Why Cammo up?

[Silent Shooter]

I am confident, very safe,

You usually don't see those two things go hand in hand...

[.280Rem]

Camo? Why not? Does it hurt anything? I've seen this same thread on every hunting site I've ever been on, and it's almost always started by someone bragging that they don't use camo and kill game just fine. Big deal! I use it, sometimes, and I kill game too! So why does it matter to anyone if someone else wears camo. I think there's a group of hunters/shooters on the net that like to start this type of trash because they're insecure and like to randomly bash others.

[ArkansasHunter]

Hi 280 I really don't get the feeling that someone is trien to bash camo but only stating there opinion about what they choose to wear hunt'in kinda.
I'll always wear camo and scent killers or maskers because I've had Deer walk right past me and they were so close I could of goosed them in the Butt.
That never happed when I wore regular clothes.

I think this year I'll try wearing a 3 piece sunday suite with tie Deer season just for fun.
I'll even post pictures LOL !!!

[NTBNB]

"sure drinking and firearms are not safe, but...." Enough said!!! In no part of the United States (even the country of Texas) is it "just part of the camp life". The only reason you look at hunting different in Texas is because your drunk with a gun. This is the exact reason most non-hunters vision hunters as beer drinking rowdy gun happy killers. Don't get me wrong, once the hunt is over and it's dark time and supper is on the table, we will crack the beers and lie about the days hunt. My only hope for you is that there are no young hunters in camp "learning" how to hunt from you guys.

[Bravo]

Every species has one sense that is usually very strong.

Humans have incredible eye sight compared to other species, deer have rather poor eye sight.

For deer, smell and hearing are very good. (FYI, Humans have some of the worst senses of smell of all species. We are set up to smell in stereo, but have yet to evolve to do so. Imagine not only smelling something, but smelling the direction it's coming from )

As long as you sit still, and the deer is more than 50 yards away, chances are it's not going to bolt. As soon as it suspects something isn't right, it might decide to run.

[.280Rem]

Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Hi 280 I really don't get the feeling that someone is trien to bash camo but only stating there opinion about what they choose to wear hunt'in kinda.
I'll always wear camo and scent killers or maskers because I've had Deer walk right past me and they were so close I could of goosed them in the Butt.
That never happed when I wore regular clothes.

I think this year I'll try wearing a 3 piece sunday suite with tie Deer season just for fun.
I'll even post pictures LOL !!!

I do see that he put a "smiley" as the thread icon. But I have seen some "anti camo" types really bash on those that do wear it. Cant seem to get that really. I know this...camo may not be necessary, but it isn't a handicap of any kind.

[Magnumsrule]

I like wearing cammo. Its part of hunting. plus the good winter jacket, summer jacket combo trail tech jaket i have is good year round. Here we do not have to wear blaze. If i had to wear it then i think the cammo would be rather pointless...

[rdale501]

The drinking and handling of guns I think it's a common sense issue. What is common sense?

[stitchclimber]

Originally Posted by STITCH

WOW wish we had as dumb of whitetails as you all do in Missouri!!! If you do that where I hunt you wont see anything ever!!!!! You shouldnt bash on cammo just cuz you all have dumb deer!!! Try huntin with smart deer and see how ya do with blue jeans and sittin in smoked filled cloths!!! doubt you will have any luck at all!

Stitch, I have to disagree with you. I've hunted southern mo, northern mo, and central mo,and even in parts of Illinois, and I have never had a problem getting a deer without the use of camo, sent covers ect... It's not near as bad as you make it out to be. I've shot dear from 7yds to over 100yds and never had a problem. My first deer was shot at 75yds free standing in the middle of a field. Thats my story, sorry if you've got shit for a hunting spot...

[STITCH]

I guess eveyone has there own opinion about things! Sorry you disagree. Not sayin every place is like that. All I am sayin that is what works for me. sorry about that

[Phil Lozano]

I certainly agree, drinking and shooting is not the best idea. In Africa, I "lay down the law" on drinking, . . . . . . . . . . . 6 hours from the last touch of the bottle to the first touch of the trigger . . . . . . . end of discussion.

I think we have to monitor our own, or the Anit's will do it for us !.

Regarding the camo issue . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It never hurts to get all the advantage you can. Camo is especially useful when stalking in close. As has been stated earlier, a blind situation is a bit different. Animals pick up on movement extremely well, and when stalking them, if they look your way, camo will make it more difficult for them to "pinpoint" exactly where or what you are. It does not mean they cannot see you, but it does make it more difficult for them to see you 'straight away'. And if they do not see you straight away, you have a better change of them not seeing you. If you do not 'blend in to the 'bush', they will have a much easier time seeing you as you do not 'fit the land scape', the same thing we look for when we are stalking through the bush (items that do not fit in).

Below is a view of some camo in a real situation.
(if you are a member of my forum, then you have already seen them, sorry for repeating them here).


Here is (Predator camo) green and brown in a real setting off the road. Did not try to pick a "special" place as they seem to do in the ads, but just picked a bush. Stood in from of it for 1 photo, behind it for the other.






I asked my client to take them for me, so I could post here (taken about 3:00pm).

As you will see, just standing in behind a small piece of cover does make a noticeable difference.

I took camo to Tanzania because I had a client with a bow that wanted to hunt (stalk) animals and not sit in a blind to wait for them.

Best,
Phil
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Stay out of sight and down wind
Professional Hunter

[CroMagnum]

I wear some camo while hunting in Alaska but most of the time I don't. Don't drink any alcohol before I go hunting either, thats for afterwards. If you drink and hunt your going to wound or kill someone, just because that's the way you do it in Texas doesn't make it right.

[.280Rem]

Originally Posted by Phil Lozano

Regarding the camo issue . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . It never hurts to get all the advantage you can. Camo is especially useful when stalking in close. As has been stated earlier, a blind situation is a bit different. Animals pick up on movement extremely well, and when stalking them, if they look your way, camo will make it more difficult for them to "pinpoint" exactly where or what you are. It does not mean they cannot see you, but it does make it more difficult for them to see you 'straight away'. And if they do not see you straight away, you have a better change of them not seeing you. If you do not 'blend in to the 'bush', they will have a much easier time seeing you as you do not 'fit the land scape', the same thing we look for when we are stalking through the bush (items that do not fit in).


Best,
Phil
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Stay out of sight and down wind
Professional Hunter

Agree 100%. Camo doesn't hurt, and it can help, and that's enough for me.

[ArkansasHunter]

I shouldn't tell this, but here goes. My cuzzin Frog drop me off in the middle of know where, miles from the nearest main road.
We were deep in the Ochita river bottoms to do some Deer hunting in the evening. Back then a lot of youth were smokeing margeewana (Pot).
My cuzzin Frog didn't smoke that stuff and he didn't know that I did, so when he drove off out of site I reached in my pocket and pulled out a Joint.
As I walked along going deeper into the bottoms and puffing away on that joint I spie a likely spot to settle in to intercept a Deer.
As I sat with my back against a big oak tree I began to notice an abundance of Buzzards flying above me.
My first impression of all these Buzzards was WOW look at that, Cool ! After a few minutes the numbers of buzzards were increaseing so I leaned over to my left to look to see where all these buzzards were comeing from and to my stoned astonishment I was sitting about 15 yards from there roosting tree that happened to have what looked like 100's of Buzzards already roosting in it as well as the one's fly not far over head.
Suddenly the movie Birds come's to mind and being stoned I begin to see the need to get out of there, so I stood up and some how I forgot the direction I had came !!!

Being stoned and now afraid I was going to be pecked to death and not not knowing which direction to take the idea comes to mind to start shoot'in at all these Buzzards to shew'em off.
I knew it was against the law to shoot buzzards so I shot at limbs and branchs, tree trunk in the hope the buzzards would leave AND my cuzzin Frog would come see what all the shooting was about and fortuinitly he did !!! To my relief.
I will confess I got scard being under the influance of margeewana .
When I heard my cuzzin Frog's truck I took of running and when I made it to the road he asked what the hell were you shooting at and I told him about the Buzzards and that was all.
I assure everyone that reads this, that it is a true story and the lesson to be learned is Alcohol, Drugs and Firearms don't mix !!! Your mind needs to be focused on safty when handleing firearms and when you drink or use drugs your not as sharp as you need to be.
Though my storey was a silly one and nothing bad happened, I was 15 or 16 years old, I think when that happened, I did learn a lesson from it ...A.H

[Seabeescotty]

I don't do much stalking these days, getting a bit long in the tooth for it. But I do have a camo tarp over my tree stand, so I can squirm a little, and not alarm the critters in the area. And no, I don't think it's too smart to get wasted and play with firearms.

[AKHunter]

A.H. we all suffer from poor judgement in our youth. Learning from it and responding accordingly lends to maturity and wisdom as we age. I think you did well to share that story as embarrassing as it may be. I don't think i would have if it were me though .

It sure was an amusing read ! I had a vivid picture of the whole event .

[rdale501]

Although I think camo is useful, I would like to add that watching your outline, or we call it skylining yourself, is more harmful than not wearing camo. Anyway that has been my experience with these blacktails I chase. You skyline yourself and the gig is up camo or no.

[tgverdin]

Originally Posted by tommy

down here people wear camo all year long so it really doesn't matter what they wear when they go hunting you'll never know .infact the main hunting outfit is a pair of blue jeans and a mossy oak tee-shirt or any other kinda dark tee shirt but it's mainly a camo tee-shirt for sure. and most if not all wear a camo baseball type cap with some type of company logo on the front.

I gave my mom an old pair of bdu's for you so ask about them.
loves

[.280Rem]

Originally Posted by tgverdin

I gave my mom an old pair of bdu's for you so ask about them.
loves

Originally Posted by tommy

down here people wear camo all year long so it really doesn't matter what they wear when they go hunting you'll never know .infact the main hunting outfit is a pair of blue jeans and a mossy oak tee-shirt or any other kinda dark tee shirt but it's mainly a camo tee-shirt for sure. and most if not all wear a camo baseball type cap with some type of company logo on the front.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that about the deep south. Camo is daily gear, not just hunting gear.

[lorcin25]

I am beginning to think the same thing....I have only hunted a few times. I shot my first deer with my first shot this past winter. We sat in a stand and the guy with me crunched on candy and apples and talked on a walkie talkie to guys next to him. He moved and talked to me while a doe walked out on us not 50 yards from the stand. I am beginning to wonder if some of the camo stuff and "don't do such and such because they can hear and or smell you" is just a bunch of bunk.

My father in law is the best hunter I know and he smokes and wears jeans and a long sleeved denim shirt.

I also saw an ad once that claimed most camo shows up blue in an animal's view. Not so sure about that one either.....