ar-15 build - Page 3

Pred · 07-15-2008, 10:23 AM

Century is one of those companies that you either get really lucky with, or get total crap. My advice would be to build one yourself, or go with something like Stag or RRA.

wunhunglo · 07-15-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pred

Uh huh... so exactly how are you going to hit a melon at 200 yards with an unstable bullet? In all honestly, all your posts are doing is giving Jack more to read that do nothing to help him out.

Hey Pred, you're the one who started the bit about Zombies.
Where do the shooting melons at 200 yards with unstable bullets come into it???

I gave my views on Chrome plating, to my mind a waste of my money and a civilian rifle would probably never benefit from it.

As for a 1 in 7, maybe, but I'd tend to settle for a 1 in 8 if he does not intend to get too serious and use it for long range stuff. The 1 in 8 will handle all common ammo up to & including the 75-80gn stuff. My own 1 in 8 gives excellent performance up to 600m with 75-80 gn bullets.

If it's his first AR, I would tend to keep it sort of stock by getting a 20" barrelled Hbar, A2. Again my opinion.

Jack75 · 07-15-2008, 10:28 AM

thats what im going to do but later down the road yah know

Pred · 07-15-2008, 10:41 AM

Jack, if you've got any questions just send me a PM. I forgot that "certain" people take everything I say literally.

Jack75 · 07-15-2008, 12:41 PM

wunhunglo you can neverbe too careful

wunhunglo · 07-15-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack75

wunhunglo you can neverbe too careful

Yep, but again, sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns & get stuck in.

Honestly, if I was thinking of spending $650-700 on an A2, 20", Hbar AR15 I would spend the extra $100 and buy one from the likes of Fulton Armory (I am biased toward them) with full warranty and guaranteed to shoot at least 1moa!
What comeback do you have if you build a bitsa?

Have a safe day,

Jack75 · 07-15-2008, 08:23 PM

so youl spend an extra 100 bucks for a warranty but not 50 for a barrel that will last and not warp under fire. wow got some priority issues

Pred · 07-15-2008, 09:29 PM

You don't have a full auto, nor do you live in the jungle, a chrome lined barrel won't do you much good for a plinker. Spending an extra $50 on optics wouldn't be a bad thing in your case.

Redbeernuts · 07-16-2008, 02:10 AM

I go chrome because whats an extra 45$. Its just the way I do it. If for some reason I do have to go into battle with my rifle I think it would help. Lucky for me the department I work for affords me a Glock17 and a mini 14, WOO HOO. Don't get me wrong you could still handle your business with them but I have seen more jams out of the mini than I have ever had from my AR. And better accuracy from my AR. Maybe its the chrome lining not allowing the gun to heat up or Maybe its just the rifle. thats really the only comparison I have, other than my Armalite AR that is not chrome lined but I can't seem to get it away from my son to shoot it.

Pred · 07-16-2008, 07:09 AM

Ok, I'm going to point something out. The amount of ammo you would have to go through to wear out a barrel, at todays prices, I've got a feeling a few hundred for a new upper really shouldn't be that big of a concern.... If you want a chrome lined barrel, go ahead, it's not going to hurt anything. If you don't, cool, your not going to wear it out within the first 30 days.

Jack75 · 07-16-2008, 08:55 AM

thats the way i feel do i need one probably not but i think im still going to invest in the chrome just so i lasts longer

wunhunglo · 07-17-2008, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack75

so youl spend an extra 100 bucks for a warranty but not 50 for a barrel that will last and not warp under fire. wow got some priority issues

Jack......Not quite, My primary priority when I boaught my AR was for a target grade rifle. I would (and did) spend the extra bucks making sure I got a good quality firearm, from a company with a quality reputation rather than try & build a bitsa with no guarantee of the final outcome.
But I will qualify that, I now have a very accurate rifle which I use for target shooting at ranges up to 600m, however I would also consider building another just to see if I could put one together which matched what I have already.

To my mind, chrome plating does nothing to enhance accuracy and can, if & when worn, actually drastically reduce accuracy.
I also do not believe that a few microns of chrome plating is going to do anything to pervent a barrel "warping" under fire. if such a thing is likely, which I doubt!

Have a nice day.

Redbeernuts · 07-19-2008, 01:14 AM

Wunhunglo, If your target shooting 600m Im with you on that "no chrome". Alot of us don't do that. I don't make it past 150m with mine but I also shoot iron sights with my ARs. I think there are some advantages to chrome. I'm more of a SHTF/plinker (if that makes any sense) with mine and I figure what the heck It might be to my advantage to have the chrome lining But It probably isn't needed. Ill still do it anyway.

wunhunglo · 07-19-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Redbeernuts

Wunhunglo, If your target shooting 600m Im with you on that "no chrome". Alot of us don't do that. I don't make it past 150m with mine but I also shoot iron sights with my ARs. I think there are some advantages to chrome. I'm more of a SHTF/plinker (if that makes any sense) with mine and I figure what the heck It might be to my advantage to have the chrome lining But It probably isn't needed. Ill still do it anyway.

