30/06 bullet choice

romex21 · 01-06-2008, 08:29 AM

what bullet, and grain would you recomend for my 30/06???

will be hunting barbary sheep this feb.

SwedeSteve · 01-06-2008, 08:44 AM

What will be the typical range for your shots?

Midas · 01-06-2008, 08:45 AM

I'd just stick with the plain jane 180 grain

romex21 · 01-06-2008, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

What will be the typical range for your shots?

no more than 300yds for me, i know the sheep are usally a long range type hunt and also some up&down hill shoting in the canyons we hunt. (very rugged)

texnmidwest · 01-06-2008, 08:53 AM

I shoot factory 150 grains for whitetails in open country. If the ranges were close and terrain was woods or brush I would step up to the 180. All really depends on where you are and what shots you expect. From my experience sheep are not hard to kill so even the managed recoil loads would do the job out to around 200 yards.

Really, I would just look in the safe and see what I had. That is what I would use. Dang, that wouldn't be any fun....hmm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by romex21

no more than 300yds for me, i know the sheep are usally a long range type hunt and also some up&down hill shoting in the canyons we hunt. (very rugged)

With this info stick with the 150 to 165 grain bullets. Plus, practice 300 yard shots in different conditions. You will have a great hunt!

romex21 · 01-06-2008, 08:56 AM

nothing like testing new loads,

lol

pruneemac · 01-06-2008, 11:14 AM

ive been happy with the 180 grain partition. I dropped my mountain goat dead with a neck shot. My guide was more excited than I was. He didnt have to chase a wounded goat!

nathangdad · 01-06-2008, 11:43 AM

Technically, the .30-06 was developed for the U.S. military with a bullet of approximately 168 grains. The 150 grain has historically been the "all around" bullet for this versatile cartridge. However, I suggest you look at some the major reloading manuals where you will find a great deal of information on loads for bullets from 110 grain up to 220 grain (and in a few cases beyond 220 grain). This will give you an opportunity to work toward matching bullet and load to the hunting you plan.

Hello to Samuel - well, I am neither guessing nor fabricating. I stand by my post that had nothing to do with the .30-03 (by the way I know about the .30-03) and the 150 grain is the historically "all around" bullet weight for the .30-06. I believe in studying reloading manuals as they provide a wide range of information for most cartridges. This is a forum. I have neither the intent nor the desire to back down from any post I have made to date. I am lost as to what you mean by
the dilution of the concept of "original".

samuel · 01-06-2008, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Technically, the .30-06 was developed for the U.S. military with a bullet of approximately 168 grains. The 150 grain has historically been the "all around" bullet for this versatile cartridge. However, I suggest you look at some the major reloading manuals where you will find a great deal of information on loads for bullets from 110 grain up to 220 grain (and in a few cases beyond 220 grain). This will give you an opportunity to work toward matching bullet and load to the hunting you plan.

By the time you get done guessing or fabricating there is never anything "original" about anything!!! The .30-03 came out with a 220gr round nose bullet in the year 1903.It was rated at 2200fps.Because of bore erosion caused by the nitro-glycerine powder used at the time they reduced it to 2000fps.In 1905 Germany came out with the "spitzer"type bullet.The U.S. shortened the case and changed rhe load to a 150gr "spitzer"type bullet at 2700fps.The shortened case is still the same today. sam.

Mooseman684 · 01-06-2008, 01:38 PM

When I am Hunting Dall Sheep here in Alaska I drop to the lighter 150 Gr. Bullets in 30Cal....Sheep are not that large of an animal for one thing and I may have to make a longer shot than I anticipated so I want a flatter Trajectory. At 300 to 400 Yards a 150 gr.SP boattail bullet leaving the muzzle at 2900 fps will have over 1,420 ft.lbs of energy when it smacks that sheep...More than enough energy and if your rifle is zeroed at 300, you will be 5 inches high at 200 yards and 11.8 inches low at 400 yards and the bullet will still be doing over 2000 fps. The Bullet at this speed should perform perfectly and retain over 85% of it original weight. Of course, your results may vary somewhat....
Rich

Ron AKA · 01-06-2008, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romex21

what bullet, and grain would you recomend for my 30/06???

will be hunting barbary sheep this feb.

