Wolf Ammo any good?

Mooseman684 · 05-08-2006, 01:59 AM

After shooting thousands of rounds of Steel cased Wolf ammo in my SKS and Ak47's and Steel cased ammo in my Dragunov I have come to the conclusion that there has been absolutely NO wear in the chambers of any of my guns due to the fact that barrel and chamber hardness is greater than the Softer steel used for cases. The cases will scratch and bend...The chambers do not!
I use precision Machinist Micrometers and have checked the chambers for wear to .0001 (thats 1/ten-thousandths of an inch) . Throat erosion after several thousand rounds has been Minimal as well so I am going to continue to shoot Wolf Ammo as well as Real Russian surplus Ammo . I will ask the Machine gun club members if they have any problem with the steel cased ammo when I get to the next shoot! They shoot Many more thousands of rounds in a weekend so they will know if anybody does about Problems!
More often the Bore/Rifling wears out!
Rich

Despoiler · 05-08-2006, 02:10 AM

I agree, I have shot thousands of rounds of wolf ammo and I have never seen any problem in my ruger mini-30. but maybe that is because thoses Ar-15 are such crappy guns.....

pchpyegi · 05-08-2006, 02:24 AM

I've used Wolf ammo in my Fe'g 9x18 9mm mak. PA 63.
I've never had a problem with them.

Josh

nglitz · 05-08-2006, 09:18 AM

Notice a trend in the replies? The guys who say they like Wolf have shot a lot of it. I.e., they have personal experience. The guys who don't like it base it on "some guy told me" or "I heard".

It worked fine in my AR and it's the most accurate ammo for my WWII Remington 1911A1. It is definitly loaded to full speed.

I also used it in the CMP pistol matches at Camp Perry last summer. Didn't win either, (obviously) but I would have made the President's 160

(the match is for 100) and would have placed in the points in the individual trophy match if I wasn't already distinguished.

Norm

Oh BTW, tighter chambers have tighter "clearances" not "tolerances". A loose chamber, well manufactured, may well have lower tolerance than a given run of match chambers where each one is slightly different and needs ammo matched to the indivdual chamber.

MosinDave · 05-08-2006, 09:31 AM

Oh yeah, I have shot TONS of wolf through my AK with no problems at all. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier

Trey45 · 05-08-2006, 11:31 AM

The majority of bad feedback I've read about the Wolf ammo stems from their steel cases, how about some reports on their brass casing ammo?

Triplesixkoe · 05-08-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nglitz

It worked fine in my AR and it's the most accurate ammo for my WWII Remington 1911A1.

Ya...I'm not so sure you wanna put that nasty ammo in your 1911A1. It might be accurate but it's gonna gunk the Heck out of it. Notice that smell when you shoot it compared to other brands? Not good for business

Beer Forever · 05-08-2006, 03:06 PM

I have always used the 7.62x.39 Wolf and it treated me well. Sure, it may be a dirty round, but that is why I have a cleaning kit. They wouldn't be the largest ammo manufacturer in the world if their ammo didn't work.

FutureMarine · 05-09-2006, 01:43 AM

wolf should not be looked at any different. people should clean with care after shooting ANY type of round, just to make sure of the 'health' of the gun

Triplesixkoe · 05-09-2006, 01:50 PM

Duh!!! .

FutureMarine · 05-09-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Triplesixkoe

Duh!!! .

in another thread you said no !!!! sherlock when someone was just stating another fact. then i see you accuse Jerry of having no sense of humor. now i am just stating a plain fact, and you always have some smartbehind comment. why dont you just leave if you cant say have a sense of humor or hear something you already know!?

Trey45 · 05-09-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FutureMarine

or hear something you already know!?

I have to agree here, not everyone who visits this forum is an experienced shooter, I dare say many come here to get facts and info prior to buying their 1st firearm, or any other firearm related information they might need....

Triplesixkoe · 05-09-2006, 09:00 PM

Cool your jets guys...No need for horsin-around! Besides Future Marine...who made you Moderator for the day?What is this...Pick on Triplesixkoe day? 50% of things I say are jokes-have subtle humor and are not directly intended to offend anyone. Sorry if I did. So mind your beeswax scallywag!

