AK47 or kel-tec plr-16?

tec_9 · 05-30-2006, 02:21 PM

i already have my first gun and im looking 4 a second. My choices are now down 2 either a kel-tec plr-16 or an Ak47 both costing around the same price. Thank you ahead of time 4 any suggestions and could someone tell me the pros and cons of both:uzi:

BattleRifleG3 · 05-30-2006, 10:38 PM

AK hands down for almost all uses. Then again it depends on your use. What are your planned uses and what sort of firearm experience do you come from?

at4rxj · 05-30-2006, 10:49 PM

I have an AK but no plr16. I would like a plr16. They seem awesome. I do however love my ak. What are you planning to use it for? Both will be cheap for plinking. I'm thinking a good AK will give you better long range accuracy, but I'm not sure on that. I would say the AK will be more dependable...

BattleRifleG3 · 05-30-2006, 10:54 PM

Give me an AK, a Kel Tec, a fire, a truck, and tree and I'll show you which one is better by which one is still there at the end.

FutureMarine · 05-30-2006, 11:36 PM

gee i wonder

Mooseman684 · 05-31-2006, 03:56 AM

A Good AK...Hands down...I have 4 of them.They work even frozen!
Rich

tec_9 · 05-31-2006, 08:34 AM

thank you guys for all of the info. I was sort of leaning towards the Ak so i think i might get it but im not sure what kind it is yet. Arent just about all Ak47's just as reliable as the most expensive kinds because i think this might be a wasr.

BattleRifleG3 · 05-31-2006, 09:20 AM

They do all tend to be reliable, with a few exceptions, but accuracy and finish will vary.

Mandy · 05-31-2006, 08:06 PM

Try to get the SAR or better, most WASRs are for single stack mags and the mag guides are inferior compared to the SARs or better.
In a stamped receiver try to get the ones with the dimples as a mag guide, this are better and the mag will not wobble as many WASRs do.

WASR can be modified to accept Hi cap mags (double stacks) but for a few dollars more you can get a SAR.

If you're serious about getting a state of the art AK, get an ARSENAL milled receiver, those beauties are very accurate out of the box.

My Milled ARSENAL beats my Stamped MAADI in all aspects.

Pred · 05-31-2006, 11:37 PM

Oh the things I could do with that Kel-tec. Laser up top, forward rails and grip....... :nod:

tec_9 · 06-01-2006, 10:37 AM

well i had a mak 90 already so i went with the kel tec and as a plus my dad got a century arms g3

BattleRifleG3 · 06-01-2006, 11:10 AM

Well, aren't you just rolling! Congrats!

Now pick up a decent bolt action to appreciate accuracy and an action that was the military standard not too incredibly long ago.

Pred · 06-01-2006, 11:17 AM

This thread is worthless without pics.

NRAJOE · 06-01-2006, 04:50 PM

I think y'all know how I voted...

BattleRifleG3 · 06-01-2006, 04:54 PM

Yup... for Hi Points, all the way!

NRAJOE · 06-03-2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

Yup... for Hi Points, all the way!

Them thar is fighting words! Snicker, snicker, guffaw!

tec_9 · 06-04-2006, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pred

This thread is worthless without pics.

well ill try 2 get some pics as soon as i can but i need 2 figure out how to work the digital camera

tec_9 · 06-05-2006, 09:24 PM

how do u post pictures? because it says that i may not post attachments

Russ · 06-28-2007, 06:34 AM

I purchased this weapon back in November after seeing it in a magazine. Since then I've only run about a hundred rounds through it. I had problems with it jamming on my last 20 rounds. Since then I've heard of a lot of people trying to get one. I've purchased the forearm, sling and case, added a pistol scope, forgrip with laser attachment and have purchased a pair of 40 round mags with mag retainers. After tricking it out....I'm just not satisfied. It shoots well, but what I really want is an AR15. Around here Bushmaster seems to be the most popular brand. Academy sports sells the M4 for about 900. I don't plan on hunting game with this weapon. My question arises, in this price range 900-1200 what brands should I consider if not the bushmaster? Also, how important is the A2 and the A3 handle? Also is the shorter barrel best or should I go for the longer barrel.

I'd appreciate a direct reply from anyone out there. rusris10@yahoo.com

SilverRun · 06-28-2007, 09:05 AM

Russ, you can get several good AR's in your price range. As a matter of fact, I cna't think of a bad AR that would cost that much. Bushmasters are good rifles - I have one and am quite pleased. I would recomend the A3 flat-top receiver with a carry handle. If you want to put optics on the rifle you will have lots more options. As to the length, it really depends on what you want to do with it?

