30-06 220 enough to take deer?

Erick123 · 12-30-2007, 01:13 AM

Is a 30-06 220grain enough to take a deer? Thanks

Mooseman684 · 12-30-2007, 01:27 AM

150 gr. ,180 gr. are plenty for a deer...220 will kill them too. Mule Deer ?

toolman · 12-30-2007, 01:30 AM

It's big enough to kill anything on this continent if you can put it where you want it. If you are just after whitetails, it's pretty much overkill.

Troy · 12-30-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Erick123

Is a 30-06 220grain enough to take a deer? Thanks

yup, and maybe the one behind it too. J/k. like the guys said, 220g is a little over the top. 150g is all you'd need.

toolman · 12-30-2007, 01:49 AM

I just saw a 260 lb. whitetail buck that an 11 yr. old boy killed with a 90 gr. Speer s.p. out of a .243 @ 95 yds. I shot a huge doe last year with a 204 gr. Barnaul s.p. in my M-44 because it was all I had, but I'd much rather use one of my 150 gr. handloads.

Troy · 12-30-2007, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by toolman

I shot a huge doe last year with a 204 gr. Barnaul s.p. in my M-44 because it was all I had, but I'd much rather use one of my 150 gr. handloads.

how much meat got piled up or was it a clean shot?

toolman · 12-30-2007, 02:10 AM

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how much meat got piled up or was it a clean shot?

It was a clean shot, liquefied both lungs @ 185 yds. I was just very nervous about using an unknown bullet at that distance on live game.

Troy · 12-30-2007, 04:23 AM

good for you, a friend was out last fall and took a doe. he was off a little with his shot and lost a lot of meat cause of it. i dont remember what he was shooting but i think it was his mosin.

two-70 · 12-30-2007, 04:26 AM

id stay with 150's

Lepa4013 · 12-30-2007, 08:38 AM

Yeah in my opinion 220 is a lil overkill lol. I use 80 grains and sometimes 100's in my .243 and I've used 120's in .270's.

Erick123 · 12-30-2007, 05:40 PM

Alright, thanks guys. All ive seen in colorado; white tail and moose, ive only seen 1 bear while I was fishing, it took a mans fish (on a chain in the water) and ran off.

150gr it is. I did not know a 220 would rip it up that much.

rasterman77 · 12-30-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick123

Alright, thanks guys. All ive seen in colorado; white tail and moose, ive only seen 1 bear while I was fishing, it took a mans fish (on a chain in the water) and ran off.

150gr it is. I did not know a 220 would rip it up that much.

Good choice on the grain, now choosing between ballistic tip, hollow point, bonded, core-loct, etc. LOL
Wish I could have seen that bear grab the fish, that would have been a riot. We have Loons that steal our fish off the line but a bear would be better (as far as humour goes).

Magnumsrule · 12-30-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rasterman77

Good choice on the grain, now choosing between ballistic tip, hollow point, bonded, core-loct, etc. LOL
Wish I could have seen that bear grab the fish, that would have been a riot. We have Loons that steal our fish off the line but a bear would be better (as far as humour goes).

Ya my friend said that when he went camping one time they had some fish on a stringer in the water. When they woke up one of the fish was half gone and bear tracks where all around it. The prob was the stringer was only feet away from the tent!

Erick123 · 12-31-2007, 01:39 AM

Damn, I would have woke up.. rasterman, what would you say I should you? I only had soft tip rounds. Thanks

As far as that bear, my heart dropped, the thing was HUGE, I never thought they could be that big. the guy next to me says "that a little un".

rasterman77 · 12-31-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Erick123

Damn, I would have woke up.. rasterman, what would you say I should you? I only had soft tip rounds. Thanks

As far as that bear, my heart dropped, the thing was HUGE, I never thought they could be that big. the guy next to me says "that a little un".

They will all work for deer but because of the thin skin I usually use a rapid expansion bullet like the Hornady SST or Federal Fusion.

felix cortinas · 12-31-2007, 05:39 PM

I have taken lots of big deer and even #200

hogs with a .22-250. just make a clean shot.

just another comment, with todays "managed recoil" ammo, anyone can shoot a large caliber like the '06 and not get recoil shy. my girlfriend shoots mine with Remington managed recoil and she dont mind it at all. if you go for bigger game, load up with standard ammo and you wont notice the difference in ballistics til you are beyond 200 yards.

BattleRifleG3 · 01-01-2008, 11:38 AM

There is nothing wrong with using 220gr on deer if you like them. The explosive "ripping up" is related to bullet diameter, speed, and shape, not really weight when all other things are equal. A 220gr 30-06, unless it undergoes much more expansion, won't destroy more meat than a 150, in fact it may destroy even less meat due to its lower velocity while retaining more energy and penetrating further due to weight.

