saiga 308

billy · 11-09-2006, 11:17 PM

now im thinking about purchasing a 308 saiga. im wondering how much accuracy i would gain buy going with a longer barrel. this gun will just be used for going to the range as i dont hunt anymore. i don t need a high cap mag,but would like a pistol grip setup.the gun stores where i live have ridiculous prices so i dont support them.where would be a good place to contact?i would like a bipod also. any advice? thanks again everyone!

BattleRifleG3 · 11-28-2006, 04:00 PM

I prefer the 22" barrel. Many people have incredible accuracy with them using open sites. If you want to use a scope use a scout type mount, as the receiver flexes too much to be a good mounting point.

There are now High cap mags available as well as the original Factory 8 rounders.

The conversion to a pistol grip setup is straightforward, and lands you with a better trigger if you do the standard conversion.

forum.saiga-12.com has loads of info on this conversion. Some guy called called BattleRifleG3 has developed a line of customizeable wooden furniture for the Saiga rifles and shotguns. There are options out there for different handguards too, but if you like the factory handguard a buttstock and P-grip can be made to match pretty closely.

Beer Forever · 11-28-2006, 04:12 PM

The next rilfe I get is going to be the .308 SAIGA wit the 22''. What capacity are the new mags?

BattleRifleG3 · 11-28-2006, 04:51 PM

20rd. I think that's a good size for 308.

billy · 11-28-2006, 08:35 PM

thanks brg3 do you make a pistol grip rear stock combo?im a little afraid to start drillin anda grindin on a new gun i dont care if it does only cost $300

BattleRifleG3 · 11-29-2006, 03:49 PM

I don't make a combo for two reasons, the first of which is that I don't believe a p-grip is a good combination with the factory trigger. The other is that I've agreed with another fellow who has developed such a buttstock to send integrated buttstock requests his way and he'll hook me and a customer up with matching wood for a handguard for a stock.

The conversion is really much much simpler than you could possibly imagine, and you net yourself a better balance and a better trigger. Don't be afraid, just be informed, ie read up on it well and ask questions when you have them. This conversion is very forgiving of inexperience, all it requires is care and patience. I clocked my third conversion at 2hrs.

billy · 11-29-2006, 07:21 PM

hmmm, maybe i shouldnt be such a fraidy cat then....once i actually have a saiga in my possesion, i would like to contact this fella.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-30-2006, 04:16 PM

The idea is to learn everything you can before you take a tool to the gun, and from then on the only surprise will be how easy it is. Until then, the factory configuration isn't a bad one at all. Might as well step from that to the one you really want, without taking a baby step to a lesser configuration that will end up costing you a bit.

billy · 12-02-2006, 08:11 AM

words of wisdom indeed! thanks friend.

at4rxj · 12-03-2006, 08:03 PM

BRG3, where do you recommend getting one of these from? Any good sites online, or you think gun show?

Thanks.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-04-2006, 10:38 AM

They come where they come. Whatever you're comfortable paying for a 1.5 MOA or better full power 308 capable excellently reliable rifle.

7mmag6 · 12-04-2006, 11:51 AM

billy · 12-04-2006, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7mmag6

I have saige 308 22 incher its an awesome rifle and very accurate

thats what i wanna hear!

billy · 12-07-2006, 07:30 PM

well i just ordered a 22in bbl. 308 saiga synth stock! i want to get the ak scope. and a bipod. my question is does the front sling swivel accomidate a bipod? i had a windfall of $ so im doin it .

jgillaspy · 12-07-2006, 10:33 PM

It is not a QD or Quick Detach like a Harris would use. You can probably replace it w/ a QD post, though.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-08-2006, 01:03 PM

The Saiga stock retainer screw is threaded 10-32, same as most sling swivels. If you get one threaded all the way down (or thread one yourself) you shoudl have a great arrangement.

I could do one up for you if you wouldn't mind spending a few $$.

Beer Forever · 12-08-2006, 04:58 PM

BRG3 you are always trying to get money from us! Just kidding, but you can't have my power of aturney.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-08-2006, 05:32 PM

Recently I did an order for a fellow and screwed his sling swivel into a metal insert. Only problem was the sling swivel was too long and wasn't threaded far enough back. Exactly the problem you'd run into using one on a stock Saiga handguard. I ended up going out and buying a threading die set in order to complete it expediently and have it for future use. You can do it to, I just figured I'd offer since I just did the exact same thing.

billy · 12-08-2006, 06:39 PM

i should have it about thurs. HOT DIGGETY!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7mmag6

I have saige 308 22 incher its an awesome rifle and very accurate

what kind of accuracy are you getting out of it? i have about 5 more days till i get mine. yippie!i want to scope mine also,and im wondering if putting a target scope on it is a good idea.the sniper scopes are cool and im sure they work for what they are designed for but from what i understand at 300 m.they are for hitting a 1m target. im looking for bullseyes at whatever extreme range this rifle is capable of. i am going with the low profile reciever side mount and it seems a varmint/target scope would be a good idea. any suggestions? thanks so much everyone!

