recoil buffers

billy · 07-30-2006, 07:19 AM

do these buffers work? they look very easy to install. it seems sensible to put one on my new wasr 10 that i ordered it was only $10 so i got one ,they are both on the way. also should i put one on my yugo sks? it works great after about 5000 rds. just curious. many thanks

Chris · 07-30-2006, 08:23 AM

I would highly recommend the use of buffers.

I use some in a mac I like to take out some, and it greatly helps out there as well. I believe BlackJack Buffers has what you need.

FutureMarine · 07-30-2006, 03:14 PM

SKS's and AK's really dont have much recoil. If you are shooting in automatic i can see where a need may be. On automatic its a lot easier when i shot it with a forward pistol grip and the AMD65.

billy · 07-30-2006, 03:54 PM

i was more concerned about beating up the gun not me

FutureMarine · 07-30-2006, 04:13 PM

beating up the rifle in what way?

billy · 07-30-2006, 09:14 PM

metal on metal, thats what i thought they were for, the violent motion of the bolt ect.

FutureMarine · 07-30-2006, 09:21 PM

these rifles were made to withstand much more than what any of us would do to them. by all means get it if you please, but if it were me i would get something else. these weapons are much more rugged than most people think.

Beer Forever · 07-30-2006, 09:22 PM

I know recoil buffers are popular in ther 1911 and other handguns. As far as an AK or SKS I am sure that they would stop the metal on metal, but that is how those guns were designed and will last a long time.

billy · 07-31-2006, 07:22 AM

oh alright since i already bought it ill put it on ,if i dont like it ill take it off. i have a feelling you guys know more than i do about this .thanks for the continuing advice!!!

NRAJOE · 07-31-2006, 01:56 PM

As someone who has had 10 AK's I can vouch for the buffers:

www.blackjackbuffers.com

ONLY Blackjack buffers....other brands are too hard and can cause jams.

I have a milled Bulgarian AK that I have put 5,000 rds through with no fail to feeds or fail to ejects and the inside of the receiver is as brand new as the day I bought it.

True, they are built to not have one but they are made as a battle rifle to take a beating...and they didn't have to worry, they could always build more.

Why beat your rifle up if not need be?
The harder black buffer I bought from Blackjack still looks practically brand new after 5,000 rds.

You can tell the difference on the cycling after you put the buffer in also....quieter and less felt recoil.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-31-2006, 03:54 PM

I second the recommendation of a BlackJack buffer.

billy · 08-01-2006, 08:37 AM

thats just what i ordered, blackjack the black one. so good. i accidentally ordered the right one! i dont know whats good or not so ill just keep asking you guys . thanks folks!

cartergs · 08-07-2006, 02:00 PM

Had a couple of clients that
Had cyclic problems.
Failure to go full throw on ejection.
Stovepipe?
just a thought!

billy · 08-13-2006, 08:45 AM

well i ended up installing the buffer the green one and it definitely made a difference, i think it was a well spent $10. i like this wasr 10, neat little plinker!!! now i want something in 308 that wont break the bank any thoughts? sorry about veering off subject but i dont know where to put this question. you guys know what youre talking about!!!

FutureMarine · 08-13-2006, 12:05 PM

Maybe a Saiga 308

billy · 08-13-2006, 08:54 PM

Good call fm! i just looked em up and at those prices i could pull it off. i just saw prices from$350 to $1200 so its at least conceivable.

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 04:38 AM

How much of the felt recoil does this take away? the recoil is part of the fun of shooting

the AK doesnt have that much recoil anyway, but since i really like my weapons to last i might consider one now

billy · 08-19-2006, 09:18 AM

it takes the edge off but it really quiets the metal on metal impact , it just seems to smooth the whole operation out, i like it.

FutureMarine · 08-19-2006, 03:36 PM

does it feel like a .22 or something, or does it still have pretty good recoil. i think i should get one. how much was yours, was it a blackjack?

also, how long do AK's last without them? can you replace the damaged parts after they are ruined??

billy · 08-20-2006, 08:15 AM

no it definitely feels like an ak ! it just smoothes it out a little. i got the green blackjack buffer and it was $10. i think it was a good thing to install, this gun would probably last for a long time anyway but what the hey? its just a little rubber thingy that goes on at the base of the return spring, its about 1/4 in. thick, and does a good job . i think you will like it . i put 250 rds. thru my new wasr yesterday in about 30 mins. but had to stop because i was afraid i was gonna melt my hand guard, i looked at the guts of the gun afterwords that recoil buffer does its job, not a scratch.

