side rail mount

at4rxj · 07-30-2006, 11:33 AM

Who all has had good results from mounting a scope on the side rail? What mount did you use?

I bought a mount and put a red dot on mine, but the red dot doesn't seem to have enough vertical adjustment, like the mount is angled down or something.

Beer Forever · 07-30-2006, 11:47 AM

The only way to scope an AK.
http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=123

FutureMarine · 07-30-2006, 02:16 PM

this is the best way to scope an AK
http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976471035-1.jpg

BattleRifleG3 · 07-31-2006, 02:32 PM

Consider also a scout rail that replaces the rear site.

furdog · 08-09-2006, 06:28 PM

I myself have had this same problem with red dot scopes on side mount scope rail on AK 47s. You have 2 choices!! You can use a laser to estimate how much you need to lower your scope, then mill the top of the mount lower in the front and gradually higher to the back with a file, this will give you a bit more play in setting your scope. If i remember mine right 1/16th of a inch is equal to 4 to 5 feet @ 100 yrds give or take!
The second way, is to use a Tactical Reflex Sight which has a red dot and works the best for sighting on a Ak 47. They usually have a lot of elevation adjustment that works well with side mounts.
The best way to set a scope without fireing a shot is to use "Aim shot Laser Boresighter", they are the best dead on sighter for the money.
If you wont to spend the bucks and get a real nice scope, get the Pro Series ATN 4x30 SWAT scope. It is made for fast tracking targets and or moving targets and has a dozen light settings. It cost about $500 TO $600 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU BUY.

I talked to a guy in optics and he said thry this http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=276579
They are the newest russian military scopes and they work just fine on AK's.

at4rxj · 08-10-2006, 10:22 PM

so where are you saying to file? On the rail on the gun or on the inside of the mount?

FutureMarine · 08-11-2006, 03:18 AM

...but here it is. Is Mikhail Kalashnikov still alive? I saw a special on him on the history channel and he sure seemed like a humble and decent guy.

Nevermind...i did a longer search and found a link for Deadoraliveinfo.com
I figured that would have it. He is only 86. Glad to hear he still is. Great person he is

Big Dog · 08-11-2006, 04:24 AM

I had the same problem when I bought the side mount from a range buddy. The vertical rror wasn't too bad, so I was able to shim inside one ring to move the scope. Works well now.

Though, the AK isn't generally accurate enough, in my opinion, to really warrant using a scope. But it looks cool . . .

furdog · 08-11-2006, 07:57 AM

You file the top of the mount from rear to front to lower the scope. From front to rear to raise the scope . The best way is with a belt sander or grinder be sure you do it as flat as possible.
Be sure not to go to far as your scope mounts wont stay secure.

07-30-2006, 11:33 AM	#1
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,150	side rail mount Who all has had good results from mounting a scope on the side rail? What mount did you use? I bought a mount and put a red dot on mine, but the red dot doesn't seem to have enough vertical adjustment, like the mount is angled down or something.

07-30-2006, 02:16 PM	#3
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	this is the best way to scope an AK http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976471035-1.jpg __________________ Semper Fi

07-31-2006, 02:32 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Retired Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,721	Consider also a scout rail that replaces the rear site. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

08-09-2006, 06:28 PM	#5
furdog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9	I myself have had this same problem with red dot scopes on side mount scope rail on AK 47s. You have 2 choices!! You can use a laser to estimate how much you need to lower your scope, then mill the top of the mount lower in the front and gradually higher to the back with a file, this will give you a bit more play in setting your scope. If i remember mine right 1/16th of a inch is equal to 4 to 5 feet @ 100 yrds give or take! The second way, is to use a Tactical Reflex Sight which has a red dot and works the best for sighting on a Ak 47. They usually have a lot of elevation adjustment that works well with side mounts. The best way to set a scope without fireing a shot is to use "Aim shot Laser Boresighter", they are the best dead on sighter for the money. If you wont to spend the bucks and get a real nice scope, get the Pro Series ATN 4x30 SWAT scope. It is made for fast tracking targets and or moving targets and has a dozen light settings. It cost about $500 TO $600 DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU BUY. I talked to a guy in optics and he said thry this http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=276579 They are the newest russian military scopes and they work just fine on AK's. Last edited by furdog; 08-09-2006 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

08-11-2006, 03:18 AM	#7
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	I didnt think i needed to make a new thread about this... ...but here it is. Is Mikhail Kalashnikov still alive? I saw a special on him on the history channel and he sure seemed like a humble and decent guy. Nevermind...i did a longer search and found a link for Deadoraliveinfo.com I figured that would have it. He is only 86. Glad to hear he still is. Great person he is __________________ Semper Fi Last edited by FutureMarine; 08-11-2006 at 03:26 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

07-30-2006, 11:47 AM	#2
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,813	The only way to scope an AK. http://www.centerfiresystems.com/ind...ROD&ProdID=123

08-10-2006, 10:22 PM	#6
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,150	so where are you saying to file? On the rail on the gun or on the inside of the mount?

08-11-2006, 04:24 AM	#8
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 14,110	I had the same problem when I bought the side mount from a range buddy. The vertical rror wasn't too bad, so I was able to shim inside one ring to move the scope. Works well now. Though, the AK isn't generally accurate enough, in my opinion, to really warrant using a scope. But it looks cool . . . __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

08-11-2006, 07:57 AM	#9
furdog Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 9	You file the top of the mount from rear to front to lower the scope. From front to rear to raise the scope . The best way is with a belt sander or grinder be sure you do it as flat as possible. Be sure not to go to far as your scope mounts wont stay secure.