary Kalashnikov, don't be afraid to spend the extra bucks for a better one IF you can affoard to. Just know that you get what you pay for.

I'll still say the WASR-10 is worth working with, but the improper magazine well is a definate turn-off, from an AK-lover's standpoint. I dislike my Maadi being a post-ban but it could be much worse. All it really needs is a better set of stocks! The finish is crappy but I'll live with it since it is an AK. The chipped paint gives it character, right?

Pred · 04-18-2006, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureMarine

like a mak 90!!

:nod:

Agent006 · 04-18-2006, 10:26 PM

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/prog...ew.asp?CatId=2

There's a few decent deals in there. That high capasity combo package is one of the cheap WASR-10 deals. That Polish under-folder is nice but you they're listed for $549 in the Shotgun News through JKF Inc. FFL item, of course. Even plus the FFL's fee, that's a nice deal if you want an under-folder.

04-11-2006, 08:12 PM	#1
sickwitems Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fargo "A" Posts: 117	Searched & Searched & Shearched & ....DEAL!!! O.k. I looked at the web sites sugested and didnt realy find anything that is in my price range that I like, Iv been doing reasearch for over a month on AKs. I dont mind that the WASR-10 has a bad reputation...(for what reason, I dont know)...(I WILL PROVE THIS WRONG)...my friend has a surplus WASR and hes shot probly 4000 round through it in the past year...I asked him if it has ever jammed or did any wierd stuff that would piss him off and validate him not wanting to own it...he has nothing but good things to say about it...the only thing that im not too keen on is that I dont get to see and hold the AK before purchase...I asked the lady on the line if i could get one hand picked, she said that its no use doing since they are new in the box...i think i might just call back and tell her that i want it hand picked from their next shipment...i dont want a mag that "Flops like a fish" when put in, otherwise there realy isnt anything else that could be wrong with a NEW RIFLE...mabey canted sights but thats all i can think of...im just stuck on the price, around here the surplus rifles are $399...mind you i got the T-6 AK, 4 piece wood stock, a cool looking compensator from blue ridge, 40 rd SKS mag, plus the transfer fee, and the shipping for UNDER $500...now i dont know about everyone else, but that seems like a DEAL to me...

04-11-2006, 08:33 PM	#2
sickwitems Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fargo "A" Posts: 117	I Also Got-bayonet With Sheath And Frog. 2- 30 Rd Mags, Mag Pouch, Sling, Cleaning Kit, Oiler, Manual And Target...deal!!!

04-16-2006, 11:10 PM	#3
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,844	I dont know why the WASR 10 is slammed, I have one and its never once screwed up. I waste my ammo with it before the SKS

04-16-2006, 11:19 PM	#4
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	Does anyone know what WASR stands for, besides NRAjoe's pessemistic Wanted A Serious Rifle

04-17-2006, 12:51 AM	#6
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	oh common they cant be THAT bad. I guess you hagve high standards with the rifle you have. It'd look really good in a wood stock also

04-17-2006, 10:10 AM	#7
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The WASR10 gets slammed because it's one of the cheapest, poorly finished AK's you can buy. For a rifle that takes a standard round, is reliable, and has enough accuracy to kill someone, it fits the bill for not alot of money. However, that being said, if your already spending $300+ on a WASR10, why not spend $100 more and get a better looking, higher quality rifle?

04-17-2006, 11:19 PM	#10
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,666	If you are adding all that other junk onto it for a $500 total - leave off what you don't really need and get a decent rifle. I had a WASR-10. It never jammed, but it was a piece of junk. The trigger was horrible, accuracy sucked, fit and finish was about the worst I have seen, and I lost my butt when I sold it. Find a nice used milled Bulgarian Arsenal. That is what I did. I might also add that I paid $500 for it (the aresenal).

