help with the right one to buy(( Ar type )) for deer.
I love to Target shoot and deer hunt .. I don't have an ar style yet but desire to get one soon. I want to buy quality and I don't desire to spend more than I make in a year. Does any one have a suggestion as style and type of manufacture.
has it been three weeks already? time for another thread like this.
You will find that some of us think an AR in 223 (5.56) is of insufficient caliber for deer and some who want to use their AR in that caliber who disagree.
ARs are available in 6.8 SPC and 300 Blackout, both suitable for deer within reasonable range (somewhere over 200 yds, but debatable as to the exact distance).
You can also get an AR (10) in a true suitable caliber like .243 or .308 and have a universally acceptable caliber for deer.
Personally I can't see carrying an AR style gun in the field, too awkward, but that's a personal choice.
I have never carried an AR for deer. I do agree with bobvonb. You really didn't specify caliber and if you are open to that I don't see why a 6.8spc, 6.5 grendel or above would not make a fine deer rifle. Although some would disagree, I feel the 5.56 is sufficient for the size of deer found in central Texas and other places. Smaller light weight animals. This is provided one keeps ranges close and shots placed with precision.
BUT, for an AR with quality, I would recommend building one! There are a lot of manufacturers who make quality uppers and other parts that you can build in teh caliber of your choice for reasonable prices. I was pretty impressed with the quality of Model 1 sales parts. Although I will say that some have found their customer service to be less than stellar. I have had no problems with them in the past. Heard good things about Rock River Arms and Bushmaster. DPMS has quality parts as well.
All in all you can build a nice rifle, have fun building it and get the rifle you want for a lot less than store bought. It doesn't take a great deal of skill to build one. There are a lot of great videos to show you how to do it and if you get a complete upper you would not need the vice or barrel tool. It will be headspaced to that bolt as well. But be careful if you build one.....one will never be enough! LOL!
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I'm looking into the same thing but kinda a step past you cuz I already have an AR & know what caliber I want, though now just gotta find which brand to go with for an 7.62x39 complete upper. already have one in 308 too but IMO its too much for my ranges & heavier...plus costs more to shoot.
your 2 questions ....style & manufacture.
you already made up your mind for style.....AR....but more indepth it'll depend on the yardage your hunting at for caliber to buy, most calibers will do the job just fine except the smaller ones but when it comes down to it is the cost of the ammo (IMO) when it comes to having an AR if the caliber ammo is only sold in 20 round boxes its the wrong caliber to have....you need to be able to buy it by the case or at least 500/250 packs
IMO keep it lightweight 16"bbl unless you're doing some serious yardage. flattop a must! freefloat recommended, colapseable stock a plus since extra clothing being worn, oversized trigger guard, tac latch, night sights or reddot.
manufacture....go with a well known name and you shouldnt have any problems. but as the saying goes.....**** happens! so even with name brand you could still have problems & that goes for every type of namebrand items throughout the world.
I use a DPMS LR-308 for deer, but I am hunting the big mule deer out west. I would go with the 6.8, 6.5 grendel or 300 blackout, but realize that the ammo for these are more expensive than the 5.56. The LR also comes in .243.
ARs are great in that you could get a 6.8 now and later get just the 5.56 upper and have both calibers. Just be aware that the 308/243 lowers are not interchangeable with the 5.56/6.8 lowers.
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I have a couple of things here - first of all, to AlienX and NEBubba, welcome to the site! You will find us mostly friendly, the mods pretty good at keeping things family friendly, and all kinds of extremely knowledgeable people here to talk with. You may find some opinions, too, as you have seen.
NeBubba - does your state have a caliber restriction on deer rounds? If it was me and I was allowed to use a rifle in the deer woods, and if I wanted to use an AR, I would go with the .300 Blackout. You can get complete uppers in the round, ammo is not ridiculously priced, the only change you make to your gun is the upper, there are no feeding problems as with the AK based rounds. It has the on target punch of the 30/30, but with perhaps 50 to 75 or yards more effective range. I shouldn't need to tell you the 30/30 has taken more deer than any other rifle cartridge out there, and it still works just fine.
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Dateacha, thanks for the welcome. I was a member here many many months ago life happens & I forget my name/password so made a new one.
I'm also leary of the 762 uppers & heard problems but have also heard some manufactures have solved those problems. dont know....but will do more research as to who to go with, if not then go with the 6.8 & hope it goes mass produced for buying bulk.
Dateacha, thanks for the welcome. I was a member here many many months ago life happens & I forget my name/password so made a new one.
I'm also leary of the 762 uppers & heard problems but have also heard some manufactures have solved those problems. dont know....but will do more research as to who to go with, if not then go with the 6.8 & hope it goes mass produced for buying bulk.
I've got an AR in 7.62x39 and it's a quick handling rifle, very accurate with US made factory ammo or reloads, it gets alittle more range then a 30-30 . I have had no issues with function or accuracy.
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