Trading the ole PSL

cr107 · 09-10-2009, 10:45 PM

Trading my PSL for a Egyptian Hakim in 8mm! Plus 1000 rounds of ammo. So, i will have a brand new 8x42 POSP scope and 2 PSL mags for sale for anyone interested. Ill post this in a thread in the marketplace when the deal finalizes.

Mooseman684 · 09-10-2009, 10:51 PM

Why would you do That ???

Sprout47 · 09-10-2009, 10:56 PM

Grats!

Though I think you should still have a PSL lol!

Check this info out from Wiki-know-nothing, seems some issues with some ammo types you should be aware of, if you didn't already know this stuff;

"Use caution when firing the Ljungman and Hakim rifles as the burn rate of the powder has a dramatic effect on the operation of the rifle. There have been reported cases of catastrophic failures of both these rifles when fired with incorrect ammunition. Even the Swedish m/41 ammunition was required to be lightly oiled by Swedish troops prior to loading as the burn rate of the powder is too slow and the oiling of the cartridge body facilities extraction.
The main dynamic involves the pressure curve and the timing of the pressure curve as it relates to the location of the gas port in the barrel. While the Hakim has a gas port adjustment the Ljungman does not. As the bullet passes the gas port the gas pressure is channeled back to the bolt carrier to unlock the bolt. With a powder that is too slow a burn rate the bolt carrier opens violently premature and at an extremely excessive pressure. This causes the extractor to tear the rim off the cartridge case exposing the action to the dumping of very high pressures which typically exits the action downward into the magazine well, blowing the magazine completely out of the rifle and often destroying the magazine and stock in the process. Close attention must be paid regarding the use of correct ammunition in these two rifles."

cr107 · 09-10-2009, 11:00 PM

Long story, me and this PSL do not like each other. Ive put a few different optics on it, and cant get it sighted for crap. I told the guy this and he said its not a problem, as he wont be using optics, just good ole irons.

Hakims are going for about 5-600$ that i have seen, out of the few that i have seen.

Im getting the Hakim and 1000 rounds of 8mm, for my PSL and just the stuff it came with.

Edit for sprouts post:
The Yugo ammoIim getting is supposed to be good for these rifles. Ive look at a lot of webpages over the last few days.

Ill have another PSL someday, just not the one i have. LOL

Sprout47 · 09-10-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cr107

Long story, me and this PSL do not like each other. Ive put a few different optics on it, and cant get it sighted for crap. I told the guy this and he said its not a problem, as he wont be using optics, just good ole irons.

Hakims are going for about 5-600$ that i have seen, out of the few that i have seen.

Im getting the Hakim and 1000 rounds of 8mm, for my PSL and just the stuff it came with.

Edit for sprouts post:
The Yugo ammoIim getting is supposed to be good for these rifles. Ive look at a lot of webpages over the last few days.

Ill have another PSL someday, just not the one i have. LOL

Ya I have a feeling that your side rail was tacked on off kilter.

Sprout47 · 09-10-2009, 11:04 PM

CR check your PM's btw

cr107 · 09-10-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprout47

CR check your PM's btw

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cr107 · 09-10-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprout47

Ya I have a feeling that your side rail was tacked on off kilter.

me too, but the guy said it wasnt a problem, so im happy.

cr107 · 09-10-2009, 11:24 PM

Here's the Hakim

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just_a_car · 09-11-2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cr107

Here's the Hakim

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Ooo, one of those! Always liked the funky look to 'em.

PSLMAN · 09-11-2009, 05:40 AM

Sorry to hear that it's come to this buthopefully you'll have better luck with the Hakim.

Iron_Colonel · 09-12-2009, 10:18 PM

Looks like a nice rifle right there. Good pics, looking for a range report now

cr107 · 09-12-2009, 10:33 PM

Don't have it yet. Ships out Monday, will hopefully have it by Thursday or Friday next week. Then a range report and full review of this "alien" looking rifle, and I'll have to say, that's one of the meanest muzzle breaks Ive seen.

PSLMAN · 09-12-2009, 11:30 PM

Walk...er shoot like an Egyptian.

cr107 · 09-14-2009, 11:08 PM

ugh, now it might not happen. bunch of FFL BS!! mine wont ship without a copy of his dealers FFL, and his dealer wont fax a copy to mine, has to be a signed in ink copy.

What does it matter?!?!?! If he gets it and faxes it to me, its the same f***in thing!

sorry guys just venting. dont make much sense.

and if not the PSL will go up for sale somewhere I guess, got to think about it.

PSLMAN · 09-15-2009, 05:36 AM

If the deal falls through why not have your PSL scope rail checked out by a gun smith? If it's off kilter maybe he could correct it, just a thought.

cr107 · 09-15-2009, 10:34 AM

thats what im going to do probably when i get more $$.

cr107 · 09-15-2009, 10:36 PM

well, the trades still on for now. ill know for sure when its in my hands! ill post in the Hakim thread when it gets here.

PSLMAN · 09-16-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cr107

well, the trades still on for now. ill know for sure when its in my hands! ill post in the Hakim thread when it gets here.

Perhaps you could post a pic of the Hakim and PSL side by side just for comparison. Then I don't have to go waay over to the Hakim forum to see it. That would require a lot of effort on my part you know, lol.

Sprout47 · 09-16-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PSLMAN

Perhaps you could post a pic of the Hakim and PSL side by side just for comparison. Then I don't have to go waay over to the Hakim forum to see it. That would require a lot of effort on my part you know, lol.

Ya... we might get lost, that would be horrible!

09-10-2009, 10:45 PM	#1
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	Trading the ole PSL Trading my PSL for a Egyptian Hakim in 8mm! Plus 1000 rounds of ammo. So, i will have a brand new 8x42 POSP scope and 2 PSL mags for sale for anyone interested. Ill post this in a thread in the marketplace when the deal finalizes. __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me

09-10-2009, 10:51 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,303 Images: 2	Why would you do That ??? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

09-10-2009, 10:56 PM	#3
Sprout47 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,356	Grats! Though I think you should still have a PSL lol! Check this info out from Wiki-know-nothing, seems some issues with some ammo types you should be aware of, if you didn't already know this stuff; "Use caution when firing the Ljungman and Hakim rifles as the burn rate of the powder has a dramatic effect on the operation of the rifle. There have been reported cases of catastrophic failures of both these rifles when fired with incorrect ammunition. Even the Swedish m/41 ammunition was required to be lightly oiled by Swedish troops prior to loading as the burn rate of the powder is too slow and the oiling of the cartridge body facilities extraction. The main dynamic involves the pressure curve and the timing of the pressure curve as it relates to the location of the gas port in the barrel. While the Hakim has a gas port adjustment the Ljungman does not. As the bullet passes the gas port the gas pressure is channeled back to the bolt carrier to unlock the bolt. With a powder that is too slow a burn rate the bolt carrier opens violently premature and at an extremely excessive pressure. This causes the extractor to tear the rim off the cartridge case exposing the action to the dumping of very high pressures which typically exits the action downward into the magazine well, blowing the magazine completely out of the rifle and often destroying the magazine and stock in the process. Close attention must be paid regarding the use of correct ammunition in these two rifles." __________________ "Nothing is impossible with an AK "

09-10-2009, 11:00 PM	#4
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	Long story, me and this PSL do not like each other. Ive put a few different optics on it, and cant get it sighted for crap. I told the guy this and he said its not a problem, as he wont be using optics, just good ole irons. Hakims are going for about 5-600$ that i have seen, out of the few that i have seen. Im getting the Hakim and 1000 rounds of 8mm, for my PSL and just the stuff it came with. Edit for sprouts post: The Yugo ammoIim getting is supposed to be good for these rifles. Ive look at a lot of webpages over the last few days. Ill have another PSL someday, just not the one i have. LOL __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me Last edited by cr107; 09-10-2009 at 11:02 PM.

09-10-2009, 11:04 PM	#6
Sprout47 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,356	CR check your PM's btw __________________ "Nothing is impossible with an AK "

09-10-2009, 11:24 PM	#9
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	Here's the Hakim IMGP4047-web.jpg IMGP4048-web.jpg IMGP4050-web.jpg IMGP4051-web.jpg __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me

09-11-2009, 05:40 AM	#11
PSLMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rheas Mill, Arkansas. Posts: 2,517 Blog Entries: 2	Sorry to hear that it's come to this buthopefully you'll have better luck with the Hakim. __________________ If you ain't impressed yet just tell me what you want to hear.

09-12-2009, 10:18 PM	#12
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Looks like a nice rifle right there. Good pics, looking for a range report now __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

09-12-2009, 10:33 PM	#13
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	Don't have it yet. Ships out Monday, will hopefully have it by Thursday or Friday next week. Then a range report and full review of this "alien" looking rifle, and I'll have to say, that's one of the meanest muzzle breaks Ive seen. __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me

09-12-2009, 11:30 PM	#14
PSLMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rheas Mill, Arkansas. Posts: 2,517 Blog Entries: 2	Walk...er shoot like an Egyptian. __________________ If you ain't impressed yet just tell me what you want to hear.

09-14-2009, 11:08 PM	#15
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	ugh, now it might not happen. bunch of FFL BS!! mine wont ship without a copy of his dealers FFL, and his dealer wont fax a copy to mine, has to be a signed in ink copy. What does it matter?!?!?! If he gets it and faxes it to me, its the same f**in thing! sorry guys just venting. dont make much sense. and if not the PSL will go up for sale somewhere I guess, got to think about it. __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me Last edited by cr107; 09-14-2009 at 11:11 PM.*

09-15-2009, 05:36 AM	#16
PSLMAN Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Rheas Mill, Arkansas. Posts: 2,517 Blog Entries: 2	If the deal falls through why not have your PSL scope rail checked out by a gun smith? If it's off kilter maybe he could correct it, just a thought. __________________ If you ain't impressed yet just tell me what you want to hear.

09-15-2009, 10:34 AM	#17
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	thats what im going to do probably when i get more $$. __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me

09-15-2009, 10:36 PM	#18
cr107 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Loganville, Ga Posts: 838	well, the trades still on for now. ill know for sure when its in my hands! ill post in the Hakim thread when it gets here. __________________ "Even if you dont see eye to eye, but sure that you can still stand shoulder to shoulder"-Me