Big Bore AR's ?

bored2bhere · 12-17-2007, 04:04 PM

Any one have any expireince with one ? and if you do what do you think about it ? im interested and dreaming of one in 458 socom or at least an upper in the caliber anyway . let me know please

at4rxj · 12-17-2007, 10:27 PM

My dad and I just built a .50 Beowulf for him. Hasn't been shot yet, but I will post an update when we do.

nathangdad · 12-17-2007, 10:35 PM

Well, the basic AR design has been subject to a phenominal amount of customization. Probably your best path would be to contact custom gunsmiths who either have done modifications or know people doing this type thing.

One point to keep in mind is that the AR design has been around a long time with larger caliber modifications never making a successful penetration into the marketplace.

bored2bhere · 12-18-2007, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by at4rxj

My dad and I just built a .50 Beowulf for him. Hasn't been shot yet, but I will post an update when we do.

please do

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Well, the basic AR design has been subject to a phenominal amount of customization. Probably your best path would be to contact custom gunsmiths who either have done modifications or know people doing this type thing.

One point to keep in mind is that the AR design has been around a long time with larger caliber modifications never making a successful penetration into the marketplace.

true but i wanna one

i do know ll probaly have to reload

samuel · 12-18-2007, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Well, the basic AR design has been subject to a phenominal amount of customization. Probably your best path would be to contact custom gunsmiths who either have done modifications or know people doing this type thing.

One point to keep in mind is that the AR design has been around a long time with larger caliber modifications never making a successful penetration into the marketplace.

Do you know anything about firearm marketing?A wildcat cartridge or custom firearm cant make it into the "market" until some manufacturer starts manufacturing it commercially.That is why we call it a wildcat or custom.No one is manufacturing it commrecially. sam.

Beer Forever · 12-18-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bored2bhere

Any one have any expireince with one ? and if you do what do you think about it ? im interested and dreaming of one in 458 socom or at least an upper in the caliber anyway . let me know please

I have shot a .458 Socom and it was amazing. I had a lot of fun shooting that thing, but I could never own one, every time you pull the trigger it costs you $2.50.

That is why I am going to put together an AR-10.

SilverRun · 12-18-2007, 10:58 AM

I have been looking at the .458 Socom as well - I have the same problem as "Beer Forever" does. Ammo is too dang expensive. Even the brass is expensive. I think I am going to have to stick with the .308 for now. It is an intriguing concept though!

Rock River is now producing a .458 SOCOM AR - maybe the price of ammo will come down as production increases.

bored2bhere · 12-19-2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverRun

I have been looking at the .458 Socom as well - I have the same problem as "Beer Forever" does. Ammo is too dang expensive. Even the brass is expensive. I think I am going to have to stick with the .308 for now. It is an intriguing concept though!

Rock River is now producing a .458 SOCOM AR - maybe the price of ammo will come down as production increases.

i just want an upper not the whole thing
and you are right about the ammo
probaly just have too reload

Beer Forever · 12-21-2007, 10:45 AM

Even reloading the rounds is pricey, but the only feasible way of justifying owning and shooting one.

nathangdad · 12-21-2007, 10:56 AM

I do understand something about marketing. My point is that manufacturers are careful to watch trends developing. Trend analysis is a key factor in the decision as to the probable demand necessary to justify larger production runs. The AR has been customized by many people over time and while this works in a niche market it just has never started a demand trend that would attract a major manufacturer. If someone wants to experiment with the AR design I congratulate the innovative effort. It is just that it would probably be best not to expect an acceptance by the general marketplace.

rogertc1 · 12-21-2007, 01:07 PM

I have a Beowulf .50 upper on a Superior Arms lower. The recoil is really nothing. Ammo expensipe and hard to get. Took 8 months to get everything from AA. Love the gun.
Have a AR pistol and a 16" rifle too.

BATF666 · 12-24-2007, 11:14 AM

Here is my Beowulf on a Tromix lower with a RRA NM trigger. I had Tony Rumore put the Brake on it over a year ago. Got lucky since he is not taking work in till 2009 from what I hear.

I am looking at the RRA SOCOM but I do not want it in a 16" barrel. Also your right Ammo is expensive and I reload 50cal and 338LM and also the 50 Beowulf along with every other caliber I own, which is putting a big dent into my shooting. I am also looking at the Bushmaster 450 which I think will have more velocity out to 200yds then the 50 Beowulf has. I also like the fact you could get the 450 with a 20" barrel.

bored2bhere · 12-24-2007, 11:23 AM

nice rifle

utahvarminter · 12-24-2007, 11:24 AM

heard that people like the .45 Bushmaster, but I may be confusing it with the RRA 458

Beer Forever · 12-25-2007, 10:29 AM

I would want to see what one of those would do to a bear, the .458. I think that will stop just about anything.

bored2bhere · 12-26-2007, 05:00 PM

probaly will

at4rxj · 03-09-2008, 05:39 PM

I know this is an old thread, but I finally got around to taking pics and shooting this .50 Beowulf...

It's loud, and has a sharp kick to it. We're going to change out the A2 stock for something a little more forgiving. The Eotech is nice with this. I haven't shot for grouping or even sighted it in, but just plinking around, it does 1 shot 1/2" groups.

sorry, I had to. lol

LiveToShoot · 03-09-2008, 06:35 PM

I've had my eyes on the 450 Bushmaster ever since it was introduced, and hope to save up enough to buy one. The larger caliber AR option really gets my attention.

It's good to read posts about others who own, and want to own, larger caliber ARs.

Thanks for pics of the Beowulf, which causes me to wonder if the 450 Bushmaster is what I'll settle for in a large caliber AR...

billt · 03-10-2008, 02:18 PM

Bushmaster is listing a .50 Browning in their latest catalog. Bill T.

Kaboom · 03-23-2008, 07:23 PM

I know I'm a little slow on this thread but I bought a 450 Bushmaster in Jan. for a hi-power deer season in Iowa (doe only). Slapped a cheap red dot on it and went hunting. I love it (16" version) short, light, and swings great on running targets. killed 3 does, a big doe on a dead run killed with on shot was dead before she slid to a stop, second dropped where she stood @ 100 yards. 3rd was a sloppy shot on my part (spined) and had to use a second. Recoil is less than my 20 ga. semi auto & with 3 5 round clips I have plenty of shells. My new favorite deer gun!!!

12-17-2007, 04:04 PM	#1
bored2bhere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 402 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 3	Big Bore AR's ? Any one have any expireince with one ? and if you do what do you think about it ? im interested and dreaming of one in 458 socom or at least an upper in the caliber anyway . let me know please __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war"-Apolos

12-17-2007, 10:35 PM	#3
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,501	AR experimentation Well, the basic AR design has been subject to a phenominal amount of customization. Probably your best path would be to contact custom gunsmiths who either have done modifications or know people doing this type thing. One point to keep in mind is that the AR design has been around a long time with larger caliber modifications never making a successful penetration into the marketplace.

12-21-2007, 10:45 AM	#9
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	Even reloading the rounds is pricey, but the only feasible way of justifying owning and shooting one. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

12-24-2007, 11:23 AM	#13
bored2bhere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 402 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 3	nice rifle __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war"-Apolos

12-24-2007, 11:24 AM	#14
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	heard that people like the .45 Bushmaster, but I may be confusing it with the RRA 458 __________________ My Photo Album

12-17-2007, 10:27 PM	#2
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	My dad and I just built a .50 Beowulf for him. Hasn't been shot yet, but I will post an update when we do.

12-18-2007, 10:58 AM	#7
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	I have been looking at the .458 Socom as well - I have the same problem as "Beer Forever" does. Ammo is too dang expensive. Even the brass is expensive. I think I am going to have to stick with the .308 for now. It is an intriguing concept though! Rock River is now producing a .458 SOCOM AR - maybe the price of ammo will come down as production increases.

12-21-2007, 10:56 AM	#10
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,501	I do understand something about marketing. My point is that manufacturers are careful to watch trends developing. Trend analysis is a key factor in the decision as to the probable demand necessary to justify larger production runs. The AR has been customized by many people over time and while this works in a niche market it just has never started a demand trend that would attract a major manufacturer. If someone wants to experiment with the AR design I congratulate the innovative effort. It is just that it would probably be best not to expect an acceptance by the general marketplace.

12-21-2007, 01:07 PM	#11
rogertc1 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 7	I have a Beowulf .50 upper on a Superior Arms lower. The recoil is really nothing. Ammo expensipe and hard to get. Took 8 months to get everything from AA. Love the gun. Have a AR pistol and a 16" rifle too.

12-24-2007, 11:14 AM	#12
BATF666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NY Posts: 7	Here is my Beowulf on a Tromix lower with a RRA NM trigger. I had Tony Rumore put the Brake on it over a year ago. Got lucky since he is not taking work in till 2009 from what I hear. I am looking at the RRA SOCOM but I do not want it in a 16" barrel. Also your right Ammo is expensive and I reload 50cal and 338LM and also the 50 Beowulf along with every other caliber I own, which is putting a big dent into my shooting. I am also looking at the Bushmaster 450 which I think will have more velocity out to 200yds then the 50 Beowulf has. I also like the fact you could get the 450 with a 20" barrel.

12-25-2007, 10:29 AM	#15
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I would want to see what one of those would do to a bear, the .458. I think that will stop just about anything. __________________ Paramedic sks forever

12-26-2007, 05:00 PM	#16
bored2bhere Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 402 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 3	probaly will __________________ "Only the dead have seen the end of war"-Apolos

03-09-2008, 05:39 PM	#17
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	I know this is an old thread, but I finally got around to taking pics and shooting this .50 Beowulf... It's loud, and has a sharp kick to it. We're going to change out the A2 stock for something a little more forgiving. The Eotech is nice with this. I haven't shot for grouping or even sighted it in, but just plinking around, it does 1 shot 1/2" groups. sorry, I had to. lol

03-09-2008, 06:35 PM	#18
LiveToShoot Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northwest USA Posts: 2,071	I've had my eyes on the 450 Bushmaster ever since it was introduced, and hope to save up enough to buy one. The larger caliber AR option really gets my attention. It's good to read posts about others who own, and want to own, larger caliber ARs. Thanks for pics of the Beowulf, which causes me to wonder if the 450 Bushmaster is what I'll settle for in a large caliber AR... __________________ "Happiness is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it." -Unknown

03-10-2008, 02:18 PM	#19
billt Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 161	Bushmaster is listing a .50 Browning in their latest catalog. Bill T.

03-23-2008, 07:23 PM	#20
Kaboom Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cental Iowa Posts: 26	I know I'm a little slow on this thread but I bought a 450 Bushmaster in Jan. for a hi-power deer season in Iowa (doe only). Slapped a cheap red dot on it and went hunting. I love it (16" version) short, light, and swings great on running targets. killed 3 does, a big doe on a dead run killed with on shot was dead before she slid to a stop, second dropped where she stood @ 100 yards. 3rd was a sloppy shot on my part (spined) and had to use a second. Recoil is less than my 20 ga. semi auto & with 3 5 round clips I have plenty of shells. My new favorite deer gun!!!