I Need A Red Dot For The Mak!!!

sickwitems · 07-22-2006, 12:29 AM

what should i consider when buying one...i bought a see through reciver cover with 1" scope mount...http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=108
now what does the 1x24 thing mean? im not understanding this jargin... im just a little uneducated. i need a red/green dot that can work in cold weather, those should be nitrogen filled i belive, because im one of those guys that is going to bring his AK deer hunting this year...:nod: i wish you could bumpfire and aim at the same time:full: im actualy going to have to buy some expensive ammo...what is the best by the way? i need some help here guys...help me out here...

so i did some looking in the optics section and found a good websight...midsouthshootersupply.com has some good stuff. Im still wondering how the numerical thing works...i see things like, 1x23, 1x28, 3-9x40mm, 4-16x40mm, ect. I have the 1" rings on my AK, so how do i choose which scope fits on my rings???

Beer Forever · 07-22-2006, 10:44 AM

I'll tell ya now before you spend the money, reciever scope mouts don't work. Get a sout mount with a cheapy red dot.

sickwitems · 07-22-2006, 12:41 PM

ok with that said...ill go with the scout mount. now what kind of red dot should i get...i dont want a cheapy straped to my nice rifles, it will look like a wart, im the kind of guy that gets the best bang for the buck right away. i need something that can withstand harsh Minnesota winters and be operable in the damp weather without fogging up or falling apart. i may as well buy a good scope in the first place. can i swap the scope and mount between my AK and SKS??? someone please tell me what all the 1x23, 1x28, and so on's mean...id like to know before buying...thank you.

Beer Forever · 07-22-2006, 02:28 PM

I said cheapy because the AK is a perfect gun just to keep the iron sights and keep it light. If you were going to scope it out I would put a red dot on, but nothing too much because a red dot scope isn't going to make too much of the difference at a medium range. It is perfect for quick target quisition, like center mass.

I like this one:
Just make sure you get the correct eye relief
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/38983-47410-1455.html

Dale · 07-22-2006, 02:43 PM

There is no eye relief issue with a red dot.

I have a Millidot (two actually) and I like them.

They have 11 dot choices, etc.

However...they ranged from $69-89 new.

You can get cheaper but that's cost and quality as far as I am concerned.

Beer Forever · 07-22-2006, 03:10 PM

Sounds like the way to go, especially for an assualt rifle like the AK

akDom · 07-22-2006, 03:39 PM

check out kalinkaoptics.com.

sickwitems · 07-22-2006, 08:02 PM

are the cheap holographic sights any good???

Iv been looking ove the bushnell trophy red dot scopes...it looks like there are alot of them that look the same but have differnt model numbers...which red/green model do i need to mount it to a scout mount???

billy · 07-23-2006, 07:53 AM

whats wrong with the reciever mounts? dont those 2 screws keep the scope in one place at all?

Beer Forever · 07-23-2006, 10:55 AM

THe reciever top cover doesn't securly fasten to the reciever, that is the factory design. After every shot is shakes around and there is nothing you can do about it. The aftermarket top covers are better at elimating SOME of this play, but certainly not enough to mount a scope and have it retain zero. The scout mounts don't move at all and will hold zero.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-24-2006, 08:34 AM

1x28 means 1x magnification (ie NO magnification) at 28mm diameter. Scopes with magnification might look like 4x30 for fixed power, or 3-9x40 for adjustable power.

ash · 07-24-2006, 12:58 PM

If you're stuck on getting a red dot for it check out the BSA line at www.riflescopes.com

FutureMarine · 07-24-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sks forever

I said cheapy because the AK is a perfect gun just to keep the iron sights and keep it light.

you could say that again!!

billy · 07-27-2006, 09:35 AM

ive got a bushnells 1/23 scout reddot layin around im gonna put on my wasr 10. it cost about $80 i think i got overcharged ,but live and learn.......