p.s. BRG3 you seem like a smart guy i keep getting good advice from you . thanks

billy · 12-09-2006, 09:13 PM

brg3, i may just get in touch with you once i get a look see as to what this front sling swivel deal is

11-09-2006, 11:17 PM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	saiga 308 now im thinking about purchasing a 308 saiga. im wondering how much accuracy i would gain buy going with a longer barrel. this gun will just be used for going to the range as i dont hunt anymore. i don t need a high cap mag,but would like a pistol grip setup.the gun stores where i live have ridiculous prices so i dont support them.where would be a good place to contact?i would like a bipod also. any advice? thanks again everyone!

11-28-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	I prefer the 22" barrel. Many people have incredible accuracy with them using open sites. If you want to use a scope use a scout type mount, as the receiver flexes too much to be a good mounting point. There are now High cap mags available as well as the original Factory 8 rounders. The conversion to a pistol grip setup is straightforward, and lands you with a better trigger if you do the standard conversion. forum.saiga-12.com has loads of info on this conversion. Some guy called called BattleRifleG3 has developed a line of customizeable wooden furniture for the Saiga rifles and shotguns. There are options out there for different handguards too, but if you like the factory handguard a buttstock and P-grip can be made to match pretty closely. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-28-2006, 04:51 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	20rd. I think that's a good size for 308. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-29-2006, 03:49 PM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	I don't make a combo for two reasons, the first of which is that I don't believe a p-grip is a good combination with the factory trigger. The other is that I've agreed with another fellow who has developed such a buttstock to send integrated buttstock requests his way and he'll hook me and a customer up with matching wood for a handguard for a stock. The conversion is really much much simpler than you could possibly imagine, and you net yourself a better balance and a better trigger. Don't be afraid, just be informed, ie read up on it well and ask questions when you have them. This conversion is very forgiving of inexperience, all it requires is care and patience. I clocked my third conversion at 2hrs. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-30-2006, 04:16 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	The idea is to learn everything you can before you take a tool to the gun, and from then on the only surprise will be how easy it is. Until then, the factory configuration isn't a bad one at all. Might as well step from that to the one you really want, without taking a baby step to a lesser configuration that will end up costing you a bit. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-28-2006, 04:12 PM	#3
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	The next rilfe I get is going to be the .308 SAIGA wit the 22''. What capacity are the new mags?

11-28-2006, 08:35 PM	#5
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	thanks brg3 do you make a pistol grip rear stock combo?im a little afraid to start drillin anda grindin on a new gun i dont care if it does only cost $300

11-29-2006, 07:21 PM	#7
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	hmmm, maybe i shouldnt be such a fraidy cat then....once i actually have a saiga in my possesion, i would like to contact this fella.

12-02-2006, 08:11 AM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	words of wisdom indeed! thanks friend.

12-03-2006, 08:03 PM	#10
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 872 Images: 10	BRG3, where do you recommend getting one of these from? Any good sites online, or you think gun show? Thanks.

12-04-2006, 10:38 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	They come where they come. Whatever you're comfortable paying for a 1.5 MOA or better full power 308 capable excellently reliable rifle. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-04-2006, 11:51 AM	#12
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	1 __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine Last edited by 7mmag6; 01-09-2007 at 01:03 AM.

12-07-2006, 07:30 PM	#14
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	well i just ordered a 22in bbl. 308 saiga synth stock! i want to get the ak scope. and a bipod. my question is does the front sling swivel accomidate a bipod? i had a windfall of $ so im doin it . Last edited by billy; 12-07-2006 at 09:04 PM.

12-07-2006, 10:33 PM	#15
jgillaspy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 9	It is not a QD or Quick Detach like a Harris would use. You can probably replace it w/ a QD post, though.

12-08-2006, 01:03 PM	#16
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	The Saiga stock retainer screw is threaded 10-32, same as most sling swivels. If you get one threaded all the way down (or thread one yourself) you shoudl have a great arrangement. I could do one up for you if you wouldn't mind spending a few $$. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-08-2006, 04:58 PM	#17
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,718	BRG3 you are always trying to get money from us! Just kidding, but you can't have my power of aturney.

12-08-2006, 05:32 PM	#18
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	Recently I did an order for a fellow and screwed his sling swivel into a metal insert. Only problem was the sling swivel was too long and wasn't threaded far enough back. Exactly the problem you'd run into using one on a stock Saiga handguard. I ended up going out and buying a threading die set in order to complete it expediently and have it for future use. You can do it to, I just figured I'd offer since I just did the exact same thing. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-09-2006, 09:13 PM	#20
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 14,261 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 154	brg3, i may just get in touch with you once i get a look see as to what this front sling swivel deal is Last edited by billy; 12-13-2006 at 09:57 PM.