overall ar 15 information

knightRider · 02-04-2007, 01:17 PM

i might get a lower end ar 15 can any one give me the run down . good rifle for the price diff in the calibers and your personal fav. ?
thanks

jwhunter · 02-04-2007, 01:44 PM

Well there are definately some guys here that can answer your question with more detail than me, but i am in the process of ordering my first ar and im going with the olympic arms K16. It goes for about 650$ but ive heard some really good feedback on them from several other members here. I've looked around quite a bit and that seems to be about as cheap as they come. Unless of course you build your own but even then the total cost is in the same range. The K16 seems nice, give the post a couple days and you'll have some more info. Good luck

knightRider · 02-04-2007, 02:39 PM

thanks .
I dont understand the difference in the Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Olympic K16 16" Bull Barrel Rifle Carbine ,Olympic K3B-M4 16" Rifle A2 ,Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Carbine 20,

i was looking at the Olympic CAR GI16 Basic Rifle so any info greatly app.
i dont want to pay 600 to 800 dollers and not know what im getting into !!!

CrazyIvan · 02-04-2007, 02:55 PM

I got my first AR last November. It is a Bushmaster XM-15 Varminter (24" barrel). I can tell you that it is solid. I have shot over 550 rounds now through it and not one misfire, misload, jam or anything; and I am trigger happy. I've been known to fire off 120 rounds as quick as I safely can. It's accurate to boot. Of course, accuracy and no issues has a lot of to do with how well you keep your weapon too.

Bushmaster isn't a low-priced brand, but for me, it was well worth the cash.

A lot of guys here will say there are other brands as good as Bushmaster for less $$, but I can't say whether that is true or not, because I don't own one.

Pred · 02-04-2007, 09:35 PM

Ok ok ok , hold up. Lets try this from a different angle. First, what is your budget for an AR. Second, what are you wanting out of an AR? Answer these two questions and it will be much easier to give you some advice.

USMC · 02-04-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightRider

thanks .
I dont understand the difference in the Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Olympic K16 16" Bull Barrel Rifle Carbine ,Olympic K3B-M4 16" Rifle A2 ,Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Carbine 20,
i was looking at the Olympic CAR GI16 Basic Rifle so any info greatly app.
i dont want to pay 600 to 800 dollers and not know what im getting into !!!

Here is a link to Olys site. Look under the products tab and you can select the style AR you want to get info on:Olympic Arms, Inc.
You can also get some good info about Oly products from people who use them at OA2 | The Olympic Arms Owners Association

I own several Olympic ARs and mine are all excellent and very accurate.

knightRider · 02-05-2007, 12:55 PM

I am looking for 600 - 750 . just for an all round rifle great rifle , but mostly for shooting for fun.

Pred · 02-05-2007, 01:13 PM

Stag Arms M4 Lower 1/2 - with 6 Position Stock = $255
Stag Arms M4 Chrome Lined, Complete Upper Receiver Assembly With ARMS #40 A2 BUIS = $480
Total = $735
This doesn't include shipping or the transfer fee of course. But your not going to get much cheaper then that unless you buy a used upper.

Stag Arms Lower Receivers, Upper Assemblies, Buttstocks and Parts at Eagle Firearms AR15 Online Store

knightRider · 02-05-2007, 01:29 PM

then i would have to put it togeather ? with what diff is that done ?
thanks for the help.

allso what caliber do you thinks best pred? i own a ak 47 so would it be smart to get a ar 15 with 7.62 rounds?

CrazyIvan · 02-05-2007, 03:45 PM

Here ya go:

GunsAmerica - XM15 shorty semis
There are some other good deals for new bushmasters there on Gunsamerica too. If you don't mind a used one, you can get a very good one for a very good price.

troylaplante · 02-05-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

I got my first AR last November. It is a Bushmaster XM-15 Varminter (24" barrel).

I bought an XM-15 with 16" barrel slightly used for $500 a while back. The shortie is a bit short on the stock for me, so I may need to put a telescoping stock on it.

Beer Forever · 02-05-2007, 04:12 PM

You can't really get an AR in 7.62X.39. They make the AR-47, but it is not perfected in anyway. THere are some ARs with different magwells that accomodate AK mags, but then you have to get a different upper. If you want an AR-15 that shoots 7.62x.39 reliably, it is going to be in the 2,000s. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 and/or .223, that is it. There are AR-10s, but that is a whole different animal chambered in .308

For 600-750 you can get an olympic, DPMS, Stag, build one, or buy used. AR-15s have gone up so much the later option isn't available like it once was. You will get a better rifle if you build it for that money. I built mine using DPMS lower and upper with a RRA lower parts that had a 2 stage trigger. I think that you should go to AR15.com and do as much research as you can and make an infromed descion based on what you have learned.

