Purchased a Saiga 12 from gunbroker

Diatribes · 10-14-2009, 10:12 PM

Winning bidder of brand new saiga 12 19" barrel for $475+ s/h.
NO RESERVE Saiga 12 12ga AK 47 Semi Auto AK47 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com
Ive been wanting one of these bad boys for quite some time now. Will be fun converting another Saiga. The route Im going, its going to cost me roughly $120. Im going for the saigatechusa traditional trigger guard which is $49.
http://saigatechusa.com/

ttwinsupra · 10-14-2009, 10:20 PM

copycat

lol nice choice man these things are so sweet when fully converted i already know every part im gonna put on mine. man i love to customise things. cant wait till chaos comes out with the extended rail that is the sickest rail ive ever seen

Deussne · 10-15-2009, 02:37 PM

They are fun. I got a 20rd drum on mine.

Congrats and good luck with the conversion

Diatribes · 10-15-2009, 04:50 PM

Nice looking Saiga! I dig the hk sights and tromix stock. Nice trigger guard set up too I almost went that route. Im going with the saigatechusa traditional though. also going to use the tapco standard ak stock and a tapco standard pistol grip. Mines going to look like the picture below, but with a saigatech trigger guard instead of reusing the factory trigger guard. Im kind of plain jane with my firearms and like them to look as stock as possible.

Deussne · 10-15-2009, 06:08 PM

Nothing wrong with looking plain I got lots of rifle that would fit in to that description. However HK sights are absolutly wonderfull. I hit about 95% of the clay discs that are being thrown my way. We usually do 2 at the time. And with 20 round drum you hardly have to reload.

Diatribes · 10-15-2009, 06:46 PM

what was the cost of having them installed, may I ask?

Diatribes · 10-15-2009, 10:09 PM

I just finished purchasing items for my conversion. Including two 10 round promag magazines and a case for this firearm I spent about $240. I bought an E-Tac standard "Twisterpuc" which replaces the standard gas plug thing at the end of the gas piston. I needed another compliance part and this seemed like an upgrade instead of just a part replacement. Anyone have any experience with these?

Ten Man · 10-16-2009, 01:36 AM

Congrats on your Saiga 12. I got one a couple months ago. I also got extra 12 round magazines for it. I LOVE it. I consider it the ULTIMATE Zombie destroyer. LOL

Diatribes · 10-16-2009, 03:42 PM

My Saiga in en route and will be here by wednesday yay! I doubt ill have all my conversion parts, the trigger guard required me to send the guy a money order blah. Il scavenging my tapco stock and pistol grip off my gp1975 to put on my saiga, and im going all wood on my gp. Centerfire Systems, Inc. - Your Home For Ammo, Firearms, Magazines, and Gun Accessories has wood stock sets for $12 that have everything except the top half of the handguard, and I bought a top half off GB for $9. probably going to refinish the wood in a "russian red" cus I also bought the trigger set-up from them for my conversion which includes a very nice cherry red pistol grip, along with the FCG and a gas piston, all for $10.

I have to say Im at a loss as to what type of varnish to use on gun stocks that wont be dissolved by gun cleaning solvents. This is rather embarassing due to me being in the commercial painting business for quite a few years. Ive never had to deal with a product meeting this requirement. Im thinking maybe 2 part 100% solids epoxy? Any feedback regarding this would be most welcome. Dont make me start a thread about this, ILL DO IT I FREAKIN SWEAR ILL DO IT! hehe kiddin. Theres probably a thread regarding this, I shouldnt be lazy and look.

Ten Man · 10-17-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Diatribes

......Any feedback regarding this would be most welcome. Dont make me start a thread about this, ILL DO IT I FREAKIN SWEAR ILL DO IT! hehe kiddin. Theres probably a thread regarding this, I shouldnt be lazy and look.

How about a simple TUNG OIL finish? It works fine on other guns.

Diatribes · 10-24-2009, 11:57 AM

Did the conversion on my Saiga 12 last night.

ttwinsupra · 10-24-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Diatribes

Did the conversion on my Saiga 12 last night.

nice how long did it take you? did you have to modify the tapco trigger group? or did you use something like tromix trigger

Diatribes · 10-24-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ttwinsupra

nice how long did it take you? did you have to modify the tapco trigger group? or did you use something like tromix trigger

Thanks! It took me about 6 hours.Would have been less but I had to grind the trigger hook to clear the bolt carrier. I ground it a little much I think. If you pull the bolt carrier back slow when the hammer is up, the hammer catches and doesnt slide back to cock. If you do it relatively quick it doesnt catch at all so Im thinking when it fires it will work fine. I also tend to pull the bolt carrier back fast anyways. Ill probably grab another trigger and redo it regardless. I used a Romanian trigger and the stock disconnector and hammer. I can get another trigger from copes for $4.99 . Theres a gun show next weekend Ill probably find one there. You might want to go this route yourself. The disconnector is stepped on the back side to stop the safety from going up into the dust cover. I found this out the hard way after putting everything together with a Romanian disconnector and the safety lever went up too far. Putting the original disconnector back in solved that problem. The hammer is also shorter on one side to clear the BHO. I highly recommend using the BHO as you cant insert a loaded mag with the bolt closed. You will have fun getting everything together with the BHO. That was my biggest obstacle to overcome. Because of how the rails are inside the receiver theres like no room to maneuver the parts. Took me about an hour of fiddling with it to get them all situated right. I put the hammer in first then the trigger group. Put the pins in about halfway then put the retaining wire in. Then the safety lever followed by the BHO . Put the pin holding the hammer all the way thru then used fishing line to pull the BHO spring down while I pushed the trigger pin through. After that used needle nose pliers to get the retaining wire on the pins. Huge headache but its finished. The .223 was far easier to convert. Also, dont cut the line off the BHO spring til youre sure its all finished...

Deussne · 10-24-2009, 03:53 PM

ugh guys. have you ever heard of 922r? The only reason I am saying this is I am trying to keep you out of jail.

Diatribes · 10-24-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deussne

ugh guys. have you ever heard of 922r? The only reason I am saying this is I am trying to keep you out of jail.

I appreciate your concern. Im using ProMag magazines (3 USA Parts) a GoGun Twisterpuc gas piston cylinder (1 USA Part) a Tapco stock (1 USA Part) and a Tapco pistol grip (1 USA Part). voila 922r compliant. You dont need a USA made FCG to make your gun compliant and Id rather use military grade FCG parts. In my opinion the USA made FCG are over priced. I can get a FCG from centerfire for $10 thats superior to the USA made FCG that sells for $25-$50

Madcat455 · 10-25-2009, 12:19 AM

Looking good diatribes. The Saiga only needs 4 parts for compliance.. you got that covered.

I don't know what all the hype about trigger assy's is... I pull the trigger, it goes boom.. what more is there??? LOL.

I don't have any issues with the trigger on my .410. I didn't do a full conversion on it tho, cause I like the ability to put it back to factory if I want. Tapco pistol grip stock worked fine for me.

Enjoy it.. my next gun after the .300 weatherby is going to be a Saiga 12.

ttwinsupra · 10-25-2009, 12:32 AM

man i do have to say im diggin the clean simple look, its a perfect example of the s12, very nice makes me think twice about all the mods im planing on doing....but ile still prob end up moding the heck out of it just to make it a Bad A

i cant wait till i get the time to do the conv. you got me kinda ify on the trigger install ile prob just end up getting the tromix drop in ile have to go US group cuz im useing non us grip & stock piston for now

Great Basin Ben · 10-26-2009, 01:02 PM

Is your shoulder destroyed and completely purple yet????

Diatribes · 10-27-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Basin Ben

Is your shoulder destroyed and completely purple yet????

I only hip shoot and bump fire. Seriously though, my shoulders are fine after 30+ years of shooting. I appreciate your concern though

Great Basin Ben · 10-27-2009, 06:55 PM

I realize that after 30 years of shooting normal firearms, that you're probably fine, what I meant was After ONE DAY of shooting the Saiga 12 was your shoulder destroyed and purpled??? My ONLY complaint about these guns is their recoil!!! Blackjack buffer along with Shock absorbing collapseable stock can definately help, but a day of shooting one of these is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME than shooting my Ithica model 37 for a whole day. A WHOLE LOT MORE FUN, but a whole lot more sore the next day too...

10-14-2009, 10:12 PM	#1
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	Purchased a Saiga 12 from gunbroker Winning bidder of brand new saiga 12 19" barrel for $475+ s/h. NO RESERVE Saiga 12 12ga AK 47 Semi Auto AK47 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com Ive been wanting one of these bad boys for quite some time now. Will be fun converting another Saiga. The route Im going, its going to cost me roughly $120. Im going for the saigatechusa traditional trigger guard which is $49. http://saigatechusa.com/ __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-15-2009, 04:50 PM	#4
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	Nice looking Saiga! I dig the hk sights and tromix stock. Nice trigger guard set up too I almost went that route. Im going with the saigatechusa traditional though. also going to use the tapco standard ak stock and a tapco standard pistol grip. Mines going to look like the picture below, but with a saigatech trigger guard instead of reusing the factory trigger guard. Im kind of plain jane with my firearms and like them to look as stock as possible. __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-15-2009, 06:46 PM	#6
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	what was the cost of having them installed, may I ask? __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-15-2009, 10:09 PM	#7
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	I just finished purchasing items for my conversion. Including two 10 round promag magazines and a case for this firearm I spent about $240. I bought an E-Tac standard "Twisterpuc" which replaces the standard gas plug thing at the end of the gas piston. I needed another compliance part and this seemed like an upgrade instead of just a part replacement. Anyone have any experience with these? __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-16-2009, 01:36 AM	#8
Ten Man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 430	Congrats on your Saiga 12. I got one a couple months ago. I also got extra 12 round magazines for it. I LOVE it. I consider it the ULTIMATE Zombie destroyer. LOL __________________ AR10 - THE Battle Rifle! When Freedom is outlawed, only outlaws have Freedom.