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05-30-2006, 02:21 PM	#1
tec_9 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the woods Posts: 8	AK47 or kel-tec plr-16? i already have my first gun and im looking 4 a second. My choices are now down 2 either a kel-tec plr-16 or an Ak47 both costing around the same price. Thank you ahead of time 4 any suggestions and could someone tell me the pros and cons of both:uzi:

05-30-2006, 10:38 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	AK hands down for almost all uses. Then again it depends on your use. What are your planned uses and what sort of firearm experience do you come from? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-30-2006, 10:54 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	Give me an AK, a Kel Tec, a fire, a truck, and tree and I'll show you which one is better by which one is still there at the end. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-30-2006, 11:36 PM	#5
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	gee i wonder __________________ Semper Fi

05-30-2006, 10:49 PM	#3
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,109 Images: 10	I have an AK but no plr16. I would like a plr16. They seem awesome. I do however love my ak. What are you planning to use it for? Both will be cheap for plinking. I'm thinking a good AK will give you better long range accuracy, but I'm not sure on that. I would say the AK will be more dependable...

05-31-2006, 03:56 AM	#6
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,307 Images: 2	A Good AK...Hands down...I have 4 of them.They work even frozen! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-31-2006, 08:34 AM	#7
tec_9 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the woods Posts: 8	thank you guys for all of the info. I was sort of leaning towards the Ak so i think i might get it but im not sure what kind it is yet. Arent just about all Ak47's just as reliable as the most expensive kinds because i think this might be a wasr.

05-31-2006, 09:20 AM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	They do all tend to be reliable, with a few exceptions, but accuracy and finish will vary. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-31-2006, 08:06 PM	#9
Mandy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Juan, Puerto Rico Posts: 1,644	AK hands down Try to get the SAR or better, most WASRs are for single stack mags and the mag guides are inferior compared to the SARs or better. In a stamped receiver try to get the ones with the dimples as a mag guide, this are better and the mag will not wobble as many WASRs do. WASR can be modified to accept Hi cap mags (double stacks) but for a few dollars more you can get a SAR. If you're serious about getting a state of the art AK, get an ARSENAL milled receiver, those beauties are very accurate out of the box. My Milled ARSENAL beats my Stamped MAADI in all aspects. __________________ :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: :assult: Better be judged by 12 than carried by 6. _________________________________ If you gonna die, die with your boots on ! Iron Maiden _________________________________ The deeper you go, the better it feels ! Divers Motto :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi:

05-31-2006, 11:37 PM	#10
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,866 Blog Entries: 3	Oh the things I could do with that Kel-tec. Laser up top, forward rails and grip....... :nod:

06-01-2006, 10:37 AM	#11
tec_9 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the woods Posts: 8	well i had a mak 90 already so i went with the kel tec and as a plus my dad got a century arms g3

06-01-2006, 11:10 AM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	Well, aren't you just rolling! Congrats! Now pick up a decent bolt action to appreciate accuracy and an action that was the military standard not too incredibly long ago. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-01-2006, 11:17 AM	#13
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,866 Blog Entries: 3	This thread is worthless without pics.

06-01-2006, 04:50 PM	#14
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,737 Images: 3	I think y'all know how I voted...

06-01-2006, 04:54 PM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,681 Images: 13	Yup... for Hi Points, all the way! __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-05-2006, 09:24 PM	#18
tec_9 Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: in the woods Posts: 8	how do u post pictures? because it says that i may not post attachments

06-28-2007, 06:34 AM	#19
Russ Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1	I have a PLR 16 but want to trade up to an AR15 I purchased this weapon back in November after seeing it in a magazine. Since then I've only run about a hundred rounds through it. I had problems with it jamming on my last 20 rounds. Since then I've heard of a lot of people trying to get one. I've purchased the forearm, sling and case, added a pistol scope, forgrip with laser attachment and have purchased a pair of 40 round mags with mag retainers. After tricking it out....I'm just not satisfied. It shoots well, but what I really want is an AR15. Around here Bushmaster seems to be the most popular brand. Academy sports sells the M4 for about 900. I don't plan on hunting game with this weapon. My question arises, in this price range 900-1200 what brands should I consider if not the bushmaster? Also, how important is the A2 and the A3 handle? Also is the shorter barrel best or should I go for the longer barrel. I'd appreciate a direct reply from anyone out there. rusris10@yahoo.com

06-28-2007, 09:05 AM	#20
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,685	Russ, you can get several good AR's in your price range. As a matter of fact, I cna't think of a bad AR that would cost that much. Bushmasters are good rifles - I have one and am quite pleased. I would recomend the A3 flat-top receiver with a carry handle. If you want to put optics on the rifle you will have lots more options. As to the length, it really depends on what you want to do with it?