07-22-2006, 12:29 AM	#1
sickwitems Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fargo "A" Posts: 117	I Need A Red Dot For The Mak!!! what should i consider when buying one...i bought a see through reciver cover with 1" scope mount...http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=108 now what does the 1x24 thing mean? im not understanding this jargin... im just a little uneducated. i need a red/green dot that can work in cold weather, those should be nitrogen filled i belive, because im one of those guys that is going to bring his AK deer hunting this year...:nod: i wish you could bumpfire and aim at the same time:full: im actualy going to have to buy some expensive ammo...what is the best by the way? i need some help here guys...help me out here... so i did some looking in the optics section and found a good websight...midsouthshootersupply.com has some good stuff. Im still wondering how the numerical thing works...i see things like, 1x23, 1x28, 3-9x40mm, 4-16x40mm, ect. I have the 1" rings on my AK, so how do i choose which scope fits on my rings??? Last edited by sickwitems; 07-22-2006 at 01:57 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-22-2006, 02:43 PM	#5
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	There is no eye relief issue with a red dot. I have a Millidot (two actually) and I like them. They have 11 dot choices, etc. However...they ranged from $69-89 new. You can get cheaper but that's cost and quality as far as I am concerned. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

07-22-2006, 08:02 PM	#8
sickwitems Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fargo "A" Posts: 117	are the cheap holographic sights any good??? Iv been looking ove the bushnell trophy red dot scopes...it looks like there are alot of them that look the same but have differnt model numbers...which red/green model do i need to mount it to a scout mount??? Last edited by sickwitems; 07-22-2006 at 08:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-24-2006, 08:34 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	1x28 means 1x magnification (ie NO magnification) at 28mm diameter. Scopes with magnification might look like 4x30 for fixed power, or 3-9x40 for adjustable power. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-22-2006, 10:44 AM	#2
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I'll tell ya now before you spend the money, reciever scope mouts don't work. Get a sout mount with a cheapy red dot.

07-22-2006, 12:41 PM	#3
sickwitems Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fargo "A" Posts: 117	ok with that said...ill go with the scout mount. now what kind of red dot should i get...i dont want a cheapy straped to my nice rifles, it will look like a wart, im the kind of guy that gets the best bang for the buck right away. i need something that can withstand harsh Minnesota winters and be operable in the damp weather without fogging up or falling apart. i may as well buy a good scope in the first place. can i swap the scope and mount between my AK and SKS??? someone please tell me what all the 1x23, 1x28, and so on's mean...id like to know before buying...thank you.

07-22-2006, 02:28 PM	#4
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I said cheapy because the AK is a perfect gun just to keep the iron sights and keep it light. If you were going to scope it out I would put a red dot on, but nothing too much because a red dot scope isn't going to make too much of the difference at a medium range. It is perfect for quick target quisition, like center mass. I like this one: Just make sure you get the correct eye relief http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/38983-47410-1455.html

07-22-2006, 03:10 PM	#6
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	Sounds like the way to go, especially for an assualt rifle like the AK

07-22-2006, 03:39 PM	#7
akDom Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: vegas Posts: 108	check out kalinkaoptics.com.

07-23-2006, 07:53 AM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,142 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	whats wrong with the reciever mounts? dont those 2 screws keep the scope in one place at all?

07-23-2006, 10:55 AM	#10
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	THe reciever top cover doesn't securly fasten to the reciever, that is the factory design. After every shot is shakes around and there is nothing you can do about it. The aftermarket top covers are better at elimating SOME of this play, but certainly not enough to mount a scope and have it retain zero. The scout mounts don't move at all and will hold zero.

07-24-2006, 12:58 PM	#12
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 934 Images: 3	If you're stuck on getting a red dot for it check out the BSA line at www.riflescopes.com

07-27-2006, 09:35 AM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,142 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	ive got a bushnells 1/23 scout reddot layin around im gonna put on my wasr 10. it cost about $80 i think i got overcharged ,but live and learn.......