ammo storage ?

billy · 02-02-2008, 06:10 AM

ok,
the only place i have to store ammo is in a metal shed that has wild temp fluctuations.
i want to make a VERY well insulated box to keep my gun food in.
it will have at least 12 inches of styrofoam wallboard on all sides as well as top and bottom.
what i am getting at is it very well may get quite warm as well as cold in that box but it will be a very slow temp change.
this is my only storage option.
wadaya think?

wunhunglo · 02-02-2008, 06:25 AM

How long are you reckoning to store the stuff?

billy · 02-02-2008, 06:26 AM

as long as needed.
ammo aint getting cheaper so i want to buy a lot.
i can double the thickness of the walls and top/bottom.

i want as much R factor as i can get.

wunhunglo · 02-02-2008, 06:33 AM

It will keep for donkey's years if sealed in an ammo can, preferably with a little desiccant.
Many of us still use stuff from the 40's onwards.

billy · 02-02-2008, 06:35 AM

it gets REALLY HOT in that shed.
cold im not worried about.

wunhunglo · 02-02-2008, 06:40 AM

Insulate it, paint it white, put a shade over it, ensure it is vented top & bottom. Store your gear in a ground pit if necessary.

samuel · 02-02-2008, 06:41 AM

Midwayusa has both the goldenrod dehumidifier #359695-$29.99,and hyskor gunvault dessicant,#273865-$17.79. sam.

billy · 02-02-2008, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel

Midwayusa has both the goldenrod dehumidifier #359695-$29.99,and hyskor gunvault dessicant,#273865-$17.79. sam.

there is no power in it and i dont own this land so i am not digging.
i can however buy as much dessicant as needed.
i am in the southwest so it isnt very humid at all.

samuel · 02-02-2008, 06:45 AM

Things that arent pumping blood dont get super hot unless in direct sunlight.Pick up wrenches in a building compared to lying out in the sun. sam.

billy · 02-02-2008, 06:47 AM

thats a darn good point.
but i have walked in there before in the summer and about fainted.
i suppose if i was in a heavily insulated box it wouldnt be too bad.

ArkansasHunter · 02-02-2008, 06:54 AM

Hi billy...Will the roof turbines work in the summer ? You know the round globe things that a breeze cause's to pull out the heat.
I have 2 on top of my house and there not connected to electrisity.
You can cover them with gabage bags in the winter.
You also should consider putting an air vent in the bottom area of the door like you see in homes that have central heat or reather the kind that are small that under the eve of house's.

Would these work ?????...A.H

billy · 02-02-2008, 07:04 AM

this is the shed.
as you can see it's just a steel box .
it has vents on top and bottom.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...esdrive052.jpg

samuel · 02-02-2008, 07:23 AM

Smart man,that AH!That must be what you call "YANKEE ENJINUITY".Actually those whirllygig vents do wonders but I dont know if they make them that small. The ammo would be okay but you may get warm getting it out.Also not over 2" insulation would be plenty.I keep ammo in an old refrigerator in a well vented 24'x40' pole building and as long as I leave the door open it is fine.We have a lot of humidity.By using dissicant and closing it up it should be fine. sam.

ArkansasHunter · 02-02-2008, 07:27 AM

It don't matter about size, apparently billy is opposed to the idea. That would be perfect.

billy · 02-02-2008, 07:28 AM

ok then!
good i am about to buy for starters 2400 rnds. of 7.62x54r
2000 7.62x39
2000 7.62x51
10,000 .22l.r.
see what i mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

It don't matter about size, apparently billy is opposed to the idea. That would be perfect.

the only reason i dont like it is it would hold snow on the roof and i dont always remember to shovel it off.
i need it to shed snow as much as possible.
dont get cranky A.H.!

I DONT WANT TO BUY AMMO AGAIN FOR A WHILE.

and since i reload i can keep replacing and or not shoot this stuff at all except for the .22l.r.

maybe i can find one i can put on the peak of the roof?
it really is a dandy idea.
possum must be brain food!

samuel · 02-02-2008, 07:41 AM

They wont sweat or even get nervous until they find out you are going to shoot them.That sounds like a good start,but my problem has always been if I had ammo I would find a reason to use it.Believe it or not,I bought 20 boxes of Federal .22lr 550 in the box last summer and I have 2 opened boxes left.Of course I have a soninlaw and grandkids on good days,but still that is a lot of shooting.I really didnt think I shot a .22 that much. sam.

billy · 02-02-2008, 07:45 AM

well sam,
since i dont beleive in SHTF and am not going to kill anyone anyway.....
this is all just food for my toys.
prices are rising and will probably never stop.
so i am trying to save some money.

uh oh....
dont get me started on the ever popular SHTF "when can i shoot somebody and not get in trouble "delusion/fantasy/ nocturnal emission pipedream!

samuel · 02-02-2008, 08:48 AM

I seldom ever read anything in that SHTF forum.I find myself too stupid to comprehend and unwilling to learn.(old age).But it entertains a lot of people and maybe someone will benefit from it.I have a lot of ammo on hand but most of it is for killing those orange birds or punching more holes in paper that already has holes in it.Dont make much more sense than hording ammo and waiting for something to happen so they can use it. sam.

