.280 Rem

Palladin8 · 12-01-2007, 12:41 PM

Hello everyone,

I am looking at buying a new rifle and am considering three calibers. The .270 win, the 7mm-08, or the .280 Rem. I was looking into the .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby but the rifle I am looking at buying (T/C Encore) is not chambered for either caliber and the custom barrel companies don't seem to make them either.

Anyways my question is does anyone have the .280 Rem and are they happy with the caliber? What is the Ballistic performance out to say 400yds. The reloading manuals I have only show muzzle.
I do reload so ammo price is not a concern for me and I have checked online and seen that the brass is right around the same price as as the .270 Win.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Scott

samuel · 12-01-2007, 01:41 PM

The .280rem. is a great cartridge.You wont be able to tell the difference in that and a .270win. sam.

two-70 · 12-01-2007, 02:20 PM

I have a TC Encore in 243 i just bought, it is one fine shooting gun, am gonna get me a 270 win barrel for it, 270 is an awesome caliber, never shot the 280 but i will take Sams word they are bout the same, and 270 win ammo can be had any where ya go

Palladin8 · 12-01-2007, 05:54 PM

Yeah I was just at Bass Pro shops looking at the premium ammo and noticed that the .280 was about $10 more a box than that of the .270. But like I said I handload so it really isn't that big of a difference in price for brass (something like $9 per 100 difference). The one thing I like about the .280 is bullet selection in 7mm seems to be greater than that of the 270 so that is a plus in my book. BTW they said they could order me one and it could be here in as little as 1.5 to 2 weeks for $629 for the synthetic stainless. Very tempting

Scott

two-70 · 12-01-2007, 06:11 PM

thats cool

Arkiemike · 12-02-2007, 03:54 PM

I shoot a Remington 700 in 280 cal. I have hunted with it since 1993, and am confident in its performance out to 300 yards (farthest I have shot it). I use 140 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips.
I have never lost a deer after hitting it with this gun.
A friend uses a 280 for elk in New Mexico, and is very happy with it.

~kev~ · 12-03-2007, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palladin8

Anyways my question is does anyone have the .280 Rem and are they happy with the caliber?

To answer your question:

Yes and Yes

My rifle is the Remington BDL Mountain rifle chambered in 280 / 7mm express. Its the same round, just different names.

I usually shoot 150 grain Remington rounds in my 280 with very good results on deer.

A word of caution. remington likes to chamber rounds in its light weight mountain rifle. This causes the rifle to kick a little harder. In a side by side comparison - a weatherby vangaurd in 270 kicks a lot less then a remington BDL mountain rifle in 280.

My best groups have been 3/4 - 1 inch at 100 yards. Am I happy with the 280, I sure am. The only reason why the 270 is more popular is because it got a 30 head start on the 280.

Even most gun magazines say the 280 is a better choice then the 270 for elk and moose. The 7mm bullet will give you more options when reloading then the 270 will.

I like to tell people the 280 is half way between the 270 and the 30-06. The 280 is supposed to be a little longer then the 270. This is to prevent accidental chambering of a 280 in a 270 rifle. Even though a recent issue of guns and ammo magazine got the pictures and labels switched around between the 270 and 280.

Magnumsrule · 12-03-2007, 09:40 PM

The 280. Rem is hands down better than the 270. It shoots flatter farther and with more foot pounds of energy. I have seen it take down many moose, elk, and deer. All with one shot. These shots where anywhere from 75 to about 200 yards but i would not be afraid to shoot it at well over 300. IF you look at the fedral site they have the balistics for all their rounds and you can compare them with other rounds. This is very useful and you can find that the 280. will actually match teh 7mm with energy at long ranges. Plus this round kicks much less that the 7mm mag.

samuel · 12-04-2007, 04:00 AM

You might be able to force a .270win in a .280rem chamber but there is no way you can get a .280(bigger diameter bullet)in a .270. sam.

Magnumsrule · 12-04-2007, 03:17 PM

Plus if u did get the bullet in the chamber it would just explode.

lefty o · 12-04-2007, 03:31 PM

samuel · 12-04-2007, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnumsrule

Plus if u did get the bullet in the chamber it would just explode.

Before or after you pulled the trigger? sam.

Magnumsrule · 12-04-2007, 08:47 PM

obviously after lol

ArkansasHunter · 12-05-2007, 12:34 AM

I thought about getting a 280 when I bought my new rifle, but I've never seen ammo for sale in my area.
I've read for years in hunting magazines that the 280 is much,much better all around than a 270.

two 70 you should consider a 280 barrel instead of the 270 for your encore...A.H

Magnumsrule · 12-05-2007, 03:17 PM

Ammo was hard to find where i live too but it is becomming more popular. The extended range remington shells where the bes. They went out of production years ago but u can find some boxes kicking around gun shows.

~kev~ · 12-05-2007, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuel

You might be able to force a .270win in a .280rem chamber but there is no way you can get a .280(bigger diameter bullet)in a .270. sam.

+1 on this

The bullet diameter would stop the round from going into the chamber.

Palladin8 · 12-08-2007, 10:22 AM

Hey Kev just out of curiosity what's the recoil like with this cartridge? My brother and I got to talking and he asked me and since I have never shot the .280 Rem I couldn't answer. I would think it would be similar to the .270 or 30-06.

Onesonek · 12-08-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palladin8

Hello everyone,

I am looking at buying a new rifle and am considering three calibers. The .270 win, the 7mm-08, or the .280 Rem. I was looking into the .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby but the rifle I am looking at buying (T/C Encore) is not chambered for either caliber and the custom barrel companies don't seem to make them either.

Anyways my question is does anyone have the .280 Rem and are they happy with the caliber? What is the Ballistic performance out to say 400yds. The reloading manuals I have only show muzzle.
I do reload so ammo price is not a concern for me and I have checked online and seen that the brass is right around the same price as as the .270 Win.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Scott

The wsm's are just too much for the Encore frame, and are a handloading proposition only. I know of a couple guys shooting factory loaded 300 wsm in it, but it wasn't designed to handle that larger casehead. Increased trust will stretch the frame eventually.
The 280 is an excellent round!!!!
If you are looking for a custom barrel at a reasonable price for a 270 Wby. I been hearing the guys that bought out Harry McGowen do a good job, and they may be able to set you up in that chambering. McGowen Precision Barrels, LLC Home
Personally I use another barrel maker, but I expect the best accuracy possible, and pay for it. This guy's only draw back is he don't do tapers, but instead "step downs". Although, if you sent him a tapered blank, he would chamber it for you no problem.
Dave

forestgleaner · 12-08-2007, 11:45 AM

I hunt with a 270 win. it has never let me down, and no matter where you go, there is ammo for it available. If you don't travel to out of the way places, I would say the 280 is slightly better, but the animal you hit, will never know it. If you travel to out of the way places, and your ammo becomes lost, or unusable, odds are you would have a lot better chance of finding the 270. It is always more fun to use a less popular calibur, seems to make it a bit more challenging.

ArkansasHunter · 12-09-2007, 01:00 PM

I just grabbed the September 1980 issue of Guns and Ammo to look at and Remington has an ad in it about the New 7mm Express (now the 280). Heres what It says.

The 7mm Express Remington. It Bridges the gap between 270 & 30-06 and
outperforms both.

In velocity, energy and trajectory the new 7mm Express beats the popular 150 gr. 270 and 30-06. All the way out to 500 yards.
This new cartridge with it's .284 150 gr. Core-Lokt bullet gives superior ballistics performance thanks to a new powder, a greater case capacity.
Now you can have near magnum performance with out magnum recoil.
At a non magnum price.

The Remington 788 rifle must of came out in 1980 too because theres an ad about it here too.

Because of greater case capasity with the 280 is it fair to compare it to the 270 ?
With larger bullet size and capasity were seeing a much different cartridge here and I like it.
A.H

12-01-2007, 12:41 PM	#1
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 192	.280 Rem Hello everyone, I am looking at buying a new rifle and am considering three calibers. The .270 win, the 7mm-08, or the .280 Rem. I was looking into the .270 WSM and .270 Weatherby but the rifle I am looking at buying (T/C Encore) is not chambered for either caliber and the custom barrel companies don't seem to make them either. Anyways my question is does anyone have the .280 Rem and are they happy with the caliber? What is the Ballistic performance out to say 400yds. The reloading manuals I have only show muzzle. I do reload so ammo price is not a concern for me and I have checked online and seen that the brass is right around the same price as as the .270 Win. Thanks in advance for your help, Scott

12-01-2007, 02:20 PM	#3
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,755	I have a TC Encore in 243 i just bought, it is one fine shooting gun, am gonna get me a 270 win barrel for it, 270 is an awesome caliber, never shot the 280 but i will take Sams word they are bout the same, and 270 win ammo can be had any where ya go __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

12-01-2007, 06:11 PM	#5
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,755	thats cool __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

12-03-2007, 09:40 PM	#8
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 561 Blog Entries: 2	The 280. Rem is hands down better than the 270. It shoots flatter farther and with more foot pounds of energy. I have seen it take down many moose, elk, and deer. All with one shot. These shots where anywhere from 75 to about 200 yards but i would not be afraid to shoot it at well over 300. IF you look at the fedral site they have the balistics for all their rounds and you can compare them with other rounds. This is very useful and you can find that the 280. will actually match teh 7mm with energy at long ranges. Plus this round kicks much less that the 7mm mag. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

12-04-2007, 03:17 PM	#10
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 561 Blog Entries: 2	Plus if u did get the bullet in the chamber it would just explode. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

12-01-2007, 01:41 PM	#2
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,492	The .280rem. is a great cartridge.You wont be able to tell the difference in that and a .270win. sam.

12-01-2007, 05:54 PM	#4
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 192	Yeah I was just at Bass Pro shops looking at the premium ammo and noticed that the .280 was about $10 more a box than that of the .270. But like I said I handload so it really isn't that big of a difference in price for brass (something like $9 per 100 difference). The one thing I like about the .280 is bullet selection in 7mm seems to be greater than that of the 270 so that is a plus in my book. BTW they said they could order me one and it could be here in as little as 1.5 to 2 weeks for $629 for the synthetic stainless. Very tempting Scott

12-02-2007, 03:54 PM	#6
Arkiemike Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SW Arkansas Posts: 36	I shoot a Remington 700 in 280 cal. I have hunted with it since 1993, and am confident in its performance out to 300 yards (farthest I have shot it). I use 140 gr. Nosler Ballistic tips. I have never lost a deer after hitting it with this gun. A friend uses a 280 for elk in New Mexico, and is very happy with it.

12-04-2007, 04:00 AM	#9
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,492	You might be able to force a .270win in a .280rem chamber but there is no way you can get a .280(bigger diameter bullet)in a .270. sam.

12-04-2007, 03:31 PM	#11
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,233

12-04-2007, 08:47 PM	#13
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 561 Blog Entries: 2	obviously after lol __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

12-05-2007, 12:34 AM	#14
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,691	I thought about getting a 280 when I bought my new rifle, but I've never seen ammo for sale in my area. I've read for years in hunting magazines that the 280 is much,much better all around than a 270. two 70 you should consider a 280 barrel instead of the 270 for your encore...A.H

12-05-2007, 03:17 PM	#15
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 561 Blog Entries: 2	Ammo was hard to find where i live too but it is becomming more popular. The extended range remington shells where the bes. They went out of production years ago but u can find some boxes kicking around gun shows. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!

12-08-2007, 10:22 AM	#17
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 192	Hey Kev just out of curiosity what's the recoil like with this cartridge? My brother and I got to talking and he asked me and since I have never shot the .280 Rem I couldn't answer. I would think it would be similar to the .270 or 30-06.

12-08-2007, 11:45 AM	#19
forestgleaner Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 90	I hunt with a 270 win. it has never let me down, and no matter where you go, there is ammo for it available. If you don't travel to out of the way places, I would say the 280 is slightly better, but the animal you hit, will never know it. If you travel to out of the way places, and your ammo becomes lost, or unusable, odds are you would have a lot better chance of finding the 270. It is always more fun to use a less popular calibur, seems to make it a bit more challenging.

12-09-2007, 01:00 PM	#20
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,691	I just grabbed the September 1980 issue of Guns and Ammo to look at and Remington has an ad in it about the New 7mm Express (now the 280). Heres what It says. The 7mm Express Remington. It Bridges the gap between 270 & 30-06 and outperforms both. In velocity, energy and trajectory the new 7mm Express beats the popular 150 gr. 270 and 30-06. All the way out to 500 yards. This new cartridge with it's .284 150 gr. Core-Lokt bullet gives superior ballistics performance thanks to a new powder, a greater case capacity. Now you can have near magnum performance with out magnum recoil. At a non magnum price. The Remington 788 rifle must of came out in 1980 too because theres an ad about it here too. Because of greater case capasity with the 280 is it fair to compare it to the 270 ? With larger bullet size and capasity were seeing a much different cartridge here and I like it. A.H Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 12-09-2007 at 04:27 PM.

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