04-18-2006, 01:32 AM	#11
Agent006 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South Carolina Upstate Posts: 179 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 1	Hm... well I can put it this way. If you don't take your shooting too seriously and just want a decent Kalashnikov, I see little wrong with the WASR-10. True, they're not the finest of AK's but looking the world over... when were AK's ever NICE to begin with? Most AK's found on the battlefield are typically well-worn if not even a little rusty, like the one's found floating around the black markets in countless countries. Yet regardless of looks, they tend to work pretty well. I've yet to hear very much about them jamming, though I'm sure it's quite possible for any weapon to jam. If you have a WASR-10 with the mag wobbling, it's probably one of those "cut" models that were originally made to take those cheesy 10 round, single-stack magazines. They machine out the magazine well to take the standard high-capasity mags and try to pass them off as high-capasity rifles. Flip the rifle over and check to see if it looks like it's been cut-out. If done correctly, some of these may actually work but I wouldn't risk it. If the magazine wiggles, it's been cut too wide and will most likely be unreliable. WASR-10's are worth the price, though. Most I've seen come with the scope mount on the left side of the reciever which I would rather do without and I don't much care for the matte finish but still, as a functional rifle they're fine. They're fine as a "starter" AK in the same way that you might buy a Mosin as an inexpensive but powerful bolt action rifle. It would be silly for me to tell anyone to get a more "serious" rifle when I have a Maadi that I pretty much blow the crap out of everything with, not caring much about accuracy. I'm debating on tinkering with it and trying to get some serious use out of it. The finish is crappy and the stocks are ugly but it's never failed. I thought about sprucing it up a bit, but my money might be better spent on a milled model and to be honest, I don't have any huge need to go and buy yet another AK right now. For the price's I've been seeing them go for, WASR's are a force to be reconed with. Handguns are a bit pricey and it seems like for what you'd pay for a decent used 9mm, you could get an AK47 with a 30 round magazine? Are you crazy? It's well worth having, even if there are better AK's to be had. AK's are pretty popular and you can always resale them. I have a friend now who wants to buy my Maadi! But I told him he should get a WASR-10 since he'd actually get a better deal and get a new rifle and one that would work for his purposes. He doesn't shoot anyway... unless I'm around. So other than being a bit bland, I think the Romanian AK is fine. Sure you can spend more money and get a nicer rifle, though. Whatever works for you. Course if you buy the gun cheaper, that's more money for ammo! And of course you'd have much better luck with high-capasity mags in the AK than you would the SKS.

04-18-2006, 04:57 AM	#12
Agent006 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South Carolina Upstate Posts: 179 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 1	http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/model.htm#wasr10gp You might want to look this over! I ran across this in one of the other threads sometime back and saved it for reference. Good thing I did! According to this, many if not all of the type mentioned there are indeed the cut-out type. This means that they were made for the single stack and were changed however they lack the dimples in the sides of the reciever that steady the magazine. I'd have to see one in person and make sure the magazine doesn't wobble too much. Some extra play there isn't fatal in a rifle with such loose tollerances as the AK, but it's definately something to watch. The magazine probably couldn't wobble enough to effect feeding very much but still. Definately check one of these rifles over in person before buying. It's a decent deal for the price and they're out there in numbers so shop wisely. You're better off with the SAR-1 however, if you can find one. But for it to be an assault rifle like the legendary Kalashnikov, don't be afraid to spend the extra bucks for a better one IF you can affoard to. Just know that you get what you pay for. I'll still say the WASR-10 is worth working with, but the improper magazine well is a definate turn-off, from an AK-lover's standpoint. I dislike my Maadi being a post-ban but it could be much worse. All it really needs is a better set of stocks! The finish is crappy but I'll live with it since it is an AK. The chipped paint gives it character, right?

04-18-2006, 10:26 PM	#14
Agent006 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: South Carolina Upstate Posts: 179 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 1	http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/prog...ew.asp?CatId=2 There's a few decent deals in there. That high capasity combo package is one of the cheap WASR-10 deals. That Polish under-folder is nice but you they're listed for $549 in the Shotgun News through JKF Inc. FFL item, of course. Even plus the FFL's fee, that's a nice deal if you want an under-folder.