07-30-2006, 07:19 AM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	recoil buffers do these buffers work? they look very easy to install. it seems sensible to put one on my new wasr 10 that i ordered it was only $10 so i got one ,they are both on the way. also should i put one on my yugo sks? it works great after about 5000 rds. just curious. many thanks

07-30-2006, 08:23 AM	#2
Chris HMFIC Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,834,259 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 20	I would highly recommend the use of buffers. I use some in a mac I like to take out some, and it greatly helps out there as well. I believe BlackJack Buffers has what you need. __________________ Rules \| Contributing Members No one has the right to deny my personal safety Please be descriptive in your thread titles! NRA Life Member

07-30-2006, 03:14 PM	#3
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	SKS's and AK's really dont have much recoil. If you are shooting in automatic i can see where a need may be. On automatic its a lot easier when i shot it with a forward pistol grip and the AMD65. __________________ Semper Fi

07-30-2006, 04:13 PM	#5
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	beating up the rifle in what way? __________________ Semper Fi

07-30-2006, 09:21 PM	#7
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	these rifles were made to withstand much more than what any of us would do to them. by all means get it if you please, but if it were me i would get something else. these weapons are much more rugged than most people think. __________________ Semper Fi

07-30-2006, 03:54 PM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	i was more concerned about beating up the gun not me

07-30-2006, 09:14 PM	#6
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	metal on metal, thats what i thought they were for, the violent motion of the bolt ect.

07-30-2006, 09:22 PM	#8
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	I know recoil buffers are popular in ther 1911 and other handguns. As far as an AK or SKS I am sure that they would stop the metal on metal, but that is how those guns were designed and will last a long time.

07-31-2006, 07:22 AM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	oh alright since i already bought it ill put it on ,if i dont like it ill take it off. i have a feelling you guys know more than i do about this .thanks for the continuing advice!!!

07-31-2006, 01:56 PM	#10
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	As someone who has had 10 AK's I can vouch for the buffers: www.blackjackbuffers.com ONLY Blackjack buffers....other brands are too hard and can cause jams. I have a milled Bulgarian AK that I have put 5,000 rds through with no fail to feeds or fail to ejects and the inside of the receiver is as brand new as the day I bought it. True, they are built to not have one but they are made as a battle rifle to take a beating...and they didn't have to worry, they could always build more. Why beat your rifle up if not need be? The harder black buffer I bought from Blackjack still looks practically brand new after 5,000 rds. You can tell the difference on the cycling after you put the buffer in also....quieter and less felt recoil. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

07-31-2006, 03:54 PM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,455 Images: 13	I second the recommendation of a BlackJack buffer. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-01-2006, 08:37 AM	#12
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	thats just what i ordered, blackjack the black one. so good. i accidentally ordered the right one! i dont know whats good or not so ill just keep asking you guys . thanks folks!

08-07-2006, 02:00 PM	#13
cartergs Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Az. Posts: 39	Had a couple of clients that Had cyclic problems. Failure to go full throw on ejection. Stovepipe? just a thought!

08-13-2006, 08:45 AM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	well i ended up installing the buffer the green one and it definitely made a difference, i think it was a well spent $10. i like this wasr 10, neat little plinker!!! now i want something in 308 that wont break the bank any thoughts? sorry about veering off subject but i dont know where to put this question. you guys know what youre talking about!!!

08-13-2006, 12:05 PM	#15
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	Maybe a Saiga 308 __________________ Semper Fi

08-13-2006, 08:54 PM	#16
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	Good call fm! i just looked em up and at those prices i could pull it off. i just saw prices from$350 to $1200 so its at least conceivable.

08-19-2006, 04:38 AM	#17
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	How much of the felt recoil does this take away? the recoil is part of the fun of shooting the AK doesnt have that much recoil anyway, but since i really like my weapons to last i might consider one now __________________ Semper Fi Last edited by FutureMarine; 08-19-2006 at 04:40 AM.

08-19-2006, 09:18 AM	#18
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	it takes the edge off but it really quiets the metal on metal impact , it just seems to smooth the whole operation out, i like it.

08-19-2006, 03:36 PM	#19
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,952	does it feel like a .22 or something, or does it still have pretty good recoil. i think i should get one. how much was yours, was it a blackjack? also, how long do AK's last without them? can you replace the damaged parts after they are ruined?? __________________ Semper Fi Last edited by FutureMarine; 08-19-2006 at 03:39 PM.

08-20-2006, 08:15 AM	#20
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,263 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	no it definitely feels like an ak ! it just smoothes it out a little. i got the green blackjack buffer and it was $10. i think it was a good thing to install, this gun would probably last for a long time anyway but what the hey? its just a little rubber thingy that goes on at the base of the return spring, its about 1/4 in. thick, and does a good job . i think you will like it . i put 250 rds. thru my new wasr yesterday in about 30 mins. but had to stop because i was afraid i was gonna melt my hand guard, i looked at the guts of the gun afterwords that recoil buffer does its job, not a scratch.