ArkansasHunter · 02-02-2008, 08:51 AM

billy I'm sorry I just play'in LOL And after a year I found some more smileys to use.
LOL...A.H

That's Root beer in those galss'es !!!

billy · 02-02-2008, 08:52 AM

even the paper isnt in much danger from me.

aw heck A.H. you were just feeling frisky and wanted an excuse to use one of these.

02-02-2008, 06:10 AM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	ammo storage ? ok, the only place i have to store ammo is in a metal shed that has wild temp fluctuations. i want to make a VERY well insulated box to keep my gun food in. it will have at least 12 inches of styrofoam wallboard on all sides as well as top and bottom. what i am getting at is it very well may get quite warm as well as cold in that box but it will be a very slow temp change. this is my only storage option. wadaya think? __________________

02-02-2008, 06:35 AM	#5
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	it gets REALLY HOT in that shed. cold im not worried about. __________________

02-02-2008, 06:47 AM	#10
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	thats a darn good point. but i have walked in there before in the summer and about fainted. i suppose if i was in a heavily insulated box it wouldnt be too bad. __________________

02-02-2008, 07:04 AM	#12
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	this is the shed. as you can see it's just a steel box . it has vents on top and bottom. http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...esdrive052.jpg __________________

02-02-2008, 07:45 AM	#17
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	well sam, since i dont beleive in SHTF and am not going to kill anyone anyway..... this is all just food for my toys. prices are rising and will probably never stop. so i am trying to save some money. uh oh.... dont get me started on the ever popular SHTF "when can i shoot somebody and not get in trouble "delusion/fantasy/ nocturnal emission pipedream! __________________ Last edited by billy; 02-02-2008 at 07:56 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-02-2008, 06:25 AM	#2
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,658	How long are you reckoning to store the stuff?

02-02-2008, 06:26 AM	#3
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	as long as needed. ammo aint getting cheaper so i want to buy a lot. i can double the thickness of the walls and top/bottom. i want as much R factor as i can get. __________________ Last edited by billy; 02-02-2008 at 06:29 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-02-2008, 06:33 AM	#4
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,658	It will keep for donkey's years if sealed in an ammo can, preferably with a little desiccant. Many of us still use stuff from the 40's onwards.

02-02-2008, 06:40 AM	#6
wunhunglo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: currently "Sunny West Africa" Posts: 1,658	Insulate it, paint it white, put a shade over it, ensure it is vented top & bottom. Store your gear in a ground pit if necessary.

02-02-2008, 06:41 AM	#7
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Midwayusa has both the goldenrod dehumidifier #359695-$29.99,and hyskor gunvault dessicant,#273865-$17.79. sam.

02-02-2008, 06:45 AM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Things that arent pumping blood dont get super hot unless in direct sunlight.Pick up wrenches in a building compared to lying out in the sun. sam.

02-02-2008, 06:54 AM	#11
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	Hi billy...Will the roof turbines work in the summer ? You know the round globe things that a breeze cause's to pull out the heat. I have 2 on top of my house and there not connected to electrisity. You can cover them with gabage bags in the winter. You also should consider putting an air vent in the bottom area of the door like you see in homes that have central heat or reather the kind that are small that under the eve of house's. Would these work ?????...A.H

02-02-2008, 07:23 AM	#13
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	Smart man,that AH!That must be what you call "YANKEE ENJINUITY".Actually those whirllygig vents do wonders but I dont know if they make them that small. The ammo would be okay but you may get warm getting it out.Also not over 2" insulation would be plenty.I keep ammo in an old refrigerator in a well vented 24'x40' pole building and as long as I leave the door open it is fine.We have a lot of humidity.By using dissicant and closing it up it should be fine. sam.

02-02-2008, 07:27 AM	#14
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	It don't matter about size, apparently billy is opposed to the idea. That would be perfect.

02-02-2008, 07:41 AM	#16
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	They wont sweat or even get nervous until they find out you are going to shoot them.That sounds like a good start,but my problem has always been if I had ammo I would find a reason to use it.Believe it or not,I bought 20 boxes of Federal .22lr 550 in the box last summer and I have 2 opened boxes left.Of course I have a soninlaw and grandkids on good days,but still that is a lot of shooting.I really didnt think I shot a .22 that much. sam.

02-02-2008, 08:48 AM	#18
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	I seldom ever read anything in that SHTF forum.I find myself too stupid to comprehend and unwilling to learn.(old age).But it entertains a lot of people and maybe someone will benefit from it.I have a lot of ammo on hand but most of it is for killing those orange birds or punching more holes in paper that already has holes in it.Dont make much more sense than hording ammo and waiting for something to happen so they can use it. sam.

02-02-2008, 08:51 AM	#19
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	billy I'm sorry I just play'in LOL And after a year I found some more smileys to use. LOL...A.H That's Root beer in those galss'es !!!

02-02-2008, 08:52 AM	#20
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,141 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	even the paper isnt in much danger from me. aw heck A.H. you were just feeling frisky and wanted an excuse to use one of these. __________________ Last edited by billy; 02-02-2008 at 08:55 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost