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Old 09-23-2007, 01:40 AM   #1
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best ak-47 variant???

i hear the vepr are preety good as are the yugo's whats your opinion?>
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:43 AM   #2
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Best by objective standards - my opinion is the SLR101, Bulgarian milled AK imported as single stack but professionally restored to military config using US parts. Why? Excellent uniform machining of receiver and all other critically mating components (bolt, barrel, carrier). Side rail scope mount on milled receiver is actually worth using, while those on stamped receivers may or may not be firm enough.

IF you don't want to use a scope, I'd say a Saiga in the chambering on your choice and adapted to use military mags (if in 223 or X39) and in pistol grip config.

Neither will be cheap. The Bulgarian is worth it if it's worth it to you. The converted Saiga is worth it in the most objective sense.

The VEPRs and Yugos are worth it IF you want a heavy gage AK. The Yugos are built on US receivers and some with US barrels using ex military kits, most of them refurbished from an unattractive condition. The VEPRs are all Russian but with US compliance parts. Some people have criticized their QC, but the VEPRs are known for being very accurate.
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Old 09-25-2007, 05:08 PM   #3
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wow I had no idea that my YUGO is an Ak varient. Whats makes a real AK?
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Old 09-25-2007, 08:21 PM   #4
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Yugo AKs are the only Yugos that are AK variants. Yugo SKSs, Mausers, and cars are not AK variants. If the Yugo cars were AK variants, they'd have a much better reputation.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:10 PM   #5
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Yugo AKs are the only Yugos that are AK variants. Yugo SKSs, Mausers, and cars are not AK variants. If the Yugo cars were AK variants, they'd have a much better reputation.
Ok, again stupid question what makes an Ak a true AK and is there any differance in performance?
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:12 PM   #6
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That's a good question. My answer is that there are things that are AKs and things that aren't. SKSs and Dragunovs aren't AKs, they're SKSs and Dragunovs. FPK/PSL/Romak-IIIs that are marked Dragunovs are actually AKs.

Ok, to get a little more technical, there's a light machinegun designed from the AK called the RPK. Some AK variants are actually based on this. Some parts interchange. This includes VEPRs, FPKs, and some Yugos.
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:11 PM   #7
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I understand thanks, G3 you are a wealth of information. Thanks for your posts on my cetme too.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:36 PM   #8
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I was wondering the same thing meatloaf and thanks for answering it BattleRifleG3 and I see what you mean now by there is no Romanian Dragonov, they are just AKs with Dragonov style stocks.
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Old 12-15-2007, 10:39 AM   #10
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my ak from iraq is awesome! and mostly all other's are too .
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:24 AM   #11
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I like the Chinese AKs!
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i like all AKS
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Old 12-15-2007, 02:05 PM   #13
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I would answer that a true AK is one that was built on Kalashnokov's design in a Soviet factory.

Anything else is a variant.

It woud be like..."What is a genuine Colt 1911"?......a Colt 1911!

Anything else is a variant.
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i hear the vepr are preety good as are the yugo's whats your opinion?>
Yep, both of these are good. I currently have a couple of the Yugo's that I really like. The Bulgarian and Chinese are also good.
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I would answer that a true AK is one that was built on Kalashnokov's design in a Soviet factory.
Anything else is a variant.
Weren't all Kalashnikov AKs full auto?
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Old 12-15-2007, 09:28 PM   #17
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Weren't all Kalashnikov AKs full auto?
My understanding is the Soviet Klashnikov AKs made back in the 1947s was selective fire with, of course, the option of full auto.
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:08 AM   #18
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True AK's are built in Russian factories and are selective fire. By Russian made it also means they were built to V. Kalashinkovs design, but also built in factories that were Soviet Bloc nations. Some of those nations made modifications to orginal design to fit their own needs and spec's, but used the same basic designs. Take the example of Maddi made in Egypt. They were made in their factories but on tooling and use of tech personel supplied by Russia. Your variants will come from factories that use their designs but are built for import and are semi-auto only.
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:37 AM   #19
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My .02 The Arsenal Bulgarians are definitely top of the line. I have several Century Yugos and they are great, much better than the Romanian crap that Century kicks out. That being said, a Romy kit built on a quality receiver by someone who knows what they are doing (not me) is a fine weapon. All ak's are great, even a lowly WASR can be a fun weapon. Bottom line, as long as it's built correctly, you pretty much can't go wrong with an AK.
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Old 12-25-2007, 09:53 PM   #20
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IMHO.....IF it fits the classic silhouette of an AK made in a country aligned with the commies......it's an AK. A "shorty" Krinkov is an "AK variant." As an M4 is a variant of an M16.

A Velmet and Galil ain't.......cause, it ain't a commie made weapon. Though, one could say it's a variant.
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