Need help. I seen a very early Bushmaster #709

Stock Doc · 03-21-2002, 10:23 PM

I seen a Bushmaster serial 709 and it had wooden stocks on it. Darn thing resembled a AR-15 but had a llot of different machine work. What was this? When did they make it? Was it a home version? The serial number was on the upper receiver also. Maybe one day I can get a photo of it I stopped in teh shop I go to and a regualr was there with it. Thanks,,RIck B

JIMM · 03-28-2002, 09:45 PM

stockdoc are you lost this isn't the m1 page. when you get back over ther I might have a question for you.

Stock Doc · 03-28-2002, 10:57 PM

Hey stop that hehehehe. I am surprised no one knows about this weird looking M16 or Ar-15 prototype? I guess I will have to get the guy to let me take some pictures. I know that will peak interest's.
Jimm by the way I own many rifles and frequesnt many boards which can be hard to remember when and where I posted sometimes. I think the linseed oil and alcohol stains are part of that problem hahahahahah Rick B

BattleRifleG3 · 03-29-2002, 02:54 PM

Does it have a folding stock? I think that's something called the Bushmaster Assault Rifle, which was made using surplus M16 parts back when that was legal. Everything that's not M16 is Bushmaster. Not too familiar with it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's not a prototype M16.

DANA · 03-29-2002, 09:23 PM

THE ORIGINAL BUSHMASTERS ALSO CAME IN A PISTOL FORM. THE RECIEVER ROTATES ABOUT 45 DEG EITHER SIDE OF VERTICLE. HAS SHEET METAL SIGHTS. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY AT SHOWS FOR YEARS. HAS A GREAT FEEL JUST THE SAME.
DANA

tarheel · 03-29-2002, 09:46 PM

I remember those. The last one I saw was in a 1987 Guns and Ammo Buyer's Guide. Boy how things have changed.

BattleRifleG3 · 03-30-2002, 02:23 PM

I've seen a Bushmaster pistol for 800ish at the PAGC gun show, but the new ones won't allow them. Personally, I think they're way too friggin big. It's a bullpup configuration and looked like a rifle except for the lack of a decent handguard, barrel, or buttstock. Oh well, to each his own.

DANA · 03-31-2002, 09:16 AM

RUMOR WAS THE AIRFORCE LOOKED AT THEM BUT NEVER BOUGHT. IT STILL LOOKS GOOD AS PART OF A COLLECTION . AS YOU SAY IT IS A FORM OF A BULL PUP AND OVER LARGE FOR A PISTOL. HOWEVER THE PISTOL VERSIONS OF THE M15 ARE NOT MUCH BETER

Stock Doc · 04-08-2002, 08:13 PM

This looked almost Identical in all aspects except cruder. The wooden stock was cut a bit differnet kind of like kids blocks. The upper recevier had the serial numbers on it and was more sqaure. I wished I took some photos and still will try to get him to bring it back to hte shop for photo's. It was neat and differnt. Rick B

rhavindog · 05-02-2008, 02:41 PM

I have #309 (first "batch" with all the design problems.)
This is a fun gun to shoot. its the companion rifle for the "armpistol" bullpup. it uses all m16 internals (presumably military takeoffs) including a very early m16 bolt with NO gas rings. a stamped sheet upper like an ak with a milled aluminum lower like an ar. it is pistol driven with the return springs mounted over the piston. mine is a folding stock. Ive fixed many design errors...the left folding stock with a left charging handle was a nice one,its now a right side folder....shortened the barrel (will soon be an sbr, but 16.25 inches for now) new style gas block etc. fun gun with little or no recoil with hot "wolf" ammo (the chamber is horrible so it gets crap ammo....the ar gets the handloads) but was worth the 200 my wife spent on it for my b-day

