DPMS Illegal

Doctor Larry K · 01-17-2008, 08:32 AM

I just learned the AR15 I got as a present for Christmas is illegal in California. I got the info from two reputable gun shops, one specializing in AR15s.
What can I do besides stashing the rifle until a SHTF situation occcurs. My rifle is a DPMS in .223.

PS I just bought two 5 round magazines...would they bring the AR into compliance?

What a bunch of BS.

Doc

Pred · 01-17-2008, 08:35 AM

First we need to know what type of rifle it is. M4? Post ban, pre ban? Fixed stock, collapsible stock? Bayonet lug? Flash hider? Is it permanently attached?

ArkansasHunter · 01-17-2008, 08:53 AM

I hope the folks at the Gun shops are good friends DOC and don't run there mouths !

I've got an idea send it to me LOL I'll take good care of it for you. Or better yet move to Arkansas

...A.H

lefty o · 01-17-2008, 09:08 AM

move out of the communist state of california- there is no other option.

SilverRun · 01-17-2008, 09:13 AM

You may want to get that to a friend out of state - soon!

Doctor Larry K · 01-17-2008, 09:17 AM

AH. The folks at the gun shops don't know who I am or where I live. I just phoned them about putting better sights on the gun. The gun has never been fired.

Pred,
Collapsible stock, no flash hider, post ban, no bayonet lug. I don't know anything about the AR15, and really didn't want it to begin with. I'm a pistol guy.

Doc

Pred · 01-17-2008, 09:28 AM

Here's the deal. I'm no expert when it comes to AR laws in your state. But I'm thinking that in order to keep the pistol grip/collapsible stock you have to buy a kit that will "fix" the mag in place. Meaning that to load the gun you have to break it open and load it by hand/with stripper clips. Now, if you want to have a removable mag you have to buy a stock that is a single piece for the stock and grip. Look up Calif. AR stock and see what you can find. Looks something like this:

SilverRun · 01-17-2008, 09:39 AM

This link may help - good luck.

NSSF

tommy · 01-17-2008, 09:49 AM

how did they get you the gun in the first place ?did they buy it from a shop in cali? or did they drive it in thier self?

ArkansasHunter · 01-17-2008, 09:55 AM

Hi tommy and a good question, I'd like to know too.

Mooseman684 · 01-17-2008, 10:03 AM

Doc, I wonder if it was one that was "Registered" as California law required, when the Ban went into effect .
Rich

tommy · 01-17-2008, 10:09 AM

good point it could already be legal did cali ban them after the 94,ban? because he said his doesn't have a bayo lugso that would make it a post-ban/pre-caliban. i know there are some cops in here run the numbers thats a good way to find out where's oneastrix? he still a cop?

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Doc, I wonder if it was one that was "Registered" as California law required, when the Ban went into effect .
Rich

.22guy · 01-17-2008, 01:23 PM

Check out calguns.net.

I don't remember off hand any DPMS lower receivers on the "assault weapons" list. It must be banned by name. But you must also be sure not to have it configured as an assault weapon, such as a pistol grip and a push button detachable mag.

You can have a mag-lock or bullet button and all the "evil" features you want, or a featureless build with regular push button dropped mags.

As I said, check out calguns.net for all the info.

tommy · 01-17-2008, 01:57 PM

i found this while lookin around i guess this is how it all started in cali . seems like it could spread across the country

http://www.socsci.uci.edu/lawforum/c...kazalbasch.pdf

Doctor Larry K · 01-17-2008, 02:30 PM

Problem solved. I have a buddy visiting from Grand Prarie, Texas. He is taking the AR with him back to Texas. Glad its out of my home. Now I can buy another 1911A1 for my collection.

Doc

SilverRun · 01-17-2008, 02:51 PM

That works - too bad you live in CA. AR's are nice rifles and lots of fun. Maybe you can go visit your buddy in Texas and play with it there!

