My Idiot Status is Confirmed, Can Someone Help me Fix This?!

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 05:28 PM

Ok, I am officially an idiot. I somehow got my magazine stuck in my AK. I went to put the magazine back in place and put it in wrong. The back snapped into place with the front not even in the mag well and it can't be pushed in. Now the mag release won't release the back end of the magazine. Can someone help me shake it loose?

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 05:40 PM

Press the mag release forward as far as possible, then pull back and forth firmly on the mag. Watch your fingers. If this does not work post a picture so we can see the jam up.

ArkansasHunter · 01-22-2008, 05:41 PM

LOL !!!

Momoney567 · 01-22-2008, 05:46 PM

Hahahahaha!
Thats bad.
May god have mercy on you.
I hope you get it out.

just_a_car · 01-22-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetmedog

Press the mag release forward as far as possible, then pull back and forth firmly on the mag. Watch your fingers. If this does not work post a picture so we can see the jam up.

+1. That should work if the front end of the magazine isn't even in the magwell. Though, I can't see how it would even be stuck in there if the front end isn't engaging the mag well at all.

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 05:52 PM

If by some way you got the front catch of the mag under the catch of the front trunion and the receiver, then you have to swear at it more. Im sure more ridicule is to follow for all of us born with one of these up our ass's that knows it all. My spelling sucks

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetmedog

Press the mag release forward as far as possible, then pull back and forth firmly on the mag. Watch your fingers. If this does not work post a picture so we can see the jam up.

The mag release won't go forward or back. I'm not real sure how to photograph it.

Let's see if this helps. Note: the gun is field stripped and the magazine had its guts removed because it was driving me crazy while I tried to fix that.

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 05:58 PM

Grab the bottom of the mag and pull back hard

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetmedog

If by some way you got the front catch of the mag under the catch of the front trunion and the receiver, then you have to swear at it more. Im sure more ridicule is to follow for all of us born with one of these up our ass's that knows it all. My spelling sucks

I believe that is exactly what I did, actually. And if it is a matter of using elbow grease, I've used all the elbow grease I can muster. LOL! As for the ridicule, oh well, what else is new? I've come to expect nothing less of people.

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 06:02 PM

Pull the top of the mag toward the mag release getting the mag catch as far into the latch as possible and pull down as stated before. This might give you enough room to get it out. Even if it comes to it get something to tap the mag back. Hit the mag at the front on the lip, by the receiver. tap it back towards the mag catch. Use a small chunk of wood so as not to mar up the gun or mag. Again at the top of the mag, not the bottom

Two and Ahalf Men is almost over. Is the mag out yet, my shows are on

just_a_car · 01-22-2008, 06:54 PM

Ah, I think I know what's going on now... The feed lips are what are catching on the front of the mag well as the mag catch is caught on the latch in the back.

I'm thinking some "Russian" love on the TOP front of the magazine (e.g. going in from the top of the receiver) to pop the feed lips down far enough to clear the mag well might get it out.

Now, if you look down there and there is way too much feed lip material to just "pop" out, it may be necessary to first try (I know you said you did, but use a hammer or some such) to get that mag latch forward while giving it top-pressure.

Rave · 01-22-2008, 09:18 PM

That looks like a wasr with no dimples,like the one I had.
The mag tended to jam if not put in just right.
With practice it got easier,but you had to be careful to get the front catch engaged then carefully rock it in.
I now have a wasr with the dimples,no problems,can't mess it up.

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 09:24 PM

It won't budge.

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 10:05 PM

Will the mag latch wiggle at all? Knock it forward if you can. It looks like it is biting into the mag catch stem

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cetmedog

Will the mag latch wiggle at all? Knock it forward if you can. It looks like it is biting into the mag catch stem

It won't move at all

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 10:45 PM

All I can say is the mag catch is bitten into the mag stem on the mag, and is wedged in the front of the receiver well. Knock the mag catch forward with a mallet, that is all I can tell you from here. You get that catch forward it will let the mag go. A new mag catch and pin are cheap but I think it will handle the hit. Just keep tapping the mag latch forward till it lets go. Good thing the aliens are not invading while the AKs down

GlockMeister · 01-22-2008, 10:58 PM

Bummer Sucklead. I feel for ya' bud. Just remember that what ever you use, make sure it is either plastic or rubber. No metal, that will only result in damaging other parts and the finish if you miss.
If you have to replace the mag. release lever, because there was no other way to get the mag. free, instead of beating it out or prying it out, I'd rather see you just try and remove the rivet/pin and maybe you can just replace that piece and still use your mag. release lever and spring? Just another option to consider.

If it were me and my goof, and if I couldn't get it out by force, that quite honestly would be the route I'd take. But, that's me my friend. Good luck.

G-Meister

SuckLead · 01-22-2008, 11:00 PM

I'll be dragging it in to work tomorrow to let someone better at this give it a go. I've been at this for a hours and my hands are all cut up now. I'll let you all know what happens.

cetmedog · 01-22-2008, 11:02 PM

Ok you had time to swear and hammer, what is the result here. Its almost time to sleep on it till tomorrow.

Mooseman684 · 01-22-2008, 11:05 PM

Real Simple...Hit the front bottom of mag with a rubber mallet or chunk of wood..towards the rear...I can see the front lip so just drive the bottom back towards the butt and it will come loose !!!
Rich

01-22-2008, 05:28 PM	#1
SuckLead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 600	My Idiot Status is Confirmed, Can Someone Help me Fix This?! Ok, I am officially an idiot. I somehow got my magazine stuck in my AK. I went to put the magazine back in place and put it in wrong. The back snapped into place with the front not even in the mag well and it can't be pushed in. Now the mag release won't release the back end of the magazine. Can someone help me shake it loose? __________________ "Ruin a liberal's day; recite historical fact." - found on a bumper sticker

01-22-2008, 05:46 PM	#4
Momoney567 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern tube Louisiana Posts: 208	Hahahahaha! Thats bad. May god have mercy on you. I hope you get it out. __________________ Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword never found automatic weapons.

01-22-2008, 06:02 PM	#10
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	Pull the top of the mag toward the mag release getting the mag catch as far into the latch as possible and pull down as stated before. This might give you enough room to get it out. Even if it comes to it get something to tap the mag back. Hit the mag at the front on the lip, by the receiver. tap it back towards the mag catch. Use a small chunk of wood so as not to mar up the gun or mag. Again at the top of the mag, not the bottom Two and Ahalf Men is almost over. Is the mag out yet, my shows are on Last edited by cetmedog; 01-22-2008 at 06:22 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-22-2008, 06:54 PM	#11
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,521	Ah, I think I know what's going on now... The feed lips are what are catching on the front of the mag well as the mag catch is caught on the latch in the back. I'm thinking some "Russian" love on the TOP front of the magazine (e.g. going in from the top of the receiver) to pop the feed lips down far enough to clear the mag well might get it out. Now, if you look down there and there is way too much feed lip material to just "pop" out, it may be necessary to first try (I know you said you did, but use a hammer or some such) to get that mag latch forward while giving it top-pressure. __________________

01-22-2008, 09:18 PM	#12
Rave Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 6,873	That looks like a wasr with no dimples,like the one I had. The mag tended to jam if not put in just right. With practice it got easier,but you had to be careful to get the front catch engaged then carefully rock it in. I now have a wasr with the dimples,no problems,can't mess it up. __________________ USAF '62-'66 .

01-22-2008, 05:40 PM	#2
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	Press the mag release forward as far as possible, then pull back and forth firmly on the mag. Watch your fingers. If this does not work post a picture so we can see the jam up.

01-22-2008, 05:41 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	LOL !!!

01-22-2008, 05:52 PM	#6
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	If by some way you got the front catch of the mag under the catch of the front trunion and the receiver, then you have to swear at it more. Im sure more ridicule is to follow for all of us born with one of these up our ass's that knows it all. My spelling sucks

01-22-2008, 05:58 PM	#8
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	Grab the bottom of the mag and pull back hard

01-22-2008, 09:24 PM	#13
SuckLead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 600	It won't budge. __________________ "Ruin a liberal's day; recite historical fact." - found on a bumper sticker

01-22-2008, 10:05 PM	#14
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	Will the mag latch wiggle at all? Knock it forward if you can. It looks like it is biting into the mag catch stem Last edited by cetmedog; 01-22-2008 at 10:07 PM.

01-22-2008, 10:45 PM	#16
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	All I can say is the mag catch is bitten into the mag stem on the mag, and is wedged in the front of the receiver well. Knock the mag catch forward with a mallet, that is all I can tell you from here. You get that catch forward it will let the mag go. A new mag catch and pin are cheap but I think it will handle the hit. Just keep tapping the mag latch forward till it lets go. Good thing the aliens are not invading while the AKs down Last edited by cetmedog; 01-22-2008 at 10:50 PM.

01-22-2008, 10:58 PM	#17
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,483	Bummer Sucklead. I feel for ya' bud. Just remember that what ever you use, make sure it is either plastic or rubber. No metal, that will only result in damaging other parts and the finish if you miss. If you have to replace the mag. release lever, because there was no other way to get the mag. free, instead of beating it out or prying it out, I'd rather see you just try and remove the rivet/pin and maybe you can just replace that piece and still use your mag. release lever and spring? Just another option to consider. If it were me and my goof, and if I couldn't get it out by force, that quite honestly would be the route I'd take. But, that's me my friend. Good luck. G-Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

01-22-2008, 11:00 PM	#18
SuckLead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 600	I'll be dragging it in to work tomorrow to let someone better at this give it a go. I've been at this for a hours and my hands are all cut up now. I'll let you all know what happens. __________________ "Ruin a liberal's day; recite historical fact." - found on a bumper sticker

01-22-2008, 11:02 PM	#19
cetmedog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 2 weeks from everywhere Posts: 129	Ok you had time to swear and hammer, what is the result here. Its almost time to sleep on it till tomorrow.

01-22-2008, 11:05 PM	#20
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	Real Simple...Hit the front bottom of mag with a rubber mallet or chunk of wood..towards the rear...I can see the front lip so just drive the bottom back towards the butt and it will come loose !!! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!