Heres an idea for ya....

Pred · 01-12-2006, 04:43 PM

Ok, call me crazy, but I got me an idea. I'm starting my build on my first AR, and this is going to kindof be an all around SHTF rifle. I'm going with a 20" barrel so I'll have that ability to "reach out and touch someone" beyond 200 yards

. NOW, heres the deal. I know I'll buy a flip up rear sight for it, and I know I'll put a red-dot on it for close range. While looking through a catalog the other night, I stumbled across a 45 degree mount for AR's. I also just got Call of Duty 2 and noticed the scope on the Enfields are at an angle to the left side of the gun( I know I know its a game), but I got to thinking. With a 20" barrel I'll have the ability to stick a bipod under it without having a problem. If I could stick a flip up rear sight on the back(for backup), and a red-dot AND a nice scope to the side, by god, I'd have everything covered. :target: .... Looks like this, the only problem I can see is I'd be pushing it for space. I have a feeling the red-dot and scope would take up to much space and hit each other.

silentknight · 01-12-2006, 05:03 PM

What i have seen some people do, is have regular sights or a flat top w/ a scope. They had a handguard w/ the 4 rails on it, on the right rail they had a holo sight or a red dot because they don't require a certain eye relief. I'm not saying that this works good, but I've seen it.

However I'm a firm believer in: Simple is Smooth, Smooth is Fast, and Fast is Good. If it were me, I'd have just a scope w/ flip up sights for backup

Pred · 01-12-2006, 05:17 PM

Thats the thing, I want the rear sights of course, I also want some type of long range capability, but also the easy target acquisition of a red-dot.

FutureMarine · 01-12-2006, 06:36 PM

AHHHH Call of duty 2 was so awesome, i beat it in a week when i was off school

silentknight · 01-12-2006, 11:10 PM

I'd get the 45° adapters, even if you don't end up using them for this specific reason, you can surely find some use for them, just dont get this many things on your AR15

Copper · 01-12-2006, 11:37 PM

Holy cheese and rice Batman!!!! Whatever happened to Keep It Simple, Stupid???? The only thing I have on my Bushmaster M4 is an Aimpoint M2, with GG&G flip-up rear sights, a Tango-down veritcal grip, with a Surefire
XD-200 light with a pressure pad on it. It does everything that I want it to, and it's pretty easy to get in and out of a patrol car in a hurry if you have to.

Pred · 01-13-2006, 09:20 AM

Believe me, I dont want that much stuff on there.

BattleRifleG3 · 01-15-2006, 12:53 AM

I have to say that such a thing is tempting. In hunting I've wished I had multiple siting options at my fingertips.

In some "practical" competition ARs, they have short site radius irons on the handguard at about 45 degrees.

Shaun · 01-15-2006, 01:25 AM

How about a simple carry model handled upper -- put a see through rail in the top of the handle and you have your iron sights and the red dot its simple and effective. I have a similar setup for my AR

Copper · 01-18-2006, 03:37 PM

I'd sure hate to drop that thing. It looks like something out of Star Wars.

Beer Forever · 01-19-2006, 01:56 PM

I have a couple of those. THey suck

Lonegun1894 · 01-24-2006, 02:01 AM

All i have on mine is a standard A-2 type upper with a 16 incher attached to it. The only customizing it has had is a triggerjob and a spare-parts kit (extractor, ejector, springs and pins) in the pistolgrip. No scope or reddot sight or anything special. I tried a scope on a see through mount and it just threw the balance off so i went back to stock configuration. May be cause the scope was a 24X back when i took the AR after coyotes. It was useless that way as a tactical rig though.

01-12-2006, 04:43 PM	#1
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Heres an idea for ya.... Ok, call me crazy, but I got me an idea. I'm starting my build on my first AR, and this is going to kindof be an all around SHTF rifle. I'm going with a 20" barrel so I'll have that ability to "reach out and touch someone" beyond 200 yards . NOW, heres the deal. I know I'll buy a flip up rear sight for it, and I know I'll put a red-dot on it for close range. While looking through a catalog the other night, I stumbled across a 45 degree mount for AR's. I also just got Call of Duty 2 and noticed the scope on the Enfields are at an angle to the left side of the gun( I know I know its a game), but I got to thinking. With a 20" barrel I'll have the ability to stick a bipod under it without having a problem. If I could stick a flip up rear sight on the back(for backup), and a red-dot AND a nice scope to the side, by god, I'd have everything covered. :target: .... Looks like this, the only problem I can see is I'd be pushing it for space. I have a feeling the red-dot and scope would take up to much space and hit each other. Last edited by Pred; 01-12-2006 at 04:47 PM.

01-12-2006, 05:03 PM	#2
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	What i have seen some people do, is have regular sights or a flat top w/ a scope. They had a handguard w/ the 4 rails on it, on the right rail they had a holo sight or a red dot because they don't require a certain eye relief. I'm not saying that this works good, but I've seen it. However I'm a firm believer in: Simple is Smooth, Smooth is Fast, and Fast is Good. If it were me, I'd have just a scope w/ flip up sights for backup __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

01-12-2006, 11:10 PM	#5
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	I'd get the 45° adapters, even if you don't end up using them for this specific reason, you can surely find some use for them, just dont get this many things on your AR15 __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

01-15-2006, 12:53 AM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I have to say that such a thing is tempting. In hunting I've wished I had multiple siting options at my fingertips. In some "practical" competition ARs, they have short site radius irons on the handguard at about 45 degrees. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-15-2006, 01:25 AM	#9
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,592 Images: 1	How about a simple carry model handled upper -- put a see through rail in the top of the handle and you have your iron sights and the red dot its simple and effective. I have a similar setup for my AR __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

01-12-2006, 05:17 PM	#3
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Thats the thing, I want the rear sights of course, I also want some type of long range capability, but also the easy target acquisition of a red-dot.

01-12-2006, 06:36 PM	#4
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	AHHHH Call of duty 2 was so awesome, i beat it in a week when i was off school

01-12-2006, 11:37 PM	#6
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	Holy cheese and rice Batman!!!! Whatever happened to Keep It Simple, Stupid???? The only thing I have on my Bushmaster M4 is an Aimpoint M2, with GG&G flip-up rear sights, a Tango-down veritcal grip, with a Surefire XD-200 light with a pressure pad on it. It does everything that I want it to, and it's pretty easy to get in and out of a patrol car in a hurry if you have to.

01-13-2006, 09:20 AM	#7
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Believe me, I dont want that much stuff on there.

01-18-2006, 03:37 PM	#10
Copper Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Southern "Mizzeruh" Posts: 246	I'd sure hate to drop that thing. It looks like something out of Star Wars.

01-19-2006, 01:56 PM	#11
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I have a couple of those. THey suck __________________ Paramedic sks forever

01-24-2006, 02:01 AM	#12
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206	All i have on mine is a standard A-2 type upper with a 16 incher attached to it. The only customizing it has had is a triggerjob and a spare-parts kit (extractor, ejector, springs and pins) in the pistolgrip. No scope or reddot sight or anything special. I tried a scope on a see through mount and it just threw the balance off so i went back to stock configuration. May be cause the scope was a 24X back when i took the AR after coyotes. It was useless that way as a tactical rig though.