.45 Colt Leverevolution ?

Mike Franklin · 07-21-2008, 03:24 PM

Hqas anyone used these in their Colt SAA? I was really wondering about muzzle velocity?

Midas · 07-21-2008, 05:15 PM

I believe the Leverevolution was designed with modern design firearms in mind. Not meant for replicas.

Mike Franklin · 07-21-2008, 05:27 PM

I can't get anything for anyone about'm????

Midas · 07-21-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Franklin

I can't get anything for anyone about'm????

I believe I posted some information, this ammo is NOT meant for replicas.

Bravo · 07-21-2008, 05:51 PM

Do they even make LeverEvolution ammo in .45Colt?

Midas · 07-21-2008, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravo

Do they even make LeverEvolution ammo in .45Colt?

Yes, but I believe it is a Cabela's exclusive.

Bravo · 07-21-2008, 06:10 PM

Woah...That's sweet. Makes me wish that I kept my .45colt.

Midas · 07-21-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravo

Woah...That's sweet. Makes me wish that I kept my .45colt.

The .45 Colt is a great old cartridge, and she still has some life left in her!

Mike Franklin · 07-21-2008, 06:37 PM

OK, Midas, and I'm not starting a fight, but can you give your source? I like to know these things. I couldn't find nothing on'm.

Midas · 07-21-2008, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Franklin

OK, Midas, and I'm not starting a fight, but can you give your source? I like to know these things. I couldn't find nothing on'm.

I haven't seen any data on the .45 Colt, but judging by the nature of the other Leverevolution cartridges, which are recommended only for modern firearms, and strong actions, I am assuming that it will be the same for the .45 Colt

DWFan · 07-21-2008, 07:22 PM

The .45 Colt is a Cabela's exclusive, but I too am assuming it's meant for modern revolvers and rifles. I'm rather disappointed about the .357 though. Less than 1450 fps with a 140gr bullet? Existing 158gr loads can easily out perform that.

gandog56 · 07-21-2008, 08:07 PM

I believe the bullets are designed more for expansion than velocity.

TXplt · 07-21-2008, 09:11 PM

I've just bought a box for my judge, and there's not +P designation on it--it lists 920 MV and 813 at 100 yards. Doesn't depict gun. I believe it'd be safe in any modern built 45 colt--including SAA type replicas (the ammo doesn't have the +P designator). You could e-mail Hornady to be sure.

It took 2 weeks on order at Cabela's....won't have the chance to chrony it for a little bit (was just at the range today but not with the Judge). They are for sale now, though.

DWFan · 07-21-2008, 09:14 PM

Just as a note, an e-mail from Hornady informed me that the reason the bullets used in the lever-evolution ammo aren't available for sale as a reloading component is that the patent on them is still pending.

TXplt · 07-21-2008, 09:27 PM

The standard press buffalo bore heavy 45 colts are safe in all modern firearms (Keith or 200gr GDHP) -- I've shot these in the judge, and, while stout, are fine and controllable. Without going into a ruger (or similar gun rated for the +P 45 colts) I really think it'd be hard to beat this performance in the SAA, Judge, or SAA replicas. The +P BB loadings I think would be tough to beat as well, but are only meant for certain firearms capable of handling them.

Midas · 07-21-2008, 09:31 PM

Okay, glad we got this cleared up.

DWFan · 07-21-2008, 09:34 PM

I'd like to see what the 225gr .44 bullet would do loaded in a .445 SuperMag.

Ballbearing · 08-06-2008, 01:15 AM

After seeing this thread, I couldn't help but think that our ancestors, Frontiersman, Trapper, Lawman, Outlaw, Cowboy and Indian alike were perfectly content to trust their shooting, hunting, defense and warfare to ordinary, low to medium velocity rounds and apparrently, they worked just dandy. I wonder why we always seem to be pumping up the power these days? The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and the Battle of The Little Big Horn weren't fought with Buffalo Bore rounds, or hot reloads. Just ordinary, commercial rounds loaded with ordinary black powder. And i think some of Crazy Horse's warriors were armed with Henry's and those babies shot the .44 rimfire round which by today's standards would be anemic. Custer's soldiers had trapdoor Springfields in 45-70 which were much more powerful, but were single shots. But the repeaters (and strength in numbers) won the day. The most noted pistolero of the old west, Wild Bill Hickcock, carried, of all things, 2 1851 Colt Navy's. Both, .36 caliber black powder revolvers that weren't magnums by any measure. But you really didn't want to p.o. Mr. Hickcock in his heyday, or those .36's would do for you.

Mooseman684 · 08-06-2008, 01:27 AM

Nobody including Hornady and Cabelas lists a .45 Colt Leverevolution cartridge as being available.
Next , It is Rifle ammo and Not for Handguns ! It is made for lever action Rifles Only...

TXplt · 08-06-2008, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Nobody including Hornady and Cabelas lists a .45 Colt Leverevolution cartridge as being available.
Next , It is Rifle ammo and Not for Handguns ! It is made for lever action Rifles Only...