03-21-2002, 10:23 PM	#1
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 838	Need help. I seen a very early Bushmaster #709 I seen a Bushmaster serial 709 and it had wooden stocks on it. Darn thing resembled a AR-15 but had a llot of different machine work. What was this? When did they make it? Was it a home version? The serial number was on the upper receiver also. Maybe one day I can get a photo of it I stopped in teh shop I go to and a regualr was there with it. Thanks,,RIck B

03-29-2002, 02:54 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Does it have a folding stock? I think that's something called the Bushmaster Assault Rifle, which was made using surplus M16 parts back when that was legal. Everything that's not M16 is Bushmaster. Not too familiar with it myself, but I'm pretty sure it's not a prototype M16. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-29-2002, 09:23 PM	#5
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,595	ORIGINAL BUSHMASTER? THE ORIGINAL BUSHMASTERS ALSO CAME IN A PISTOL FORM. THE RECIEVER ROTATES ABOUT 45 DEG EITHER SIDE OF VERTICLE. HAS SHEET METAL SIGHTS. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY AT SHOWS FOR YEARS. HAS A GREAT FEEL JUST THE SAME. DANA

03-31-2002, 09:16 AM	#8
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,595	BUSHMASTER PISTOL RUMOR WAS THE AIRFORCE LOOKED AT THEM BUT NEVER BOUGHT. IT STILL LOOKS GOOD AS PART OF A COLLECTION . AS YOU SAY IT IS A FORM OF A BULL PUP AND OVER LARGE FOR A PISTOL. HOWEVER THE PISTOL VERSIONS OF THE M15 ARE NOT MUCH BETER

04-08-2002, 08:13 PM	#9
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 838	This looked almost Identical in all aspects except cruder. The wooden stock was cut a bit differnet kind of like kids blocks. The upper recevier had the serial numbers on it and was more sqaure. I wished I took some photos and still will try to get him to bring it back to hte shop for photo's. It was neat and differnt. Rick B __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken!

03-28-2002, 09:45 PM	#2
JIMM Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: cincinnati ohio Posts: 48	stockdoc are you lost this isn't the m1 page. when you get back over ther I might have a question for you.

03-28-2002, 10:57 PM	#3
Stock Doc Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North Middle Ohio I see water Posts: 838	Hey stop that hehehehe. I am surprised no one knows about this weird looking M16 or Ar-15 prototype? I guess I will have to get the guy to let me take some pictures. I know that will peak interest's. Jimm by the way I own many rifles and frequesnt many boards which can be hard to remember when and where I posted sometimes. I think the linseed oil and alcohol stains are part of that problem hahahahahah Rick B __________________ If I cant fix it,, It must REALLY be broken!

03-29-2002, 09:46 PM	#6
tarheel "The Good Ol' North State!" Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 32	I remember those. The last one I saw was in a 1987 Guns and Ammo Buyer's Guide. Boy how things have changed.

03-30-2002, 02:23 PM	#7
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I've seen a Bushmaster pistol for 800ish at the PAGC gun show, but the new ones won't allow them. Personally, I think they're way too friggin big. It's a bullpup configuration and looked like a rifle except for the lack of a decent handguard, barrel, or buttstock. Oh well, to each his own. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-02-2008, 02:41 PM	#10
rhavindog Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	bushmaster assault rifle I have #309 (first "batch" with all the design problems.) This is a fun gun to shoot. its the companion rifle for the "armpistol" bullpup. it uses all m16 internals (presumably military takeoffs) including a very early m16 bolt with NO gas rings. a stamped sheet upper like an ak with a milled aluminum lower like an ar. it is pistol driven with the return springs mounted over the piston. mine is a folding stock. Ive fixed many design errors...the left folding stock with a left charging handle was a nice one,its now a right side folder....shortened the barrel (will soon be an sbr, but 16.25 inches for now) new style gas block etc. fun gun with little or no recoil with hot "wolf" ammo (the chamber is horrible so it gets crap ammo....the ar gets the handloads) but was worth the 200 my wife spent on it for my b-day