We tend to shoot most "Service Rifle" competitions out to 600m with iron sights. My AR & M14 both have the NM sights. Scopes are for fun and the occasional "F" class event.

As I say, your gun, your opinion, your choice. If I thought it merited it, I also would have chosen Chrome plating.

Big Tool · 07-23-2008, 01:35 PM

I keep searching around trying to figure out how building a rifle saves so much money, but I have't seen one that can be built for under 600. I may be missing something, but.

Lower 100
lower parts kit 50
stock 50-150
Upper 350-infinity

If you do everything as cheap as possible you are still looking at 550.00, but you have to consider paying shipping on all the individual parts which will bring the total to about 600.00, you still have to buy magazines, sling, and other goodies.

Why not buy this rig from atlantic for 599.00 which includes the mag, sling, hardcase, and a lifetime warranty.
Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices.

My next Ar-15 i will proboably build not trying to save money, but to have everything done to my specs which will cost alot more.

Redbeernuts · 07-23-2008, 05:21 PM

For me, I like the build. You know, being able to look at what I've done. My job doesn't give me that satifaction. This does.

Redbeernuts · 07-23-2008, 05:23 PM

And, if you dont have all that money to spend at once! I agree though, it does not save much money.

07-15-2008, 10:23 AM	#41
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Century is one of those companies that you either get really lucky with, or get total crap. My advice would be to build one yourself, or go with something like Stag or RRA.

07-15-2008, 10:28 AM	#43
Jack75 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New york Posts: 59	thats what im going to do but later down the road yah know

07-15-2008, 10:41 AM	#44
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Jack, if you've got any questions just send me a PM. I forgot that "certain" people take everything I say literally.

07-15-2008, 12:41 PM	#45
Jack75 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New york Posts: 59	wunhunglo you can neverbe too careful

07-15-2008, 08:23 PM	#47
Jack75 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New york Posts: 59	so youl spend an extra 100 bucks for a warranty but not 50 for a barrel that will last and not warp under fire. wow got some priority issues

07-15-2008, 09:29 PM	#48
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	You don't have a full auto, nor do you live in the jungle, a chrome lined barrel won't do you much good for a plinker. Spending an extra $50 on optics wouldn't be a bad thing in your case.

07-16-2008, 02:10 AM	#49
Redbeernuts Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309	I go chrome because whats an extra 45$. Its just the way I do it. If for some reason I do have to go into battle with my rifle I think it would help. Lucky for me the department I work for affords me a Glock17 and a mini 14, WOO HOO. Don't get me wrong you could still handle your business with them but I have seen more jams out of the mini than I have ever had from my AR. And better accuracy from my AR. Maybe its the chrome lining not allowing the gun to heat up or Maybe its just the rifle. thats really the only comparison I have, other than my Armalite AR that is not chrome lined but I can't seem to get it away from my son to shoot it.

07-16-2008, 07:09 AM	#50
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	Ok, I'm going to point something out. The amount of ammo you would have to go through to wear out a barrel, at todays prices, I've got a feeling a few hundred for a new upper really shouldn't be that big of a concern.... If you want a chrome lined barrel, go ahead, it's not going to hurt anything. If you don't, cool, your not going to wear it out within the first 30 days.

07-16-2008, 08:55 AM	#51
Jack75 Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New york Posts: 59	thats the way i feel do i need one probably not but i think im still going to invest in the chrome just so i lasts longer

07-19-2008, 01:14 AM	#53
Redbeernuts Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309	Wunhunglo, If your target shooting 600m Im with you on that "no chrome". Alot of us don't do that. I don't make it past 150m with mine but I also shoot iron sights with my ARs. I think there are some advantages to chrome. I'm more of a SHTF/plinker (if that makes any sense) with mine and I figure what the heck It might be to my advantage to have the chrome lining But It probably isn't needed. Ill still do it anyway.

07-23-2008, 01:35 PM	#55
Big Tool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: MS Posts: 602	I keep searching around trying to figure out how building a rifle saves so much money, but I have't seen one that can be built for under 600. I may be missing something, but. Lower 100 lower parts kit 50 stock 50-150 Upper 350-infinity If you do everything as cheap as possible you are still looking at 550.00, but you have to consider paying shipping on all the individual parts which will bring the total to about 600.00, you still have to buy magazines, sling, and other goodies. Why not buy this rig from atlantic for 599.00 which includes the mag, sling, hardcase, and a lifetime warranty. Atlantic firearms - AR15 & AK47 rifles - Olympic arms at wholesale prices. My next Ar-15 i will proboably build not trying to save money, but to have everything done to my specs which will cost alot more.

07-23-2008, 05:21 PM	#56
Redbeernuts Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309	For me, I like the build. You know, being able to look at what I've done. My job doesn't give me that satifaction. This does.

07-23-2008, 05:23 PM	#57
Redbeernuts Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309	And, if you dont have all that money to spend at once! I agree though, it does not save much money.