To Wolf or Not To Wolf

[PONTIACDM]

This is just an opinion but I believe it to be true. The indoor ranges either recycle or resale the brass. It is easier to just sweep up the brass into buckets if it is all brass. If you mix the steel cases in with it then it has to be separated. So they just don't allow steel cases and make up a lot of excuses. Another thing I see with the wolf ammo is what I call the Hi-Point syndrome. People hear how bad they are (probably from the indoor ranges that don't want to separate it from the brass) and see the cheap price so it has to be bad. They go on hearsay only. Don't get me wrong their are people who have tried it and don't like it. But there are more who haven't tried it and talk bad about it than have tried it and not liked it. Some say that they are bad on the extractors. I haven't heard of anyone bending, breaking, or wearing out an extractor on steel case ammo. I know I haven't (yet). Doesn't mean I won't in the future. As many as I have shot and the money saved by buying the wolf over the years I can pay for lots of extractors. So if your reading this and haven't tried it, give it a shot. Go ahead I just gave you an excuse to go shooting.

[res45]

Wolf doesn't have a steel core,it has a thin copper coated steel jacket with a lead core,a couple of reason some ranges want let you use wolf or other Russian ammo is the steel bullet can cause sparks and fires in dry areas and being the Russian ammo has a steel case they can't pick it up and sell it like they would brass case ammo left at the range. Some ranges make allot of money selling used brass.

[gandog56]

You can sell the steel cases to recyclers just as easy. And separate them out with a magnet, so that's no excuse.

[NRAJOE]

I shoot WOLF 9mm all the time in my Ruger P95DC...9x18 in my CZ82...7.62X39 in my milled AK.

Never a problem with any....

[musicmaniac]

I have used plenty of Wolf and never had a problem due to ammo. I shot over 1000 rounds of 7.62x39 out of my SKS. And about 500 of the Wolf Military Classic 9x18 mak in my PA-63 with zero ammo related problems. Shot afew other various calibers, but these two are the two calibers I have consistent experience with. I love it and the price is right for plinking.

[Palladin8]

I have put thousands of rounds through my sks without a single problem. I have shot several boxes through my mosin without issue as well. I don't shoot the stuff in my pistols or AR because I have seen guys come into a local gun store with more than one broken extractor. One guy had a Wilson Combat that was damaged and they (Wilson) refused to fix the pistol because they say in their manual not to shoot it. I shoot it in my cheap guns because they are cheap and if damage occures I would not feel bad.

[gandog56]

I actually know a couple of people that reload the Wolf steel cases. I won't, but they do.

[SwedeSteve]

I think Wolf is fine for the price. The only problem I've ever had was a box of 7,62x39 that had gunpowder spilt into it somewhere along the line. I had to weigh each round to make ssure they all had powder.

[lunchbox99]

wolf is good for the price, my sks loves it. shot it in a P89dc aswell with no problems but I have found some brass cased stuff now in 9mm for 8.99 for 50 so i have been using that. to answer your question maybe use cheap ammo in cheap guns and more expensive ammo in expensive guns but wolf is good for the price.

[USAF_462/2W1X1]

My GI .45 hates wolf, my Norinco SKS does too but not as much as my .45, I get constant stovepipes and it never happens with any other ammo i use. I am a clean freak when it comes to my firearms so I know my actions weren't gunked up. I have bought it several times when fundage was running a little low and I always have small issues here and there, so i just stick to an @$$ ton of old mil-surp I have now. I know a lot of people love it for price and all that, but I like my firearms to function flawlessly.

Then again some people NEVER have problems with it, but I am just not one of those people.

Best advice- try it out in your firearms, if it works for you, great, if not, try some of the plethera of other cheap russian ammo or get some of that Yugo mil-surp...

[germanbock]

I am finally getting a good idea from all of your comments with out purchasing a box of ammo. Good to hear from all of your experience. It’s all ways good to hear your opinion, from the pros.

[lorcin25]

Originally Posted by germanbock

My intent is not to bad mouth a manufacture, but to understand.

