What is the deal with the AK-74?

Beer Forever · 04-19-2006, 03:26 PM

They look really cool and I see them at decent prices. Are they worth the money? Is ammo hard to find? Is it more effective?

NRAJOE · 04-19-2006, 03:48 PM

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as02-e.htm

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=119936

Pred · 04-19-2006, 03:50 PM

The AK-74 is that odd Russian round right? 5.45x39? It's a faster moving bullet with further range, Wolf is about the only maker of ammo for it(that I've found in about 3 minutes anyways LOL). Cheaper Than Dirt has the ammo, $130-$150 for a 1000 rounds. I do remember reading though that alot of the Russian troops either wanting to return to the 7.62x39 or did return to it, must like our troops are now with the .308. That round just didn't have the stopping power they needed/wanted, I think.

NRAJOE · 04-19-2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as02-e.htm
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=119936

Also:

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/prog...ew.asp?CatId=2

Beer Forever · 04-19-2006, 04:01 PM

I like atlanticfirearms.com. THey know what to stock.

I have seen a decent AK-74 at the store by my house for around the 500 range. It comes with a couple mags that are the cool smoke waffle style. They are different and I am known to get odd stuff. I read that they worked really well in Afghanistan and resulted in many kills. Not like I am going to go around shooting people with it.

Pred · 04-19-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sks forever

Not like I am going to go around shooting people with it.

Then whats the point :smash:

Beer Forever · 04-19-2006, 05:13 PM

Well I am not sure, do you consider Zombies people?

Pred · 04-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Lets not get started on Zombies. Actually I'll send you a PM regarding them, kind of, well, you'll see. I'm just waiting for the day I get to take to the roof. I feel I've gone to far with my PM :nod:

Beer Forever · 04-19-2006, 05:20 PM

Everyday I wake up and think today could be the day. I already have some lawn chairs and a cooler full of beer up there, just in case. One of those little hand-held TVs so I don't miss the The Simpsons.

Pred · 04-19-2006, 05:23 PM

I see you agree with my point of view on zombies huh :nod:

BattleRifleG3 · 04-20-2006, 11:53 AM

The 5.45x39mm round has the advantages of being lower recoil than 223, loses less performance when used in a carbine length barrel (what it was designed for anyway), and using readily available mags that are hard to sell because the ammo isn't so common. The AK-74 is quite accurate compared to the AKM.

Disadvantages are that the ammo is harder to find, more expensive than X39, and is being phased out worldwide.

Beer Forever · 04-20-2006, 05:14 PM

I had a chance to get one today, but I decided not to.

alraicer · 04-20-2006, 06:48 PM

I am about to sell mine, what would be a descent price to sell it at? I see them selling on gunboker for 500+, mine is romanian made if that makes any difference.

If your wondering why would I sell an AK it is because I am going to get a milled AK and cann't get away with having both

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FutureMarine · 04-20-2006, 11:56 PM

what kind of 74 is it. that could make the difference between a lower price and a high one. what did you buy it for? how old is it and how used is it??

BattleRifleG3 · 04-21-2006, 09:06 AM

If it is Romanian, it is likely a SAR-2 which is actually closer in pattern to the AKM than the AK-74. It's like an AKM in 5.54x39mm whereas an AK-103 is like an AK-74 in 7.62x39mm.

If this all made no sense, basically there are a few design differences between the AKM and AK-74 besides just the cartridge.

FutureMarine · 04-22-2006, 11:50 PM

made sense to me. i would like to have an AK103, or an AN-94 or any of the new russian rifles

BattleRifleG3 · 04-24-2006, 12:14 AM

You know that you can't have any of the new Russian rifles, right? Closest you can come is a modification of a Saiga rifle to AK-101,102,103,etc configuration in semi-auto only. The point of the AN-94 is extremely fast double-tap rate.

Beer Forever · 04-24-2006, 03:55 PM

Those Russians sure know how to kill.

Pred · 04-24-2006, 05:30 PM

SKS are you ever going to reply to my PM's :nod:

Beer Forever · 04-24-2006, 05:32 PM

I've been lagging. I can be a slacker at times. In the process of looking for a new job, my current job is boring me.

04-19-2006, 03:26 PM	#1
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	What is the deal with the AK-74? They look really cool and I see them at decent prices. Are they worth the money? Is ammo hard to find? Is it more effective? __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-19-2006, 04:01 PM	#5
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	I like atlanticfirearms.com. THey know what to stock. I have seen a decent AK-74 at the store by my house for around the 500 range. It comes with a couple mags that are the cool smoke waffle style. They are different and I am known to get odd stuff. I read that they worked really well in Afghanistan and resulted in many kills. Not like I am going to go around shooting people with it. __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 04-19-2006 at 04:08 PM.

04-19-2006, 05:13 PM	#7
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Well I am not sure, do you consider Zombies people? __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-19-2006, 05:18 PM	#8
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Lets not get started on Zombies. Actually I'll send you a PM regarding them, kind of, well, you'll see. I'm just waiting for the day I get to take to the roof. I feel I've gone to far with my PM :nod: Last edited by Pred; 04-19-2006 at 05:20 PM.

04-19-2006, 05:20 PM	#9
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Everyday I wake up and think today could be the day. I already have some lawn chairs and a cooler full of beer up there, just in case. One of those little hand-held TVs so I don't miss the The Simpsons. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-19-2006, 03:48 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	http://world.guns.ru/assault/as02-e.htm http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=119936

04-19-2006, 03:50 PM	#3
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	The AK-74 is that odd Russian round right? 5.45x39? It's a faster moving bullet with further range, Wolf is about the only maker of ammo for it(that I've found in about 3 minutes anyways LOL). Cheaper Than Dirt has the ammo, $130-$150 for a 1000 rounds. I do remember reading though that alot of the Russian troops either wanting to return to the 7.62x39 or did return to it, must like our troops are now with the .308. That round just didn't have the stopping power they needed/wanted, I think.

04-19-2006, 05:23 PM	#10
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	I see you agree with my point of view on zombies huh :nod:

04-20-2006, 11:53 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	The 5.45x39mm round has the advantages of being lower recoil than 223, loses less performance when used in a carbine length barrel (what it was designed for anyway), and using readily available mags that are hard to sell because the ammo isn't so common. The AK-74 is quite accurate compared to the AKM. Disadvantages are that the ammo is harder to find, more expensive than X39, and is being phased out worldwide. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

04-20-2006, 05:14 PM	#12
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	I had a chance to get one today, but I decided not to. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-20-2006, 06:48 PM	#13
alraicer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 134	I am about to sell mine, what would be a descent price to sell it at? I see them selling on gunboker for 500+, mine is romanian made if that makes any difference. If your wondering why would I sell an AK it is because I am going to get a milled AK and cann't get away with having both .

04-20-2006, 11:56 PM	#14
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	what kind of 74 is it. that could make the difference between a lower price and a high one. what did you buy it for? how old is it and how used is it??

04-21-2006, 09:06 AM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	If it is Romanian, it is likely a SAR-2 which is actually closer in pattern to the AKM than the AK-74. It's like an AKM in 5.54x39mm whereas an AK-103 is like an AK-74 in 7.62x39mm. If this all made no sense, basically there are a few design differences between the AKM and AK-74 besides just the cartridge. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

04-22-2006, 11:50 PM	#16
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	made sense to me. i would like to have an AK103, or an AN-94 or any of the new russian rifles

04-24-2006, 12:14 AM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	You know that you can't have any of the new Russian rifles, right? Closest you can come is a modification of a Saiga rifle to AK-101,102,103,etc configuration in semi-auto only. The point of the AN-94 is extremely fast double-tap rate. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

04-24-2006, 03:55 PM	#18
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	Those Russians sure know how to kill. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-24-2006, 05:30 PM	#19
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	SKS are you ever going to reply to my PM's :nod:

04-24-2006, 05:32 PM	#20
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	I've been lagging. I can be a slacker at times. In the process of looking for a new job, my current job is boring me. __________________ Paramedic sks forever