I would suggest the 125 gr. If you download a free program from Remington at the link below you can play around with different loads. I found that the 125 shot flatter than the 150, 160, or 180, and I would think has enough energy for sheep.

Remington Shoot! Ballistics Software

I would sight it in for 2.5" high at 100 yards. That will put you about 2.8" high at 150, dead on at 240, and about 5" low at 300. That assumes you can accept that much deviation. It can be tightened but you will have to hold over more at 300.

Ron

blaster · 01-06-2008, 08:29 PM

I mostly use the '06 for my big game hunting. I load the 150 gr psp for deer sized game and 220gr roundnosed for black bears in the woods. I tried 125 gr bullets but found they were too explosive and gave poor penentration on a 100 lb hog

Pumpkinheaver · 01-06-2008, 09:46 PM

The 150 grain bullet will work great for your intended purposes.

romex21 · 01-07-2008, 05:30 PM

i do like the winchester 150gr soft point it shoots very well in my rifle, just did'nt know if the wieght of the 150gr would be enough to do an addiquit job
iv'e always heard them sheep are tough critters

ArkansasHunter · 01-07-2008, 05:54 PM

feller where I live hunting is a part of life and it's still a big event when the season rolls around. Due to T.V. hunting shows and the wealth of information in hunting magazines and now the Internet. The right cartridge and grain bullet is now paramount in aiding a successful Deer hunt.

I rememer back many year ago when 220 grain was the 30-06 cartridge to buy and it didn't really matter what brand, but some folks had a brand ammo they prefered.
It was thought bigger is better and as years passed and as we got a little more educated most folks changed to 180 grain cartridges.

Today the more learned and skilled hunters use 150 grain bullets in all the brands available for White Tail Deer.

Some buy the high dollar stuff thats dipped in plastic with pointed plastic tips and some still buy the cheaper stuff such as Remington Core Lokt's and Winchester Power
Points.

So what I would suggest that you use for your rifle is Remington 150 gr. Core-Lokt's
the cheaper stuff. Lets hope your 30-06 loves it as much as mine does. It's the best in my book...A.H

texnmidwest · 01-07-2008, 06:10 PM

He shouldn't do that Arkansas. It will leave behind too much evidence. I think he should use subsonic loads topped with ice bullets. Quiet, stealthy and not a shred of evidence the PETA people could use against him.

ArkansasHunter · 01-08-2008, 01:12 AM

You rectom ? LOL

samuel · 01-08-2008, 06:03 AM

This is only a personal finding I have experienced.Having little to complain about with the great penetration of the 180gr and rge great bullet action of the 150gr,I found the 165gr gave me the best of both worlds.In both .308 and .30-06. sam.

SwedeSteve · 01-08-2008, 10:01 AM

I would go with the 150gr Spitzer for shots to 300.

samuel · 01-09-2008, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathangdad

Technically, the .30-06 was developed for the U.S. military with a bullet of approximately 168 grains. The 150 grain has historically been the "all around" bullet for this versatile cartridge. However, I suggest you look at some the major reloading manuals where you will find a great deal of information on loads for bullets from 110 grain up to 220 grain (and in a few cases beyond 220 grain). This will give you an opportunity to work toward matching bullet and load to the hunting you plan.

Hello to Samuel - well, I am neither guessing nor fabricating. I stand by my post that had nothing to do with the .30-03 (by the way I know about the .30-03) and the 150 grain is the historically "all around" bullet weight for the .30-06. I believe in studying reloading manuals as they provide a wide range of information for most cartridges. This is a forum. I have neither the intent nor the desire to back down from any post I have made to date. I am lost as to what you mean by
the dilution of the concept of "original".

Thats good?Thank you? sam.

01-06-2008, 08:29 AM	#1
romex21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8	30/06 bullet choice what bullet, and grain would you recomend for my 30/06??? will be hunting barbary sheep this feb.

01-06-2008, 08:44 AM	#2
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,372 Images: 1	What will be the typical range for your shots? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-06-2008, 08:45 AM	#3
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,805 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I'd just stick with the plain jane 180 grain __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

01-06-2008, 11:14 AM	#7
pruneemac Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CA Posts: 56	bullet choice ive been happy with the 180 grain partition. I dropped my mountain goat dead with a neck shot. My guide was more excited than I was. He didnt have to chase a wounded goat!

01-06-2008, 11:43 AM	#8
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,473	Well, you might wish to check some manuals Technically, the .30-06 was developed for the U.S. military with a bullet of approximately 168 grains. The 150 grain has historically been the "all around" bullet for this versatile cartridge. However, I suggest you look at some the major reloading manuals where you will find a great deal of information on loads for bullets from 110 grain up to 220 grain (and in a few cases beyond 220 grain). This will give you an opportunity to work toward matching bullet and load to the hunting you plan. Hello to Samuel - well, I am neither guessing nor fabricating. I stand by my post that had nothing to do with the .30-03 (by the way I know about the .30-03) and the 150 grain is the historically "all around" bullet weight for the .30-06. I believe in studying reloading manuals as they provide a wide range of information for most cartridges. This is a forum. I have neither the intent nor the desire to back down from any post I have made to date. I am lost as to what you mean by the dilution of the concept of "original". Last edited by nathangdad; 01-07-2008 at 08:18 PM. Reason: reply to samuel

01-06-2008, 08:56 AM	#6
romex21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8	nothing like testing new loads, lol

01-06-2008, 01:38 PM	#10
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	When I am Hunting Dall Sheep here in Alaska I drop to the lighter 150 Gr. Bullets in 30Cal....Sheep are not that large of an animal for one thing and I may have to make a longer shot than I anticipated so I want a flatter Trajectory. At 300 to 400 Yards a 150 gr.SP boattail bullet leaving the muzzle at 2900 fps will have over 1,420 ft.lbs of energy when it smacks that sheep...More than enough energy and if your rifle is zeroed at 300, you will be 5 inches high at 200 yards and 11.8 inches low at 400 yards and the bullet will still be doing over 2000 fps. The Bullet at this speed should perform perfectly and retain over 85% of it original weight. Of course, your results may vary somewhat.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-06-2008, 08:29 PM	#12
blaster Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: big pine key, florida Posts: 435	I mostly use the '06 for my big game hunting. I load the 150 gr psp for deer sized game and 220gr roundnosed for black bears in the woods. I tried 125 gr bullets but found they were too explosive and gave poor penentration on a 100 lb hog __________________ peace through superior firepower

01-06-2008, 09:46 PM	#13
Pumpkinheaver Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,340	The 150 grain bullet will work great for your intended purposes. __________________ Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

01-07-2008, 05:30 PM	#14
romex21 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8	i do like the winchester 150gr soft point it shoots very well in my rifle, just did'nt know if the wieght of the 150gr would be enough to do an addiquit job iv'e always heard them sheep are tough critters

01-07-2008, 05:54 PM	#15
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	feller where I live hunting is a part of life and it's still a big event when the season rolls around. Due to T.V. hunting shows and the wealth of information in hunting magazines and now the Internet. The right cartridge and grain bullet is now paramount in aiding a successful Deer hunt. I rememer back many year ago when 220 grain was the 30-06 cartridge to buy and it didn't really matter what brand, but some folks had a brand ammo they prefered. It was thought bigger is better and as years passed and as we got a little more educated most folks changed to 180 grain cartridges. Today the more learned and skilled hunters use 150 grain bullets in all the brands available for White Tail Deer. Some buy the high dollar stuff thats dipped in plastic with pointed plastic tips and some still buy the cheaper stuff such as Remington Core Lokt's and Winchester Power Points. So what I would suggest that you use for your rifle is Remington 150 gr. Core-Lokt's the cheaper stuff. Lets hope your 30-06 loves it as much as mine does. It's the best in my book...A.H Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 01-07-2008 at 05:56 PM.

01-07-2008, 06:10 PM	#16
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,454	He shouldn't do that Arkansas. It will leave behind too much evidence. I think he should use subsonic loads topped with ice bullets. Quiet, stealthy and not a shred of evidence the PETA people could use against him. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

01-08-2008, 01:12 AM	#17
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	You rectom ? LOL

01-08-2008, 06:03 AM	#18
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	This is only a personal finding I have experienced.Having little to complain about with the great penetration of the 180gr and rge great bullet action of the 150gr,I found the 165gr gave me the best of both worlds.In both .308 and .30-06. sam.

01-08-2008, 10:01 AM	#19
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,372 Images: 1	I would go with the 150gr Spitzer for shots to 300. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers