SAIGA 7.62x39 GROUP SIZE

COYOTE10663 · 10-30-2009, 12:06 PM

I have read some fantastic reviews on the .223 and on the .308 Win. chambered SAIGA's.

My intrest is in the 7.62x39. More to the point, how it groups at 100 yards.

I know there will be some large differences between cheap com-block ammo and USA made, brass cased, $15.00/box "premium" ammo.
I am interested in ALL the loads.

I will also be aquireing a reloader in the near future, so reload's can be included in this also. ( If so, please specify powder type/wt and bullet make/wt)

With my old Yugo SKS (see avatar for pic) useing Wnchester Super X, with the gas block shut off, I was able to get consistent 1.5" groups, whith often 1" 3-shot groups.
Does the SAIGA stand a chance at competing with this?

I have found one used, in orriginal configuration, with 3-9X x 32mm scope, an extra mag (10 rd??? ), Butler Creek sling and ????? brand bipod for $325.00 plus tax & call-in fees.

Sprout47 · 10-30-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by COYOTE10663

I have read some fantastic reviews on the .223 and on the .308 Win. chambered SAIGA's.

My intrest is in the 7.62x39. More to the point, how it groups at 100 yards.

I know there will be some large differences between cheap com-block ammo and USA made, brass cased, $15.00/box "premium" ammo.
I am interested in ALL the loads.

I will also be aquireing a reloader in the near future, so reload's can be included in this also. ( If so, please specify powder type/wt and bullet make/wt)

With my old Yugo SKS (see avatar for pic) useing Wnchester Super X, with the gas block shut off, I was able to get consistent 1.5" groups, whith often 1" 3-shot groups.
Does the SAIGA stand a chance at competing with this?

I have found one used, in orriginal configuration, with 3-9X x 32mm scope, an extra mag (10 rd??? ), Butler Creek sling and ????? brand bipod for $325.00 plus tax & call-in fees.

Yes, you can expect around the same amount of accuracy you have been getting with the SKS. My particular Saiga 7.62 came with a grouping from the factory of 300 something mm, scoped I can get around 1.5-2" groups at 100, sometimes better.

COYOTE10663 · 10-30-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprout47

Yes, you can expect around the same amount of accuracy you have been getting with the SKS. My particular Saiga 7.62 came with a grouping from the factory of 300 something mm, scoped I can get around 1.5-2" groups at 100, sometimes better.

What kind of ammo do you use to get the 2" group?

Sprout47 · 10-30-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by COYOTE10663

What kind of ammo do you use to get the 2" group?

Standard 123 gr. WOLF performance.

COYOTE10663 · 10-30-2009, 02:57 PM

WOW! Cheap ammo & that good of a group! My Yougo would not shoot under 5" spread with the Wolf ammo!

This SAIGA thing is starting to sound realllllllllllly tempting!

R5CYA · 10-30-2009, 03:06 PM

i doubt that you'd be dissapointed if you get a saiga!

Diatribes · 10-30-2009, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by COYOTE10663

This SAIGA thing is starting to sound realllllllllllly tempting!

Saiga FTW

Sprout47 · 10-30-2009, 05:52 PM

Ya, you have to remember that these are not kit guns, they are not built off of demilled rifles etc. The fact that everything is new means that they are built with the tightest tolerances you will find from an AK.

COYOTE10663 · 10-30-2009, 06:41 PM

You want to see somthing trully sad:

Yougo SKS $225.00
Choate stock + frt.: $ 90.00
Tapco Piston & gas tube: $ 40.00 (if I remember right)
POS 5-round detach. mag $ 19.00
Woulff recoil springs & ??? buffer + frt $ 15.00 (e-bay)
Muzzle brake & frt $ 35.00
Trigger job $ 50.00
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$474.00

Saiga to do the same thing: $325.00, PLUS it cames with a scope!

10-30-2009, 12:06 PM	#1
COYOTE10663 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 160	SAIGA 7.62x39 GROUP SIZE I have read some fantastic reviews on the .223 and on the .308 Win. chambered SAIGA's. My intrest is in the 7.62x39. More to the point, how it groups at 100 yards. I know there will be some large differences between cheap com-block ammo and USA made, brass cased, $15.00/box "premium" ammo. I am interested in ALL the loads. I will also be aquireing a reloader in the near future, so reload's can be included in this also. ( If so, please specify powder type/wt and bullet make/wt) With my old Yugo SKS (see avatar for pic) useing Wnchester Super X, with the gas block shut off, I was able to get consistent 1.5" groups, whith often 1" 3-shot groups. Does the SAIGA stand a chance at competing with this? I have found one used, in orriginal configuration, with 3-9X x 32mm scope, an extra mag (10 rd??? ), Butler Creek sling and ????? brand bipod for $325.00 plus tax & call-in fees. __________________ To be upset over the things you want & DO NOT have is to waste the things you DO have !

10-30-2009, 02:57 PM	#5
COYOTE10663 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 160	WOW! Cheap ammo & that good of a group! My Yougo would not shoot under 5" spread with the Wolf ammo! This SAIGA thing is starting to sound realllllllllllly tempting! __________________ To be upset over the things you want & DO NOT have is to waste the things you DO have !

10-30-2009, 03:06 PM	#6
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 2,087	i doubt that you'd be dissapointed if you get a saiga! __________________ Badges? We got no badges! i aint gotta show you no stinking badges!

10-30-2009, 05:52 PM	#8
Sprout47 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,361	Ya, you have to remember that these are not kit guns, they are not built off of demilled rifles etc. The fact that everything is new means that they are built with the tightest tolerances you will find from an AK. __________________ "Nothing is impossible with an AK "

10-30-2009, 06:41 PM	#9
COYOTE10663 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 160	You want to see somthing trully sad: Yougo SKS $225.00 Choate stock + frt.: $ 90.00 Tapco Piston & gas tube: $ 40.00 (if I remember right) POS 5-round detach. mag $ 19.00 Woulff recoil springs & ??? buffer + frt $ 15.00 (e-bay) Muzzle brake & frt $ 35.00 Trigger job $ 50.00 ------------------------------------------------ $474.00 Saiga to do the same thing: $325.00, PLUS it cames with a scope! __________________ To be upset over the things you want & DO NOT have is to waste the things you DO have !