44/40 dies

Mick · 06-17-2005, 09:36 PM

I am going to buy some rcbs dies for my 44/40 lever action, I had a look on mid south shooters supplies, and they had about six different types of dies, I want single stage dies, but what does roll crimp mean? And what's the difference between cowboy action and western?

Basically there is a lot of choices, and all I want is some dies to reload 44/40 for hunting in a lever action rifle. What would you all suggest to be the best dies for me?

BattleRifleG3 · 06-19-2005, 12:51 PM

44/40 dies - RIP.

Ha ha, just kidding. I'm actually looking into the round a little more now that Taurus is ovvering a revolver in 410, 45 Colt, and 44-40.

Mick · 06-20-2005, 03:49 PM

Ha! it does look a bit strange

jerry · 06-20-2005, 04:09 PM

Dies are used in a single stage OR progressive operation. Some dies are better suited to progressive/multiple stage loading with certain features. You should be able to load single stage just fine with a common die set.

Roll crimp means the bullet is held in place by slightly rolling the brass into the projectile. The 44-40 headspaces on the case shoulder so this should be fine. Taper crimp basically squeezes the top part of the brass to the projectile at a taper. Do not over do the roll crimp, hard on brass.

I'm not sure about coboy action and western. It may be in the different types of projectiles used in the different application. This may require a phone call. I can call for you if you don't want to do an overseas call or they do not have the net to ask a question. Possibly someone here may know the difference???

Mick · 06-22-2005, 03:42 PM

Thanks jerry I'll send them an E-mail. do you think that if I was going to be using the brass a lot I'd be better with a taper crimp, than a roll?

jerry · 06-22-2005, 04:59 PM

I perfer a taper crimp. A roll crimp is very useable if not overused. I'm familiar with taper crimps mainly on semi auto rounds .45 ACP, 9mm etc.. they headspace on the front rim of the case so a taper works very well.

I got thinking, the difference between western and cowboy may just be in the seater plugs. The shape of the seater compared to the bullet style. I think SASS has flatter projectiles as a standard the others may be RN??????????Just a guess.

06-17-2005, 09:36 PM	#1
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	44/40 dies I am going to buy some rcbs dies for my 44/40 lever action, I had a look on mid south shooters supplies, and they had about six different types of dies, I want single stage dies, but what does roll crimp mean? And what's the difference between cowboy action and western? Basically there is a lot of choices, and all I want is some dies to reload 44/40 for hunting in a lever action rifle. What would you all suggest to be the best dies for me? __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand) Last edited by Mick; 06-17-2005 at 09:42 PM.

06-19-2005, 12:51 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	44/40 dies - RIP. Ha ha, just kidding. I'm actually looking into the round a little more now that Taurus is ovvering a revolver in 410, 45 Colt, and 44-40. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-20-2005, 03:49 PM	#3
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Ha! it does look a bit strange __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-20-2005, 04:09 PM	#4
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,760 Trader Rating: (0)	Dies are used in a single stage OR progressive operation. Some dies are better suited to progressive/multiple stage loading with certain features. You should be able to load single stage just fine with a common die set. Roll crimp means the bullet is held in place by slightly rolling the brass into the projectile. The 44-40 headspaces on the case shoulder so this should be fine. Taper crimp basically squeezes the top part of the brass to the projectile at a taper. Do not over do the roll crimp, hard on brass. I'm not sure about coboy action and western. It may be in the different types of projectiles used in the different application. This may require a phone call. I can call for you if you don't want to do an overseas call or they do not have the net to ask a question. Possibly someone here may know the difference??? __________________

06-22-2005, 03:42 PM	#5
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks jerry I'll send them an E-mail. do you think that if I was going to be using the brass a lot I'd be better with a taper crimp, than a roll? __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-22-2005, 04:59 PM	#6
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,760 Trader Rating: (0)	I perfer a taper crimp. A roll crimp is very useable if not overused. I'm familiar with taper crimps mainly on semi auto rounds .45 ACP, 9mm etc.. they headspace on the front rim of the case so a taper works very well. I got thinking, the difference between western and cowboy may just be in the seater plugs. The shape of the seater compared to the bullet style. I think SASS has flatter projectiles as a standard the others may be RN??????????Just a guess. __________________