(But seriously...common sense even tells you to clean your gun after every usage)

Oxford · 05-09-2006, 10:02 PM

I have been notified through proper channels to take a look at the direction this thread is going. After reviewing most of the reply's in this thread I find no serious problem other than an occasional personal comment which has no place in threads.

So...it would be wise to cut out personal attacks, stick strictly to facts and enjoy the opportunity to continue discussing pro's and con's of Wolf Ammo.:nod: :right:

FutureMarine · 05-09-2006, 11:19 PM

i dont think it takes a moderator to keep peace, but i will, as well as everyone else should take Oxford's advice and just stick to facts

Ach Du Liebe · 05-10-2006, 01:46 AM

Its easy to offend people when they dont know the tone of your voice and face expressions, etc. and who cares its on the freaking internet.

johnnyd73 · 05-10-2006, 02:52 PM

I have bought 2000 rounds of wolf .223 ammo.

I shoot prairie dogs from my Savage Varmint .223.

Wolf *occasionally* has a batch that is somewhat accurate, but more often, I find it wildly inconsistent.

As an example, I shot 5 rounds of UMC bulk ammo and grouped ~3/4" at 100yds. I shot 5 rounds of Wolf, and the pattern was nearly 6".

I shot another 6 rounds of UMC just to make sure, and the pattern was back to ~3/4"

Wolf is fine for plinking if you don't care at all about accuracy and you just want to make noise, but if you intend to have any consistent accuracy my experience says stay away.

Beer Forever · 05-10-2006, 03:15 PM

It can come and go I guess. I shoot really good groups with AKs using Wolf, but I would be hesitant to shoot Wolf through my 1911. My SKS with a scope shoots really accurate with Wolf ammo and never jams. That doesn't mean that I would want to shoot Wolf through all of my guns, but when it comes to 7.62x.39 it works well for me. Like I said before, they wouldn't be the world's largest ammo manufaturer if their stuff didn't go bang. Those Russians are good at shooting and killing.

FutureMarine · 05-10-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyd73

Wolf is fine for plinking if you don't care at all about accuracy and you just want to make noise, but if you intend to have any consistent accuracy my experience says stay away.

i ahve to agree. when i am just out having fun with family and freinds i will use wolf, but if i was out varmit hunting or cometition i would definitely go with something more quality. I really like the remington ammo. VERY accurate

Beer Forever · 05-10-2006, 05:04 PM

I am big a Remmington fan!!! I use nothing but Remmington in the 1911

05-08-2006, 01:59 AM	#41
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,307 Images: 2	After shooting thousands of rounds of Steel cased Wolf ammo in my SKS and Ak47's and Steel cased ammo in my Dragunov I have come to the conclusion that there has been absolutely NO wear in the chambers of any of my guns due to the fact that barrel and chamber hardness is greater than the Softer steel used for cases. The cases will scratch and bend...The chambers do not! I use precision Machinist Micrometers and have checked the chambers for wear to .0001 (thats 1/ten-thousandths of an inch) . Throat erosion after several thousand rounds has been Minimal as well so I am going to continue to shoot Wolf Ammo as well as Real Russian surplus Ammo . I will ask the Machine gun club members if they have any problem with the steel cased ammo when I get to the next shoot! They shoot Many more thousands of rounds in a weekend so they will know if anybody does about Problems! More often the Bore/Rifling wears out! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-08-2006, 02:24 AM	#43
pchpyegi Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2	==== Wolf Ammo ==== I've used Wolf ammo in my Fe'g 9x18 9mm mak. PA 63. I've never had a problem with them. Josh

05-08-2006, 09:18 AM	#44
nglitz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7	Notice a trend in the replies? The guys who say they like Wolf have shot a lot of it. I.e., they have personal experience. The guys who don't like it base it on "some guy told me" or "I heard". It worked fine in my AR and it's the most accurate ammo for my WWII Remington 1911A1. It is definitly loaded to full speed. I also used it in the CMP pistol matches at Camp Perry last summer. Didn't win either, (obviously) but I would have made the President's 160 (the match is for 100) and would have placed in the points in the individual trophy match if I wasn't already distinguished. Norm Oh BTW, tighter chambers have tighter "clearances" not "tolerances". A loose chamber, well manufactured, may well have lower tolerance than a given run of match chambers where each one is slightly different and needs ammo matched to the indivdual chamber. Last edited by nglitz; 05-08-2006 at 09:24 AM.

05-08-2006, 03:06 PM	#48
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,755	I have always used the 7.62x.39 Wolf and it treated me well. Sure, it may be a dirty round, but that is why I have a cleaning kit. They wouldn't be the largest ammo manufacturer in the world if their ammo didn't work. __________________ Paramedic/Firefighter sks forever FMF Corpsman Proud Father and Husband Proud American!!

05-09-2006, 10:02 PM	#54
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 14,098 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 4	I have been notified through proper channels to take a look at the direction this thread is going. After reviewing most of the reply's in this thread I find no serious problem other than an occasional personal comment which has no place in threads. So...it would be wise to cut out personal attacks, stick strictly to facts and enjoy the opportunity to continue discussing pro's and con's of Wolf Ammo.:nod: :right: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

05-08-2006, 02:10 AM	#42
Despoiler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The Occupied Territory of California Posts: 2,290 Images: 1	I agree, I have shot thousands of rounds of wolf ammo and I have never seen any problem in my ruger mini-30. but maybe that is because thoses Ar-15 are such crappy guns.....

05-08-2006, 09:31 AM	#45
MosinDave Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 570	Oh yeah, I have shot TONS of wolf through my AK with no problems at all. I guess I should have mentioned that earlier

05-08-2006, 11:31 AM	#46
Trey45 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 244 Images: 3	The majority of bad feedback I've read about the Wolf ammo stems from their steel cases, how about some reports on their brass casing ammo?

05-09-2006, 01:43 AM	#49
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	wolf should not be looked at any different. people should clean with care after shooting ANY type of round, just to make sure of the 'health' of the gun

05-09-2006, 01:50 PM	#50
Triplesixkoe Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida Posts: 127	Duh!!! .

05-09-2006, 09:00 PM	#53
Triplesixkoe Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, Florida Posts: 127	Cool your jets guys...No need for horsin-around! Besides Future Marine...who made you Moderator for the day?What is this...Pick on Triplesixkoe day? 50% of things I say are jokes-have subtle humor and are not directly intended to offend anyone. Sorry if I did. So mind your beeswax scallywag! (But seriously...common sense even tells you to clean your gun after every usage)

05-09-2006, 11:19 PM	#55
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	i dont think it takes a moderator to keep peace, but i will, as well as everyone else should take Oxford's advice and just stick to facts

05-10-2006, 01:46 AM	#56
Ach Du Liebe Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pasco, Washington Posts: 166	Its easy to offend people when they dont know the tone of your voice and face expressions, etc. and who cares its on the freaking internet.

05-10-2006, 02:52 PM	#57
johnnyd73 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 7	Wolf is fine for plinking I have bought 2000 rounds of wolf .223 ammo. I shoot prairie dogs from my Savage Varmint .223. Wolf occasionally has a batch that is somewhat accurate, but more often, I find it wildly inconsistent. As an example, I shot 5 rounds of UMC bulk ammo and grouped ~3/4" at 100yds. I shot 5 rounds of Wolf, and the pattern was nearly 6". I shot another 6 rounds of UMC just to make sure, and the pattern was back to ~3/4" Wolf is fine for plinking if you don't care at all about accuracy and you just want to make noise, but if you intend to have any consistent accuracy my experience says stay away.

05-10-2006, 03:15 PM	#58
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,755	It can come and go I guess. I shoot really good groups with AKs using Wolf, but I would be hesitant to shoot Wolf through my 1911. My SKS with a scope shoots really accurate with Wolf ammo and never jams. That doesn't mean that I would want to shoot Wolf through all of my guns, but when it comes to 7.62x.39 it works well for me. Like I said before, they wouldn't be the world's largest ammo manufaturer if their stuff didn't go bang. Those Russians are good at shooting and killing.

05-10-2006, 05:04 PM	#60
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,755	I am big a Remmington fan!!! I use nothing but Remmington in the 1911