Hmmmmmmmm

I ordered 2 boxes online from Cabela's, and picked them up several weeks ago. Haven't shot them yet, but I can definitely say they're available--they're sitting with the rest of my ammo right now.

Here's a link to the Cabela's site where you can order them. They are new, and I haven't seen them elsewhere.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/te...839&hasJS=true

There's no +P designation on the box, and the velocity listed is similar to my other .45 colt ammo.

Why can't I use it in handguns--it says on the site for rifles and revolvers ? Please let me know if you know something I don't. The ammo cost is similar to other .45 colts--with a decent bullet, so it seems like a good deal.

07-21-2008, 03:24 PM	#1
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,276	.45 Colt Leverevolution ? Hqas anyone used these in their Colt SAA? I was really wondering about muzzle velocity? __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

07-21-2008, 05:15 PM	#2
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,821 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I believe the Leverevolution was designed with modern design firearms in mind. Not meant for replicas. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

07-21-2008, 05:27 PM	#3
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,276	I can't get anything for anyone about'm???? __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

07-21-2008, 06:37 PM	#9
Mike Franklin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Poteet, Texas Posts: 1,276	OK, Midas, and I'm not starting a fight, but can you give your source? I like to know these things. I couldn't find nothing on'm. __________________ Aim real good we're nearly out of ammo.

07-21-2008, 09:11 PM	#13
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,838 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	I've just bought a box for my judge, and there's not +P designation on it--it lists 920 MV and 813 at 100 yards. Doesn't depict gun. I believe it'd be safe in any modern built 45 colt--including SAA type replicas (the ammo doesn't have the +P designator). You could e-mail Hornady to be sure. It took 2 weeks on order at Cabela's....won't have the chance to chrony it for a little bit (was just at the range today but not with the Judge). They are for sale now, though. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas Last edited by TXplt; 07-21-2008 at 09:31 PM.

07-21-2008, 05:51 PM	#5
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,900	Do they even make LeverEvolution ammo in .45Colt?

07-21-2008, 06:10 PM	#7
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,900	Woah...That's sweet. Makes me wish that I kept my .45colt.

07-21-2008, 07:22 PM	#11
DWFan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N. Texas Posts: 699 Blog Entries: 2	The .45 Colt is a Cabela's exclusive, but I too am assuming it's meant for modern revolvers and rifles. I'm rather disappointed about the .357 though. Less than 1450 fps with a 140gr bullet? Existing 158gr loads can easily out perform that.

07-21-2008, 08:07 PM	#12
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 4,354	I believe the bullets are designed more for expansion than velocity.

07-21-2008, 09:14 PM	#14
DWFan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N. Texas Posts: 699 Blog Entries: 2	Just as a note, an e-mail from Hornady informed me that the reason the bullets used in the lever-evolution ammo aren't available for sale as a reloading component is that the patent on them is still pending.

07-21-2008, 09:27 PM	#15
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,838 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	The standard press buffalo bore heavy 45 colts are safe in all modern firearms (Keith or 200gr GDHP) -- I've shot these in the judge, and, while stout, are fine and controllable. Without going into a ruger (or similar gun rated for the +P 45 colts) I really think it'd be hard to beat this performance in the SAA, Judge, or SAA replicas. The +P BB loadings I think would be tough to beat as well, but are only meant for certain firearms capable of handling them. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

07-21-2008, 09:31 PM	#16
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,821 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	Okay, glad we got this cleared up. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

07-21-2008, 09:34 PM	#17
DWFan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N. Texas Posts: 699 Blog Entries: 2	I'd like to see what the 225gr .44 bullet would do loaded in a .445 SuperMag.

08-06-2008, 01:15 AM	#18
Ballbearing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Boondocks Posts: 146	After seeing this thread, I couldn't help but think that our ancestors, Frontiersman, Trapper, Lawman, Outlaw, Cowboy and Indian alike were perfectly content to trust their shooting, hunting, defense and warfare to ordinary, low to medium velocity rounds and apparrently, they worked just dandy. I wonder why we always seem to be pumping up the power these days? The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral and the Battle of The Little Big Horn weren't fought with Buffalo Bore rounds, or hot reloads. Just ordinary, commercial rounds loaded with ordinary black powder. And i think some of Crazy Horse's warriors were armed with Henry's and those babies shot the .44 rimfire round which by today's standards would be anemic. Custer's soldiers had trapdoor Springfields in 45-70 which were much more powerful, but were single shots. But the repeaters (and strength in numbers) won the day. The most noted pistolero of the old west, Wild Bill Hickcock, carried, of all things, 2 1851 Colt Navy's. Both, .36 caliber black powder revolvers that weren't magnums by any measure. But you really didn't want to p.o. Mr. Hickcock in his heyday, or those .36's would do for you.

08-06-2008, 01:27 AM	#19
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,702 Images: 2	Nobody including Hornady and Cabelas lists a .45 Colt Leverevolution cartridge as being available. Next , It is Rifle ammo and Not for Handguns ! It is made for lever action Rifles Only... __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!