The overpenatration issue is correct though. I know someone who shot two deer in one shot from a 30-30. That may be a fair comparison, 150gr round nose through a doe and 220gr round nose through a buck. Overpenetration shouldn't be something you worry about too much considering you should always know what is behind your target.

lefty o · 01-01-2008, 12:20 PM

220grain bullets are a poor choice for deer sized animals. they have heavier construction made for use on animals like elk,moose, and the larger bears. they will not reliably expand in a whitetailed deer. the 150-180gr bullets will give much better results.

Oxford · 01-01-2008, 12:33 PM

I only use 150 grain rounds for whitetail deer. It's all about placement, though.

Magnumsrule · 01-01-2008, 03:05 PM

The 220 round also has poor trajectory for any long range shooting.

12-30-2007, 01:13 AM	#1
Erick123 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0)	30-06 220 enough to take deer? Is a 30-06 220grain enough to take a deer? Thanks

12-30-2007, 01:30 AM	#3
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,305 Trader Rating: (0)	It's big enough to kill anything on this continent if you can put it where you want it. If you are just after whitetails, it's pretty much overkill. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

12-30-2007, 01:49 AM	#5
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,305 Trader Rating: (0)	I just saw a 260 lb. whitetail buck that an 11 yr. old boy killed with a 90 gr. Speer s.p. out of a .243 @ 95 yds. I shot a huge doe last year with a 204 gr. Barnaul s.p. in my M-44 because it was all I had, but I'd much rather use one of my 150 gr. handloads. __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

12-30-2007, 04:26 AM	#9
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,755 Trader Rating: (0)	id stay with 150's __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

12-30-2007, 08:38 AM	#10
Lepa4013 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska... Posts: 112 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah in my opinion 220 is a lil overkill lol. I use 80 grains and sometimes 100's in my .243 and I've used 120's in .270's. __________________ http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a57...013/GGsig2.jpg

12-30-2007, 01:27 AM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,192 Trader Rating: (0)	150 gr. ,180 gr. are plenty for a deer...220 will kill them too. Mule Deer ? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-30-2007, 04:23 AM	#8
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,499 Trader Rating: (0)	good for you, a friend was out last fall and took a doe. he was off a little with his shot and lost a lot of meat cause of it. i dont remember what he was shooting but i think it was his mosin.

12-30-2007, 05:40 PM	#11
Erick123 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0)	Alright, thanks guys. All ive seen in colorado; white tail and moose, ive only seen 1 bear while I was fishing, it took a mans fish (on a chain in the water) and ran off. 150gr it is. I did not know a 220 would rip it up that much.

12-31-2007, 01:39 AM	#14
Erick123 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0)	Damn, I would have woke up.. rasterman, what would you say I should you? I only had soft tip rounds. Thanks As far as that bear, my heart dropped, the thing was HUGE, I never thought they could be that big. the guy next to me says "that a little un". Last edited by Erick123; 12-31-2007 at 01:40 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

12-31-2007, 05:39 PM	#16
felix cortinas Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 144 Trader Rating: (0)	30-06 for deer I have taken lots of big deer and even #200hogs with a .22-250. just make a clean shot. just another comment, with todays "managed recoil" ammo, anyone can shoot a large caliber like the '06 and not get recoil shy. my girlfriend shoots mine with Remington managed recoil and she dont mind it at all. if you go for bigger game, load up with standard ammo and you wont notice the difference in ballistics til you are beyond 200 yards. Last edited by felix cortinas; 12-31-2007 at 05:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-01-2008, 11:38 AM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	There is nothing wrong with using 220gr on deer if you like them. The explosive "ripping up" is related to bullet diameter, speed, and shape, not really weight when all other things are equal. A 220gr 30-06, unless it undergoes much more expansion, won't destroy more meat than a 150, in fact it may destroy even less meat due to its lower velocity while retaining more energy and penetrating further due to weight. The overpenatration issue is correct though. I know someone who shot two deer in one shot from a 30-30. That may be a fair comparison, 150gr round nose through a doe and 220gr round nose through a buck. Overpenetration shouldn't be something you worry about too much considering you should always know what is behind your target. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-01-2008, 12:20 PM	#18
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,672 Trader Rating: (0)	220grain bullets are a poor choice for deer sized animals. they have heavier construction made for use on animals like elk,moose, and the larger bears. they will not reliably expand in a whitetailed deer. the 150-180gr bullets will give much better results.

01-01-2008, 12:33 PM	#19
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,948 Trader Rating: (0)	I only use 150 grain rounds for whitetail deer. It's all about placement, though. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

01-01-2008, 03:05 PM	#20
Magnumsrule Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Northern Alberta, Canada Posts: 586 Trader Rating: (0)	The 220 round also has poor trajectory for any long range shooting. __________________ Cartridge Group Like to discuss cartridges? Join HERE!