10-14-2009, 10:20 PM	#2
ttwinsupra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 357	copycat lol nice choice man these things are so sweet when fully converted i already know every part im gonna put on mine. man i love to customise things. cant wait till chaos comes out with the extended rail that is the sickest rail ive ever seen

10-15-2009, 02:37 PM	#3
Deussne Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Niles Michigan. Posts: 209	They are fun. I got a 20rd drum on mine. Congrats and good luck with the conversion

10-15-2009, 06:08 PM	#5
Deussne Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Niles Michigan. Posts: 209	Nothing wrong with looking plain I got lots of rifle that would fit in to that description. However HK sights are absolutly wonderfull. I hit about 95% of the clay discs that are being thrown my way. We usually do 2 at the time. And with 20 round drum you hardly have to reload.

10-16-2009, 03:42 PM	#9
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	My Saiga in en route and will be here by wednesday yay! I doubt ill have all my conversion parts, the trigger guard required me to send the guy a money order blah. Il scavenging my tapco stock and pistol grip off my gp1975 to put on my saiga, and im going all wood on my gp. Centerfire Systems, Inc. - Your Home For Ammo, Firearms, Magazines, and Gun Accessories has wood stock sets for $12 that have everything except the top half of the handguard, and I bought a top half off GB for $9. probably going to refinish the wood in a "russian red" cus I also bought the trigger set-up from them for my conversion which includes a very nice cherry red pistol grip, along with the FCG and a gas piston, all for $10. I have to say Im at a loss as to what type of varnish to use on gun stocks that wont be dissolved by gun cleaning solvents. This is rather embarassing due to me being in the commercial painting business for quite a few years. Ive never had to deal with a product meeting this requirement. Im thinking maybe 2 part 100% solids epoxy? Any feedback regarding this would be most welcome. Dont make me start a thread about this, ILL DO IT I FREAKIN SWEAR ILL DO IT! hehe kiddin. Theres probably a thread regarding this, I shouldnt be lazy and look. __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-24-2009, 11:57 AM	#11
Diatribes Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 400	Did the conversion on my Saiga 12 last night. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day.

10-24-2009, 03:53 PM	#14
Deussne Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Niles Michigan. Posts: 209	ugh guys. have you ever heard of 922r? The only reason I am saying this is I am trying to keep you out of jail.

10-25-2009, 12:19 AM	#16
Madcat455 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 161	Looking good diatribes. The Saiga only needs 4 parts for compliance.. you got that covered. I don't know what all the hype about trigger assy's is... I pull the trigger, it goes boom.. what more is there??? LOL. I don't have any issues with the trigger on my .410. I didn't do a full conversion on it tho, cause I like the ability to put it back to factory if I want. Tapco pistol grip stock worked fine for me. Enjoy it.. my next gun after the .300 weatherby is going to be a Saiga 12.

10-25-2009, 12:32 AM	#17
ttwinsupra Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 357	man i do have to say im diggin the clean simple look, its a perfect example of the s12, very nice makes me think twice about all the mods im planing on doing....but ile still prob end up moding the heck out of it just to make it a Bad A i cant wait till i get the time to do the conv. you got me kinda ify on the trigger install ile prob just end up getting the tromix drop in ile have to go US group cuz im useing non us grip & stock piston for now

10-26-2009, 01:02 PM	#18
Great Basin Ben Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Silver State Posts: 59	Is your shoulder destroyed and completely purple yet????

10-27-2009, 06:55 PM	#20
Great Basin Ben Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Silver State Posts: 59	I realize that after 30 years of shooting normal firearms, that you're probably fine, what I meant was After ONE DAY of shooting the Saiga 12 was your shoulder destroyed and purpled??? My ONLY complaint about these guns is their recoil!!! Blackjack buffer along with Shock absorbing collapseable stock can definately help, but a day of shooting one of these is a WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME than shooting my Ithica model 37 for a whole day. A WHOLE LOT MORE FUN, but a whole lot more sore the next day too...