The A1 is going to be the best bet for you, like it was for me because of cost. I put mine together bare bones for around $750 and after all the mods I have about $1100 into it, at the least. You will save money and learn more about the rifle if yo put it together from a stripped lower, but this requires some mechanical skills that not everyone has, but I think that you could do it no problem. I put mine together and upgraded it piece by piece until it came out how I wanted it to. Now this puppy shoots under 1'' at 100 yards standing with old mil-surp SS109 ammo.

Orlando · 02-05-2007, 04:31 PM

I haven't recieved all the parts yet buy I have right around $700.00 for everything, taxes, shipping. Rock River A2 20 inch barrel.

knightRider · 02-05-2007, 04:55 PM

sweet rifle sks ! Im in no rush to buy cause i got to sell a harley first anyway so ill just read up on them

Pred · 02-05-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightRider

then i would have to put it togeather ? with what diff is that done ?

All you have to do is snap it together. No big deal, trust me. Stick with the .223 round for your first AR.

at4rxj · 02-05-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sks forever

You can't really get an AR in 7.62X.39. They make the AR-47, but it is not perfected in anyway. THere are some ARs with different magwells that accomodate AK mags, but then you have to get a different upper. If you want an AR-15 that shoots 7.62x.39 reliably, it is going to be in the 2,000s. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 and/or .223, that is it.

That actually isn't true. There are companies that make the uppers in 7.62x39, but the affordable ones do not use the AK magazines.

Olympic Arms, Inc.

There are modular lowers if you want to use AK mags, but that's when you get up into the high roller ar's.

About the last statement above also, AR's are available in 9mm, .40, 10mm, .45, .22 lr, .223/5.56, .223wssm, .243wssm, .25wssm, 6.5 grendel, 6.8 Remington, .458 socom, and .50 beowulf, just to name a few of the most common variants.

Anyway, regardless of this, I vote to stick with a .223. If you want to shoot surplus ammo, be sure to get the 5.56 nato chamber as most of the surplus is 5.56 which is slightly hotter than the .223. I think the .223 is a more accurate round, has good power, and costs about the same.

Beer Forever · 02-05-2007, 09:07 PM

I have read into a lot of those really considering it for a while, and a lot of the testimony wasn't that good. The ones that have a mag well adapter and the upper that is designed for the particular set up do much better. I can't think of the company that specializing in that, on the tip of my tongue.

USMC · 02-05-2007, 10:32 PM

I believe Cproducts is getting ready to release a reliable mag for the 7.62x39 that will work in a standard AR15 lower. I have seen one of the Olympic 7.62x39 AR's and it's pretty nice.

This is a pic of me in Washington at the Olympic arms customer appreciation day at the range holding my friends 7.62x39 AR

at4rxj · 02-05-2007, 11:02 PM

How was it as far as accuracy? I would think the .223 would still be much more accurate

tommy · 02-05-2007, 11:24 PM

here's a pic of my bushy m4. i paid right at 900.00 right after the ban died i get my clips from my b-n-law he's in the marines stationed at keelser air force base in miss the scope is a 3x9x40 all together i have like 15 clips for it.i used to have a colt with a 20'' barrel along time ago and after having both believe me colt is just a name.this bushy is every bit as good if not better than my colt a had.

02-04-2007, 01:17 PM	#1
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	overall ar 15 information i might get a lower end ar 15 can any one give me the run down . good rifle for the price diff in the calibers and your personal fav. ? thanks

02-05-2007, 01:29 PM	#9
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	then i would have to put it togeather ? with what diff is that done ? thanks for the help. allso what caliber do you thinks best pred? i own a ak 47 so would it be smart to get a ar 15 with 7.62 rounds? Last edited by knightRider; 02-05-2007 at 01:33 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-05-2007, 03:45 PM	#10
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,360	Here ya go: GunsAmerica - XM15 shorty semis There are some other good deals for new bushmasters there on Gunsamerica too. If you don't mind a used one, you can get a very good one for a very good price. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me

02-05-2007, 04:12 PM	#12
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	You can't really get an AR in 7.62X.39. They make the AR-47, but it is not perfected in anyway. THere are some ARs with different magwells that accomodate AK mags, but then you have to get a different upper. If you want an AR-15 that shoots 7.62x.39 reliably, it is going to be in the 2,000s. The AR-15 is chambered for 5.56 and/or .223, that is it. There are AR-10s, but that is a whole different animal chambered in .308 For 600-750 you can get an olympic, DPMS, Stag, build one, or buy used. AR-15s have gone up so much the later option isn't available like it once was. You will get a better rifle if you build it for that money. I built mine using DPMS lower and upper with a RRA lower parts that had a 2 stage trigger. I think that you should go to AR15.com and do as much research as you can and make an infromed descion based on what you have learned. The A1 is going to be the best bet for you, like it was for me because of cost. I put mine together bare bones for around $750 and after all the mods I have about $1100 into it, at the least. You will save money and learn more about the rifle if yo put it together from a stripped lower, but this requires some mechanical skills that not everyone has, but I think that you could do it no problem. I put mine together and upgraded it piece by piece until it came out how I wanted it to. Now this puppy shoots under 1'' at 100 yards standing with old mil-surp SS109 ammo. __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 02-05-2007 at 08:28 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-05-2007, 09:07 PM	#17
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I have read into a lot of those really considering it for a while, and a lot of the testimony wasn't that good. The ones that have a mag well adapter and the upper that is designed for the particular set up do much better. I can't think of the company that specializing in that, on the tip of my tongue. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

02-04-2007, 01:44 PM	#2
jwhunter Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 61	Well there are definately some guys here that can answer your question with more detail than me, but i am in the process of ordering my first ar and im going with the olympic arms K16. It goes for about 650$ but ive heard some really good feedback on them from several other members here. I've looked around quite a bit and that seems to be about as cheap as they come. Unless of course you build your own but even then the total cost is in the same range. The K16 seems nice, give the post a couple days and you'll have some more info. Good luck

02-04-2007, 02:39 PM	#3
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	thanks . I dont understand the difference in the Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Olympic K16 16" Bull Barrel Rifle Carbine ,Olympic K3B-M4 16" Rifle A2 ,Olympic Plinker Plus A1 Carbine 20, i was looking at the Olympic CAR GI16 Basic Rifle so any info greatly app. i dont want to pay 600 to 800 dollers and not know what im getting into !!!

02-04-2007, 02:55 PM	#4
CrazyIvan Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 2,360	I got my first AR last November. It is a Bushmaster XM-15 Varminter (24" barrel). I can tell you that it is solid. I have shot over 550 rounds now through it and not one misfire, misload, jam or anything; and I am trigger happy. I've been known to fire off 120 rounds as quick as I safely can. It's accurate to boot. Of course, accuracy and no issues has a lot of to do with how well you keep your weapon too. Bushmaster isn't a low-priced brand, but for me, it was well worth the cash. A lot of guys here will say there are other brands as good as Bushmaster for less $$, but I can't say whether that is true or not, because I don't own one. __________________ "Minimum wage, minimum effort." "Never underestimate the power of stupidity." ~Me Last edited by CrazyIvan; 02-04-2007 at 02:58 PM.

02-04-2007, 09:35 PM	#5
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Ok ok ok , hold up. Lets try this from a different angle. First, what is your budget for an AR. Second, what are you wanting out of an AR? Answer these two questions and it will be much easier to give you some advice.

02-05-2007, 12:55 PM	#7
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	I am looking for 600 - 750 . just for an all round rifle great rifle , but mostly for shooting for fun.

02-05-2007, 01:13 PM	#8
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Stag Arms M4 Lower 1/2 - with 6 Position Stock = $255 Stag Arms M4 Chrome Lined, Complete Upper Receiver Assembly With ARMS #40 A2 BUIS = $480 Total = $735 This doesn't include shipping or the transfer fee of course. But your not going to get much cheaper then that unless you buy a used upper. Stag Arms Lower Receivers, Upper Assemblies, Buttstocks and Parts at Eagle Firearms AR15 Online Store

02-05-2007, 04:31 PM	#13
Orlando Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 544	I haven't recieved all the parts yet buy I have right around $700.00 for everything, taxes, shipping. Rock River A2 20 inch barrel.

02-05-2007, 04:55 PM	#14
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,683 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	sweet rifle sks ! Im in no rush to buy cause i got to sell a harley first anyway so ill just read up on them

02-05-2007, 10:32 PM	#18
USMC Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 280	I believe Cproducts is getting ready to release a reliable mag for the 7.62x39 that will work in a standard AR15 lower. I have seen one of the Olympic 7.62x39 AR's and it's pretty nice. This is a pic of me in Washington at the Olympic arms customer appreciation day at the range holding my friends 7.62x39 AR

02-05-2007, 11:02 PM	#19
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	How was it as far as accuracy? I would think the .223 would still be much more accurate

02-05-2007, 11:24 PM	#20
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,031 Images: 6	here's a pic of my bushy m4. i paid right at 900.00 right after the ban died i get my clips from my b-n-law he's in the marines stationed at keelser air force base in miss the scope is a 3x9x40 all together i have like 15 clips for it.i used to have a colt with a 20'' barrel along time ago and after having both believe me colt is just a name.this bushy is every bit as good if not better than my colt a had.