I was at an indoor range, and they told me not to buy Wolf ammo because it jams the handguns. There shouldn’t be any problems if the gun is cleaned and maintained. Why would they stress the idea – not to use Wolf Ammo?

I think the only pro would be the economical end.

Has anyone noticed auto-loading jams? In another thread, Privateer spoke of the smell, but I don’t care, I’m in an indoor range with a ventilation system.
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

I used some Wolf rounds with my M&P 40c. Everyone knows about the reliability of Smith. I had just cleaned my gun prior to shooting. I found two problems with the ammo.

1. Stove piping. Almost every round. I would have to knock the slide forward to get the round in the chamber. Not too big a problem.

2. The empty casing expanded so much in the barrel that it would not come out. I literally had to get a pencil and poke it out (happened 4 times I think before I just quit shooting the stuff). I dont know if it was the coating around the casing or what. I don't like the stuff. Would never shoot it again even if it were given to me.

+1for wolf: They have an ammo return policy. Nice.

[Laufer]

My Mini 14, 30 and SKS have only used Wolf, plus a few Silver Bear in the 14. None with the ancient Savage .22 and MN 44 (surplus Bulgarian). Most of the Wolf is the newer polymer coating.

I had about three stovepipes in my Mini 14 with the Ruger 20-round mag., when I first tested it at the store's range, before buying it used, but at most one since then. The serial number indicates that the rifle was manufactured in 1980 (it has a silver Kentucky sticker on it). For what it is worth, the aftermarket plastic Promag (30-rd.) mag. I bought in January for the 14 has only had 4-10 rounds in it, but so far works perfectly.

The Norinco SKS had been unfired when I met the generous seller half-way to Nashville, and has been absolutely perfect.
A shorter, so-called Paratrooper series would be one of the best self-defense weapons.

The Mini 30, which had consumed about 100 rounds when I bought it, had about three-four misfires with Wolf but no misfeeds yet with the factory "micro magazine", using a total of about 300 rounds.
And you can order a stronger firing pin spring from Brownell's for the Mini 30.

[Mike Franklin]

Today I read an article on another site. They advised to not use Wolf in ARs or Mini 14s/30s. They did think it was ok for AKs and SKSs.

[gandog56]

So what? American weapons can't handle commie ammo, but commie guns can?

I don't believe that for a second.

[magicjeep]

I just purchased a tin of wolf for my S&W 45. I fired about 200 rounds of it and I had 1 casing get stuck, just like Lorcin had. Luckily I had a brass rod in my range box and was able to poke it out. Other than that so far I haven't had any problems, knock wood.
I have had several problems with remington thunderbolts 22lr. I have had jams and misfires like crazy in both my marlin 995 and my new ruger mkIII 22/45.

[mosquitofish]

I've use wolf ammo w/ little or no problems. 9mm & 7.62x39. Better than Remington 22 lr. cyclone ammo this stuff was junk. 1 in 10 miss fires!!!

[gandog56]

Originally Posted by germanbock

I am finally getting a good idea from all of your comments with out purchasing a box of ammo. Good to hear from all of your experience. It’s all ways good to hear your opinion, from the pros.

There's pros here?.....WHERE?

[Elvis Is Dead]

I've just heard too many bad stories to take any chances. The day I buy wolfe I'll also but a High Point to shoot it out of.

[Missouri Sniper]

Originally Posted by germanbock

My intent is not to bad mouth a manufacture, but to understand.

I was at an indoor range, and they told me not to buy Wolf ammo because it jams the handguns. There shouldn’t be any problems if the gun is cleaned and maintained. Why would they stress the idea – not to use Wolf Ammo?

I think the only pro would be the economical end.

Has anyone noticed auto-loading jams? In another thread, Privateer spoke of the smell, but I don’t care, I’m in an indoor range with a ventilation system.
Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

Same with me my SKS AND AR EAT IT LIKE CANDY!!!!!!!! alot of guy's at my gun club swear by the Wolf for Silhouette competition in the .22 LR!