Question on "Aguila 22 LR Sniper Sub-Sonic"

[mjcostel]

Saw some ammo on Gunbroker and wanted to get some feedback.

I wanted to know if this would be OK for my Remington 597.
Also wanted to get feedback about the stopping power and penetration.
Would a well placed shot have any hope of bringing down a small deer?
Gunbroker advertised stats

"This ammo has a 60 gr. Solid Point Lead Bullet. This ammo travels at 950 FPS, and exhibits 120 ft-lb upon impact. This ammo is the heaviest .22 LR available on the market today and can be fired in any .22 that is in good condition. Tests done by the manufacturer and other agencies show that this ammo will penetrate approximately 24 inches of ballistic gelatin at 200 meters."

Thanks,

Michael

[sell33]

sounds like a hell of a heavy 22 round, i would imagine a well placed shot would do a deer, but any 22 would probably take a close deer down if u hit it in the head, other than that i personally would never use a 22 on anything close to deer sized, but i would certainly imagine it could take a deer if it had to be done


I use my HMR17 for deer hunting. I hunt from a stand and no dogs. I shoot them at 100yds or less in the head only, they drop like a rock. No damaged meat, no looking for the deer, he is right...

That is from the thread "coyote hunting with a 17"...

a 22 only has about 140 ft lbs energy at the muzzle according to some online statistics, i dont think i would ever attempt to shoot a deer with that, although i saw no stats on a 60 gr. bullet, compare that to a 243 (generally the smallest rifle used for deer) with over 2000 ft lbs of energy....i dont think it would be practical at all

[wunhunglo]

Poachers in the UK have been using silenced .22 for years and have taken countless deer; most commonly the smaller Roe deer. I was that man in my youth; but you got to get close.

[samuel]

Put Aguila ammunition on your search bar,go down the page until you come to: The gun network LLC Discussion Forums 22 ammunition, they have a lot of opinions by people that have used all kinds of .22 rimfire ammo.The one you are looking for is :Aguila .22SS.Sorry I am so bad on a computer but this will tell you what you want to know about any .22 rimfire ammo. sam.

[mjcostel]

I was guessing that a head shot at ~100 yards(easily done with a scope on my Rem 597) might be effective in an emergency situation. (TEOTWAYKI scenerio) At this point I cannot afford a larger calibre rifle and 1000 rnds of the heavy .22lr would be $50.

Thanks - You guys are awesome!

Michael

[USAFShort]

Pretty impressive for a 22 RF round, if it performs as advertised. But I too, would never use a .22 LR to take deer sized game. Im not sure about anywhere else but my state regs have a minimum of .224 centerfire cartridge to take deer. From the poaching standpoint, this obviously doesnt apply.

My 2 cents

[sell33]

yeah i have no doubt it would kill a deer with a head shot i just dont think its all that practical.....

[wunhunglo]

Originally Posted by mjcostel

I was guessing that a head shot at ~100 yards(easily done with a scope on my Rem 597) might be effective in an emergency situation. (TEOTWAYKI scenerio) At this point I cannot afford a larger calibre rifle and 1000 rnds of the heavy .22lr would be $50.

Thanks - You guys are awesome!

Michael

The trajectory of a 60gn subsonic 22 must be like a baseball throw, a subsonic 40gn drops about 16-18" at 100 yards!

In the old days when I did shoot animals I would never have considered any shot at 100 yards. I doubt that I ever shot a deer at over 40 yards; in Scotland where I grew up we were always taught that the skill was in the stalking, ie getting as close as possible to your quarry before taking the shot..

[mjcostel]

I had no idea it would drop that much. I have no intention of hunting anything that large with the .22 unless times were really desperate and I have no access to a larger weapon.


I grew up in the woods of the Colorado Rockies and am pretty fair at stalking myself.

Michael

[samuel]

The longest fatal shot on a human that I know of by a .22lr was a boy that laid down and shot at a crow on a fence post and killed a man standing 1650+feet away.They may not be what you need beyond 60yds,but they are dangerous when fired randomly into the air. sam.

[ouch]

Samuel
Where did you hear about the accidental death?

Mjcostel
I like shooting the SSS. They use basically a 22 short brass and a real long bullet. They shoot well from all of my 22's including auto handguns. They are not that much quieter than a regular hi-velocity 22lr. If you want quiet and don't need much power consider the super Colibri They are quieter than most pellet guns from a bolt 22 rifle.

[Big Dog]

The Aguila "Triple S" is a specialty round, and good for what it is intended. It makes an excellent close-distance round to dispatch small varmints. Excellent "Whompability Factor", to quote a buddy. I have read of the Israelis using it to dispatch Tangos in a crowd - but cannot verify this.
I like it. It does show some lack of accuracy over 50 yards, and may 'keyhole' in newer .22 rifles. I find it seems to work better in older .22's with the old 'ballard' rifling. My older Marlins like it, as does my Romanian M69 trainer. My Whitney Wolverine .22LR semiauto pistol LOVES it! It also will cycle most .22 pistols.
It is fairly quiet, no loud "CRACK!", but a neighbor will hear it.
No local stores carry it, I have to either order it online or wait til the gunshow comes around!

[Bookman]

I've tried them and they work quite well. Very funny-looking rounds, IMO.

You'll know when you're shooting these Aguilas by the SMELL of the Eley primers.