.22guy · 01-17-2008, 02:54 PM

I looked it up, the only DPMS listed on the Robert Roos assault weapon list are the Panther series. If it's not a Panther series receiver, you should be fine.

at4rxj · 01-17-2008, 04:31 PM

Texas to the rescue!

jmp8927 · 01-17-2008, 05:04 PM

If you don't want it, I'll take it!

johnsi4 · 01-18-2008, 09:41 AM

seems like im not the only one dealing with legal issues. welcome to the communist states of new jersey and california

01-17-2008, 08:32 AM	#1
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	DPMS Illegal I just learned the AR15 I got as a present for Christmas is illegal in California. I got the info from two reputable gun shops, one specializing in AR15s. What can I do besides stashing the rifle until a SHTF situation occcurs. My rifle is a DPMS in .223. PS I just bought two 5 round magazines...would they bring the AR into compliance? What a bunch of BS. Doc

01-17-2008, 09:49 AM	#9
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,031 Images: 6	how did they get you the gun in the first place ?did they buy it from a shop in cali? or did they drive it in thier self? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-17-2008, 10:03 AM	#11
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,674 Images: 2	Doc, I wonder if it was one that was "Registered" as California law required, when the Ban went into effect . Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-17-2008, 01:23 PM	#13
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,157	Check out calguns.net. I don't remember off hand any DPMS lower receivers on the "assault weapons" list. It must be banned by name. But you must also be sure not to have it configured as an assault weapon, such as a pistol grip and a push button detachable mag. You can have a mag-lock or bullet button and all the "evil" features you want, or a featureless build with regular push button dropped mags. As I said, check out calguns.net for all the info. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

01-17-2008, 01:57 PM	#14
tommy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: schriever la Posts: 4,031 Images: 6	i found this while lookin around i guess this is how it all started in cali . seems like it could spread across the country http://www.socsci.uci.edu/lawforum/c...kazalbasch.pdf __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-17-2008, 08:35 AM	#2
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	First we need to know what type of rifle it is. M4? Post ban, pre ban? Fixed stock, collapsible stock? Bayonet lug? Flash hider? Is it permanently attached?

01-17-2008, 08:53 AM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,709	I hope the folks at the Gun shops are good friends DOC and don't run there mouths ! I've got an idea send it to me LOL I'll take good care of it for you. Or better yet move to Arkansas ...A.H

01-17-2008, 09:08 AM	#4
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	move out of the communist state of california- there is no other option.

01-17-2008, 09:13 AM	#5
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	You may want to get that to a friend out of state - soon!

01-17-2008, 09:17 AM	#6
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	AH. The folks at the gun shops don't know who I am or where I live. I just phoned them about putting better sights on the gun. The gun has never been fired. Pred, Collapsible stock, no flash hider, post ban, no bayonet lug. I don't know anything about the AR15, and really didn't want it to begin with. I'm a pistol guy. Doc

01-17-2008, 09:28 AM	#7
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Here's the deal. I'm no expert when it comes to AR laws in your state. But I'm thinking that in order to keep the pistol grip/collapsible stock you have to buy a kit that will "fix" the mag in place. Meaning that to load the gun you have to break it open and load it by hand/with stripper clips. Now, if you want to have a removable mag you have to buy a stock that is a single piece for the stock and grip. Look up Calif. AR stock and see what you can find. Looks something like this:

01-17-2008, 09:39 AM	#8
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	This link may help - good luck. NSSF

01-17-2008, 09:55 AM	#10
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,709	Hi tommy and a good question, I'd like to know too.

01-17-2008, 02:30 PM	#15
Doctor Larry K Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palm Springs, Calif. Posts: 427	Problem solved. I have a buddy visiting from Grand Prarie, Texas. He is taking the AR with him back to Texas. Glad its out of my home. Now I can buy another 1911A1 for my collection. Doc

01-17-2008, 02:51 PM	#16
SilverRun Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: AL Posts: 1,661	That works - too bad you live in CA. AR's are nice rifles and lots of fun. Maybe you can go visit your buddy in Texas and play with it there!

01-17-2008, 02:54 PM	#17
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,157	I looked it up, the only DPMS listed on the Robert Roos assault weapon list are the Panther series. If it's not a Panther series receiver, you should be fine. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

01-17-2008, 04:31 PM	#18
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	Texas to the rescue!

01-17-2008, 05:04 PM	#19
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,145 Images: 17	If you don't want it, I'll take it! __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

01-18-2008, 09:41 AM	#20
johnsi4 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: friggin jersey Posts: 11	seems like im not the only one dealing with legal issues. welcome to the communist states of new jersey and california