Looking to buy my first AK

Freezing Hot · 11-15-2009, 12:27 PM

I'm looking into buying my first AK-47 soon. The local hardware store(the only place in town with an FFL) has a few International Arms Romanian WASR-10s for sale.

The tag says $616.29. Does this sound fair to you guys? I mean, it looks pretty decent but if it's not worth the money I'd like to hear some other suggestions.

They will order any gun I want that they can get for me, so if there is a better gun for the money, by all means recommend it.

Thanks!

squirrelblaster · 11-15-2009, 12:30 PM

that is way to much money for a wasr-10, wasr 10s are going for around $380 right now online, plues wasrs are about the bottom of the barrel as far as ak47s go. if i were you id order one of the arsinal ak from k-var they are top quality and going for $500.
infact i did just order one and am waiting for it to get here.

jmp8927 · 11-15-2009, 02:43 PM

^What he said. Except, I'd go with a Saiga myself.

Diatribes · 11-15-2009, 08:25 PM

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except, i'd go with a saiga myself.

+1

Sprout47 · 11-15-2009, 08:28 PM

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^What he said. Except, I'd go with a Saiga myself.

Can definitely not go wrong with a Saiga

Freezing Hot · 11-15-2009, 09:30 PM

I was looking at the "Arsenal AKs under $500" thread, clicked the link, and stumbled upon this beauty. It doesn't have the wood stocks that I liked, but I really think the picatinny rails are a good option to have.

K-VAR Corporation :: Rifles & Shotguns :: SGL21 Series – 7.62x39 Caliber Russian Stamped Receiver AK-47 Variant Rifles :: SGL21-66

Sprout47 · 11-15-2009, 09:53 PM

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I was looking at the "Arsenal AKs under $500" thread, clicked the link, and stumbled upon this beauty. It doesn't have the wood stocks that I liked, but I really think the picatinny rails are a good option to have.

K-VAR Corporation :: Rifles & Shotguns :: SGL21 Series – 7.62x39 Caliber Russian Stamped Receiver AK-47 Variant Rifles :: SGL21-66

That is a really good rail system too. The Arsenals are converted Saiga Legions. Can't go wrong with Arsenal.

Diatribes · 11-15-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezing Hot

I was looking at the "Arsenal AKs under $500" thread, clicked the link, and stumbled upon this beauty. It doesn't have the wood stocks that I liked, but I really think the picatinny rails are a good option to have.

K-VAR Corporation :: Rifles & Shotguns :: SGL21 Series – 7.62x39 Caliber Russian Stamped Receiver AK-47 Variant Rifles :: SGL21-66

That is a good price for a fully converted Saiga 7.62

BigEd63 · 11-16-2009, 12:44 AM

Yes get that one.

If I were not invested already in MAK-90's I'd be getting one of those they are a great buy.

Heck, I may still get one, or two sometime in the future.

Freezing Hot · 11-16-2009, 11:42 AM

Then, if I choose to, are the options there to switch out the stock and rail system with wood?
Like I stated before, I like the Romanian look, but I'm ALWAYS buying for function first.

Edit: Since(I think) it said the system and stock were USA made, I'd have to find USA made wood to remain 922r compliant, right?

Diatribes · 11-16-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezing Hot

Then, if I choose to, are the options there to switch out the stock and rail system with wood?
Like I stated before, I like the Romanian look, but I'm ALWAYS buying for function first.

Edit: Since(I think) it said the system and stock were USA made, I'd have to find USA made wood to remain 922r compliant, right?

You can switch out to wood no problem. Just dont use Chinese furniture as its made for 1.5mm receivers. Theres other ways to remain 922r compliant. Crapco trigger is 3 parts. You can use USA magazines for another 3 parts just make sure if your magazines are part of your comliancy ALL your magazines are compliant too. USA muzzle attachment is 1 part. If you really had to you could swap out your gas piston for 1 compliant part. Using a USA trigger group with USA mags would be enough.

Heres a nifty little tool you can use to calculate your compliancy

Gunwiki: 922(r) Worksheet for AK-47 Builds

Freezing Hot · 11-16-2009, 04:31 PM

I'll be going down soon and having them order it for me.
One last question: What is the difference between Warsaw Pact and NATO stocks?
The NATO is $20 more. So is it "better"?

Madcat455 · 11-16-2009, 04:36 PM

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I'll be going down soon and having them order it for me.
One last question: What is the difference between Warsaw Pact and NATO stocks?
The NATO is $20 more. So is it "better"?

Nato is like an 1in or 1¼in longer in the but stock.

Diatribes · 11-16-2009, 05:02 PM

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The NATO is $20 more. So is it "better"?

NATO stock length is 1 1/2" longer than Warsaw. It really depends on the shooter. Some people prefer the longer length of pull. I, myself prefer the Warsaw. I like my guns to snug up when Im aiming. Warsaw works good for me and Im 6'

Freezing Hot · 11-16-2009, 05:21 PM

I'll probably go with the Warsaw and it's always swappable if I don't like it.

Sprout47 · 11-16-2009, 05:21 PM

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NATO stock length is 1 1/2" longer than Warsaw. It really depends on the shooter. Some people prefer the longer length of pull. I, myself prefer the Warsaw. I like my guns to snug up when Im aiming. Warsaw works good for me and Im 6'

I would say that the NATO length is more suited for people who prefer to not put their nose on the top cover

I actually like having my face close so I too would say the WARSAW length, even though I screwed up and have a NATO length stock on mine :O

Diatribes · 11-16-2009, 07:31 PM

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I would say that the NATO length is more suited for people who prefer to not put their nose on the top cover

I actually like having my face close so I too would say the WARSAW length, even though I screwed up and have a NATO length stock on mine :O

I have special dust covers to allow for my nose to rest upon them. They were custom made by a local gun smith here locally. If your nose needs a rest let me know I can have him get in contact with you for fitting.

Sprout47 · 11-16-2009, 07:56 PM

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I have special dust covers to allow for my nose to rest upon them. They were custom made by a local gun smith here locally. If your nose needs a rest let me know I can have him get in contact with you for fitting.

But how else will I get to smell the Cordite?

Diatribes · 11-16-2009, 09:17 PM

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But how else will I get to smell the Cordite?

Cordite #5 after shave for men.

ttwinsupra · 11-16-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezing Hot

Then, if I choose to, are the options there to switch out the stock and rail system with wood?
Like I stated before, I like the Romanian look, but I'm ALWAYS buying for function first.

Edit: Since(I think) it said the system and stock were USA made, I'd have to find USA made wood to remain 922r compliant, right?

if your gonna swap the parts anyway just get a reg saiga then convert it with wood yourself. you will save about $300 if you do that