Izhmash Arsenal AK-47 for $350

tony · 08-09-2002, 02:30 PM

In the latest flyer from SOG they have an AK-47 advertised as a "Izhmash Arsenal AK-47" for $350. They boast synthetic stock and 14" barrel with a permanently attached muzzle break that brings the length out to the legal requirements.

Has anybody had any experience with these rifles. I have heard a lot of bad things about Southern Ohio Gun and am a little leery of them. However, this rifle sounds like a really great deal for the price. They are supposedly straight out of Russia with the triggers groups swapped out to convert them to semi-auto and brand new.

NRAJOE · 08-09-2002, 06:51 PM

I've never had any problems with SOG. I bought a Ballester Molina .45 from them that had one bad grip on it. I e mailed them asking for another grip for the bad one and they sent me 2 new ones with 4 new screws in a sealed package. Outstanding!

jarcp · 08-10-2002, 10:22 AM

Izhmash = Saiga
for 350.00 ir better be chambered in .308 come with an extra mag, scope, and scope hardware. Otherwise if it's just the rifle if it's in 7.62x39 it should run about 200.00 - 250.00 in .308 280.00-320.00.

tony · 08-10-2002, 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by jarcp
Izhmash = Saiga
for 350.00 ir better be chambered in .308 come with an extra mag, scope, and scope hardware. Otherwise if it's just the rifle if it's in 7.62x39 it should run about 200.00 - 250.00 in .308 280.00-320.00.

Even if it has pistol grip type stock installed?

BattleRifleG3 · 08-10-2002, 05:59 PM

Calling those rifles the "New Izhmash AKs" is misleading. These are imported as Saiga rifles, which are based on the AK but heavily sporterized, as in ten round mag and unable to take hi-caps, in compliance with import bans. I believe it's Hesse Arms, which has a sketchy reputation and offers no warranty at all, who takes these rifles and:
1.) Moves the trigger group forward into the usual position for an AK
2.) Adapts the receiver to accept pistol grip and buttstock
3.) Modifies the magazine well in the receiver to accept double stack AK mags
4.) Replaces enough parts with US made parts to comply with the necessary laws.

So a great deal of workmanship involved in these rifles is NOT done by the guys who build them. I think they look nice, but would much rather have a less expensive Romanian SAR-1 or WASR-10. WASR-10s have a similar mag well conversion, but it's done by Century, who isn't perfect, but is WAY above Hesse.

Or buy a Saiga with the ten round mag. They're great guns for the price.

BattleRifleG3 · 05-27-2004, 03:17 AM

OR you could convert one to P-grip yourself, like I did

In restrospect, that wasn't a bad price, since Hesse didn't build it from the base.

NRAJOE · 05-27-2004, 03:18 AM

And you never got a SAR-1....

08-09-2002, 02:30 PM	#1
tony Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10	Izhmash Arsenal AK-47 for $350 In the latest flyer from SOG they have an AK-47 advertised as a "Izhmash Arsenal AK-47" for $350. They boast synthetic stock and 14" barrel with a permanently attached muzzle break that brings the length out to the legal requirements. Has anybody had any experience with these rifles. I have heard a lot of bad things about Southern Ohio Gun and am a little leery of them. However, this rifle sounds like a really great deal for the price. They are supposedly straight out of Russia with the triggers groups swapped out to convert them to semi-auto and brand new.

08-09-2002, 06:51 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	I've never had any problems with SOG. I bought a Ballester Molina .45 from them that had one bad grip on it. I e mailed them asking for another grip for the bad one and they sent me 2 new ones with 4 new screws in a sealed package. Outstanding! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

08-10-2002, 10:22 AM	#3
jarcp Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKC, OK Posts: 253	Izhmash = Saiga for 350.00 ir better be chambered in .308 come with an extra mag, scope, and scope hardware. Otherwise if it's just the rifle if it's in 7.62x39 it should run about 200.00 - 250.00 in .308 280.00-320.00. __________________ Reed's Ammunition & Research 1209 SW 129th St. Oklahoma City, OK 73170 www.reedsammo.com info@reedsammo.com

08-10-2002, 05:59 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	Calling those rifles the "New Izhmash AKs" is misleading. These are imported as Saiga rifles, which are based on the AK but heavily sporterized, as in ten round mag and unable to take hi-caps, in compliance with import bans. I believe it's Hesse Arms, which has a sketchy reputation and offers no warranty at all, who takes these rifles and: 1.) Moves the trigger group forward into the usual position for an AK 2.) Adapts the receiver to accept pistol grip and buttstock 3.) Modifies the magazine well in the receiver to accept double stack AK mags 4.) Replaces enough parts with US made parts to comply with the necessary laws. So a great deal of workmanship involved in these rifles is NOT done by the guys who build them. I think they look nice, but would much rather have a less expensive Romanian SAR-1 or WASR-10. WASR-10s have a similar mag well conversion, but it's done by Century, who isn't perfect, but is WAY above Hesse. Or buy a Saiga with the ten round mag. They're great guns for the price. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-27-2004, 03:17 AM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,454 Images: 13	OR you could convert one to P-grip yourself, like I did In restrospect, that wasn't a bad price, since Hesse didn't build it from the base. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-27-2004, 03:18 AM	#7
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,252 Images: 3	And you never got a SAR-1.... __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany