Help! Where can i keep my AR?

[twisterx44]

Hey all, new to this forum but not to the firearms scene in any way. I am going to be 18 in less than a month and the first thing i am planning on doing is purchasing a RRA Tactical CAR a4. I'm not asking for advice on which company's AR i should buy, ive done all my research on that already. The problem is my parents don't want the gun in the house. I have to respect that right since i live with them, but i still want to be able to buy the AR since it's been a dream of mine for quite some time. My parents agreed that if i could find a place to store it on the weekdays i could have it at home to clean and fidget with (and of course take to the range) on the weekends. The problem is, where i live (Portland, Oregon) there is no public gun storage whatsoever. None of the gun ranges i go to know of any way to do it either. Sure, there is normal "public storage" but i dont need a 5' X 5' box for a single rifle, and i was told you sign a waiver saying you won't store firearms in the storage unit. So i am really stuck as to how i can find a "home" for it during the weekdays. Any ideas? thanks in advance!

[GlockMeister]

My advice, hold off on your purchase. If you store it somewhere out of your control, and it gets stolen, you could be held responsible for any crime or murder committed with it.
secondly, since you seem intelligent enough to research your purchase first and thoroughly , might I also suggest you use that same intelligence and wait until you have a place of your own or a SAFE,secure place to store it.
Lastly, have you asked you parents if they'd reconsider if you first purchased a SAFE to keep it in? That's my thoughts on it without being condemning. That's all I can say about that. I won't be a parent or adult towards you as you seem to already have that going on. lol

G_Meister

[twisterx44]

Yeah that's what some people have told me. And yes, i asked if they would consider it if i bought a safe with it, they seemed so consider it a little but the eventual answer was no. I mean they have right to a firearm-free household, I'm not agruing that by any means. It's just hard to let go of litteraly a childhood dream because of a little roadblock. I mean i guess it's not little but I am usually not one to give up. Well thanks anyways...anyone have any other ideas?

[ArkansasHunter]

Do this feller sit down with your Parents and ask if they wouldn't be opposed to haveing the Gun in the house as long as you didn't have any Ammo for it.
Your 18 years old and prolly driveing a car by now.
So I'm recommending you leave the ammo at a friend or relatives house.
When you go to shoot it go to where the ammo is kept.

If that didn't work see if you can get alone with your Dad and discuss the situation with him.
See if he'll agree to haveing the gun in the house if it's kept in one of those lockable gun case's.

Good Luck...A.H

[damage855]

What exactly are there concerns of it beign in the house? are they just scared of guns? dont think your ready for one afraid of it beign stolen ect? respectfully ask these questions and you may be able to come up with a solution to meet everones satisfaction.

[twisterx44]

ArkansasHunter, my original proposition including no ammunition in the house, and a lockable hardcase and an action lock for the gun. Damage855, we've had these talks already, my dad is ex-military and now almost anti gun. We shoot all the time with other people but he says he doesnt see the point in owning an assault rifle because it was designed to kill people. My mom just feels uncomfortable knowing there is a lethal weapon in her house, and that if people ask if we have a gun, she wouldnt be able to say "no." She also reads about all the accidents that occur with improper gun storage, and as many times as i try to explain that those accidents happen due to negligence, she insists (and does have a point) that as soon as the gun enters the house, it's a little out of our control. Not completely, but it "unneccesarily raises risks in the household". I mean they are all valid agruements, I just really wish there was a way to convince them. I've talked to them long and hard about proper gun safety, i am an avid believer of proper gun storage and firearm safety and they know that but it seems they really just dont want to budge, even when they know it's been a dream of mine since i was like 13.

[Beer Forever]

If you live with your parents and they don't want you to own a gun you should respect their wishes. When you move out you can own all the guns you want.

[GlockMeister]

If you can afford a new RRA, why then can't you afford a place of your own? Maybe you should get a place of your own first. I know and can totally relate to your passion. We all have that same passion. The only difference is we are, well a majority of us our on our own.
Have you offered taking a gun safety course? Ask them what if you also did that. And it is too bad your dad has changed from his back ground. I wonder if maybe he didn't see one too many deaths during his military stay? I sincerely hope you can find a safe and responsible way and get this issue resolved in your favor.

Again, it would seem the best way would to be get out on your own...
By the way, what about a local gun shop? Might they be able to store it for you? Ask if you pay a fee and offer to throw in maybe doing odd jobs for them? You never know? Just trying to offer any and all possible solutions.

G_Meister

[twisterx44]

Beer Forever,

I am aware of this however its hard to watch dreams slip through my fingers, i am almost positive they are on the verge of considering it i just don't know how to go about finding the right thing to say. Besides, i was originally asking how to find a place to store it outside of the home as to avoid they're discomfort altogether.

Storing it out of the home, at least on weekdays, is my only real solution right now. I just dont know of any service that will legally (and safely) store firearms.

Glock Meister,

I am going to college after the summer so getting my own place is immpractical. I don't have bad relations with my parents, so why would i turn down free room and board? I have 1k saved up but i dont work enough to pay rent anywhere besides a cardboard box. The money i have for my RRA has been saved for quite some time. I earn maybe 650.00 a month. Moving out is not only impractical but uneccasary. The gun shop idea, however, isn't a bad one. I may need to look into that. The hard thing is that since i am a minor for another 20 some days, some people won't even talk to me about it so I find it hard to do research. I'll give that a try though, one of my friends lives a block away from a gun shop, perhaps ill ask them about it.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by twisterx44

Beer Forever,

I am aware of this however its hard to watch dreams slip through my fingers, i am almost positive they are on the verge of considering it i just don't know how to go about finding the right thing to say. Besides, i was originally asking how to find a place to store it outside of the home as to avoid they're discomfort altogether.

Storing it out of the home, at least on weekdays, is my only real solution right now. I just dont know of any service that will legally (and safely) store firearms.

Your 18, trust me, many dreams will slip through your fingers.
Just remember, if you store it somewhere else, out of your control, and it gets stolen, you're not only out of a gun, you could possibly end up responsible for anything that is done with it. I guess you could bring that up to your parents.
How about this, you definately seem to think I'm responsible enough to own it, just not responsible enough to take responsibility for it. Since you are willing to let me get one, how would you fell if I keep it somewhere else, where I have no control, and it gets stolen and something terrible was to happen? At least if it is kept here, that chance is greatly reduced? A thought?

I'm sorry, I completely understand your dilemma, I truly do. But please, consider how irresponsible it would be if you found a place to store it outside of the house and something terrible happened?

G-Meister

[Powderman]

I'll echo the thoughts of others on this board. What it boils down to is two things:

1: Their house, their rules. Full stop.
2: Since you are now legally an adult, you need to get to a position where you can provide for yourself, as soon as possible.

So, what does this mean?

First of all, there are many ways to achieve your goal of going to college. Of course, there is the "full time attendance" option. Your choice, of course. But know that a LOT of time in a full-time attendance school is spent in transit time, and filler time--where the subject is adequately covered but you have to do SOMETHING to justify the class time.

You can attend school part time, and get a job. Or, you can attend full time, and get a part time job. Either way will provide cash flow--which you will need to get an APARTMENT of your own, OFF CAMPUS, where you can keep your firearms.

Another option is on-line schooling and a full time job. There are accredited universities--Kaplan and U. of Phoenix, to name two of them--where you can complete a B.A., from start to finish, ON LINE. I'll tell you right now, it's NOT easy in the least!!! As a matter of fact, going to the school and attending is MUCH easier.

But, if your time is at a premium, and you don't want to wait an extra four years or so to start to work for yourself, it is a valuable option.

Finally, consider the military. For a few years service, you have your education, paid for, with benefits--and you'll be earning money that you can save while you're at it.

At any rate, when you get to where you want to be--on your own--do NOT scrimp.

GET A GUN SAFE. A full-on gun safe, by the way, with a combination lock. There are some that are just the right size to fit into a closet, where you can close the door and no one will be the wiser. GET A GUN SAFE!!

Good luck, whatever way you choose.

[stitchclimber]

Twister, allow me to offer a slightly different solution. I don't know where in Portland you live. But I live in North Portland, in St. Johns, off of Lombard. IF you really needed a place to store it I'm sure we could work something out. Plus I wouldn't mind a buddy to go to the range with me know and then. Send me PM.

[Shaun]

Thanks for the Plug Powderman I teach for Univ of Phoenix and I can tell you that the education will work best for someone who is working to be able to apply the knowledge. Now the nice thing is that as a hiring manager I look at those with degree's from UOP with greater interest as the school requires more of a commitment and also it does not involved alcohol and dorms. It's a good choice and depending on Twisterx4x4's goals it could meet his needs.

[jashoffa]

What about keeping it broke down? Perhaps keeping the upper in one part of the house and the lower in another part? Just a thought.

[LarryO1970]

That's a great idea jashoffa ... I would hope that common sense overrides fear of a gun in the house when it is not more than a simple "machined" part of metal incapable of hurting anyone more than a kitchen knife.

[MembraneShock]

I am also having this same problem, but I live in an inner city, where break ins happen alot and I just decided that it'd be wise to just wait until I get on my own, because you cannot compromise your families comfort to achieve a goal of yours. No goal is worth your mother worrying her head off.

[Wingwiper]

Check with your Local State Police Barracks and explain the situation, they may be more than willing to share a vault.

[NRAJOE]

Um, if your 18 get your own place...at 17 I was in the Army stationed in Germany.....

[stitchclimber]

Hey lay off. He can't help it if he's young. I was still very much in high school when I was 18. I believe he is as well. YES he should cut the cord and move on soon, but jeez let him finish high school.

[DrHeat]

I read some of the replies and I have to agree. You need to respect your parents wishes. One, consider the gun safe approach and then break down the rifle, and store the bolt in a safe deposit box, etc. Good luck and I like your attitude.