SAR-1 red dot adjustment

at4rxj · 04-22-2006, 05:01 PM

So I have a SAR-1 that I bought a dual rail mount for and put a red dot on it. The mount has no adjustments to it what-so-ever. I like that about it, but the red dot is now adjusted all the way up, and at 50 yds I have to aim at the very bottom of the target to hit the bulls. It holds a nice group, just a foot high at 50 yds. Any suggestions? I thought about grinding some, but I don't want to gring on those dove-tail things that clamp on there...

Should I try to bend it up some?

Mooseman684 · 04-22-2006, 07:00 PM

Bend ???? I don't think so ! You really didn't supply enough info as to EXACTLY what you Have...(red Dot ?Laser? Holographic?) so all I can say in guessing is try to shim up the front
to bring the sight point up .
Rich

at4rxj · 04-22-2006, 10:45 PM

It's a red dot... I don't know how else to say it. Not a laser. 30mm tube, 1x magnification, puts a little red dot on the lens that you see when looking through it...

It's 2 different pieces. One is the mount that clamps on the rail, and the other is the red dot that goes on the mount. I'm wondering if I can bend the mount back a little. I need the dot to move up, therefore the back has to go down and the front come up. I'm just trying to figure out if that rail has any way to adjust it, or what I can do...

Mooseman684 · 04-22-2006, 11:18 PM

Hmmm... Is yours mounted on the slide rail on the left side of the receiver? or do you have a different mount system such as a rear cover mount ? Is there a way to shim the front of the scope between it and the mount that attaches to the rail or is it a dovetail mount ? Is the Mount steel or aluminum
from the gun to the Rail ? I know I ask a lot but without pictures it is hard to see from what you are writing since there are lots of different models, mounts,etc.
Rich

at4rxj · 04-23-2006, 12:17 AM

It's the standard side-rail mount on the SAR-1.

This is the mount...
http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/inde...roducts_id=480

Then it's just a standard red-dot on the top of it. It seems pretty solid, I just need it to adjust up more.

Mooseman684 · 04-23-2006, 01:19 AM

Well, If it were mine I would re machine the slide area of that aluminum mount where it mounts to the Rail on the receiver, at a slight angle to bring the dot up since it secures with locking screws to the side rail that may not have been installed true with the barrel ! There may be a way of shimming it in this same area, Hope this gives you some Ideas !
I wouldnt try to bend that machined aircraft aluminum as it may be tempered and it can fracture !
Rich

Beer Forever · 04-23-2006, 09:46 PM

I was thinking about getting one of those.

Uncle Red · 04-23-2006, 10:12 PM

Before you go grinding on the scope mount, you may want to try a different approach first. Loosen up those set screws till you have a little play, and then retighten the forward setscrew first and as tight as you dare. Then the center screw but just a little less tightly than the first screw. And finally the rearmost set screw. Just not as tight as the second setscrew. This should allow the mount to have a slight “nose up” cant. And that might get you back on target.

-UR

04-22-2006, 05:01 PM	#1
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	SAR-1 red dot adjustment So I have a SAR-1 that I bought a dual rail mount for and put a red dot on it. The mount has no adjustments to it what-so-ever. I like that about it, but the red dot is now adjusted all the way up, and at 50 yds I have to aim at the very bottom of the target to hit the bulls. It holds a nice group, just a foot high at 50 yds. Any suggestions? I thought about grinding some, but I don't want to gring on those dove-tail things that clamp on there... Should I try to bend it up some?

04-22-2006, 07:00 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	Bend ???? I don't think so ! You really didn't supply enough info as to EXACTLY what you Have...(red Dot ?Laser? Holographic?) so all I can say in guessing is try to shim up the front to bring the sight point up . Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM! Last edited by Mooseman684; 04-22-2006 at 11:18 PM.

04-22-2006, 11:18 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	Hmmm... Is yours mounted on the slide rail on the left side of the receiver? or do you have a different mount system such as a rear cover mount ? Is there a way to shim the front of the scope between it and the mount that attaches to the rail or is it a dovetail mount ? Is the Mount steel or aluminum from the gun to the Rail ? I know I ask a lot but without pictures it is hard to see from what you are writing since there are lots of different models, mounts,etc. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-23-2006, 01:19 AM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	Well, If it were mine I would re machine the slide area of that aluminum mount where it mounts to the Rail on the receiver, at a slight angle to bring the dot up since it secures with locking screws to the side rail that may not have been installed true with the barrel ! There may be a way of shimming it in this same area, Hope this gives you some Ideas ! I wouldnt try to bend that machined aircraft aluminum as it may be tempered and it can fracture ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-23-2006, 09:46 PM	#7
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I was thinking about getting one of those. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

04-22-2006, 10:45 PM	#3
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	It's a red dot... I don't know how else to say it. Not a laser. 30mm tube, 1x magnification, puts a little red dot on the lens that you see when looking through it... It's 2 different pieces. One is the mount that clamps on the rail, and the other is the red dot that goes on the mount. I'm wondering if I can bend the mount back a little. I need the dot to move up, therefore the back has to go down and the front come up. I'm just trying to figure out if that rail has any way to adjust it, or what I can do...

04-23-2006, 12:17 AM	#5
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	It's the standard side-rail mount on the SAR-1. This is the mount... http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/inde...roducts_id=480 Then it's just a standard red-dot on the top of it. It seems pretty solid, I just need it to adjust up more.

04-23-2006, 10:12 PM	#8
Uncle Red Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Indiana Posts: 547	Before you go grinding on the scope mount, you may want to try a different approach first. Loosen up those set screws till you have a little play, and then retighten the forward setscrew first and as tight as you dare. Then the center screw but just a little less tightly than the first screw. And finally the rearmost set screw. Just not as tight as the second setscrew. This should allow the mount to have a slight “nose up” cant. And that might get you back on target. -UR __________________ "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"--Amendment II, Bill of Rights "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."--Thomas Paine "He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." - Jesus, Luke 22:36