Bear annihilator...

CroMagnum · 05-28-2008, 03:00 PM

Been chasing brown bears for about a month now and I thought i'd post a couple pics of the rifle I'm toting. Marlin 1895XLR in 45-70.

Midas · 05-28-2008, 03:04 PM

That's a mighty fine bear gun

SwedeSteve · 05-28-2008, 03:10 PM

Nice rifle! Where in Alaska are you from??

tlarkin · 05-28-2008, 03:13 PM

No scope? LOL, well I guess if you need a scope to hit a bear....you may want to find a new sport.

Nice looking gun though.

CroMagnum · 05-28-2008, 03:35 PM

I live in Eagle River but have lived in Fairbanks, North Pole, Chugiak, Anchorage then finally settled down in Eagle River.

musicmaniac · 05-28-2008, 03:38 PM

Man I love leverguns! And that is one fine looking gun! Welcome aboard CroMagnum!

KingMusa45 · 05-28-2008, 07:09 PM

thats some mighty fine shooting iron.

ruffman · 05-28-2008, 09:40 PM

That is a fine shooting iron!!! I have an older straight 1895 45-70, that I topped with a Trijicon 1X4 with see thru iron sights... What load are you packing???

AKHunter · 05-29-2008, 12:21 AM

That rifle is my "to get" list.

turner · 05-29-2008, 07:46 AM

Nothing against the .375H&H, .416, and .458 lovers, but I find the idea that an American lever gun is as good as it gets for harvesting ANY North American game very refreshing! Mine happens to be a .450, but the idea is exactly the same. Best of luck in your pursuit!

CroMagnum · 05-29-2008, 10:21 AM

I'm running 420 gr Garrett Hammerheads for the big bears and the 325 gr LeverRevolution's for everything else. She's wearing Wild West Guns rear ghost ring sight and a Williams Firesight front sight with a nickel front ramp. Also had the trigger adjusted to less than 3lbs and bead blasted the whole rig. Heading out tonight and will be back on Sunday, we're hiking into an area where we saw 6 brown bears and 1 huge black bear. Will post a report when I return.
I also own a Winchester model 70 in 375 H&H that I had originally bought for the big browns but I like this levergun so much that the 375 stays at home when bear hunting. I'll use it (375) for moose and goats and possibly a bear if I happen to run into one while moose hunting.

SwedeSteve · 05-29-2008, 12:32 PM

Good luck on your hunt !!

Mooseman684 · 05-29-2008, 12:38 PM

I'll second That...Get them Moose Killers !!! LOL
Rich

SwedeSteve · 05-30-2008, 01:43 PM

Just put some bacon in your buddy's fartsack at night. You should have some great shooting, LOL !!

samuel · 05-30-2008, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I'll second That...Get them Moose Killers !!! LOL
Rich

What I've seen of it,the critters,bear,wolf and coyote,and in your area wolverine,don't kill their own as much as clean up after wouldbe hunters shoot but loose game and the critters just happen to get caught cleaning up and get accused of killing what wanabe hunters actually killed and never found. sam.

ruffman · 05-30-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

,don't kill their own as much as clean up after wouldbe hunters sam.

An interesting point, but I can't agree entirely... Sure, hunters lose game especially those of us who throw sticks, and predators will take a free lunch if found. Of those you mention, wolves especially are quite good at bringing down game all on their own without our help... Your point begs the notion that meals come mostly during our hunting season??? I have seen the aftermath of a pack of coyotes who found a deer "yard" after some snow... 11 dead and partially eaten whitetails...

samuel · 05-31-2008, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ruffman

An interesting point, but I can't agree entirely... Sure, hunters lose game especially those of us who throw sticks, and predators will take a free lunch if found. Of those you mention, wolves especially are quite good at bringing down game all on their own without our help... Your point begs the notion that meals come mostly during our hunting season??? I have seen the aftermath of a pack of coyotes who found a deer "yard" after some snow... 11 dead and partially eaten whitetails...

I agree that it happens but most are reported during hunting season because other times most people arent out there to report incidents.I definitly am not posting any personal sightings because I would not be running around in Alaska,or any western state after season to make a personal survey.I get mixed emotions on this subject but it is my belief that the do-gooders exagerate one way about how innocent the predators are and the hunters exagerate about how all preditors kill wantonly and waste healthy animals,and the truth lies somewhere in between.I believe in predator control,but not extermination.Definitly,I am not out there enough to give anything but my opinion,not guidelines.I would like to read the opinions of hunters that are out there in off season who have a right to judge the situation. sam.

offroader1994 · 05-31-2008, 10:04 AM

[quote=ruffman;523008]An interesting point, but I can't agree entirely... Sure, hunters lose game especially those of us who throw sticks,

Should i understand this comment to say that if you are throwing sticks it is ok to loose an animal or not kill the animal cleanly? I am new to the Stick throwing style of hunting anly been throwing for about 4 years now and have pased up on quite a few shots.

ruffman · 05-31-2008, 01:33 PM

[quote= Should i understand this comment to say that if you are throwing sticks it is ok to loose an animal or not kill the animal cleanly? [/quote]

Of course it is not OK, however in my expierence it happens more often to archers than riflemen... I've bowhunted for almost 20 yrs and I lost the first buck I shot at on a marginal shot past my effective range... Young and stupid!!! I have lost none since. I pass a lot of animals each year, and I have been lucky... The point was that there a far more things that can go wrong in the time between release and striking the target, and the margin of error is tight.

Sam ... Good point! I agree entirely. The truth lies somewhere in between... The in between is that nature takes care of itself by balancing predators and prey... As hunters, we should try to keep the balance by taking a proportionate number of both... I'm not a game biologist, but that just seems like common sense...

SwedeSteve · 05-31-2008, 09:43 PM

Mother Nature has her own set of rules. When we intefer, they don't work. Plain and simple. Destruction of habitat is probably the single-most problem. Then we go to work trying to "balance" poulations. That is where we start the "boom and bust" population cycles. I am sure Moose would say he has seen this as well, particularly in Moose. When the prey species are declining, we go after the predators and raise the limits. When prey are overpopulating, we raise their limits and it goes on and on. Ma Nature can bring in her own population limiting factors such as low birth rate and disease to "smooth out" these cycles if we let her. If you go into the deep wilderness , you don't see this. Only where man is "managing" the game. Thank God I live in Alaska! Where I can get to where WE don't manage the wild things I like to hunt and eat !!

05-28-2008, 03:04 PM	#2
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,678 Trader Rating: (0)	That's a mighty fine bear gun __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

05-28-2008, 03:10 PM	#3
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,823 Trader Rating: (0)	Nice rifle! Where in Alaska are you from?? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-28-2008, 03:38 PM	#6
musicmaniac Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0)	Man I love leverguns! And that is one fine looking gun! Welcome aboard CroMagnum! __________________ A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. -- Sigmund Freud Last edited by musicmaniac; 05-28-2008 at 03:38 PM. Reason: Spelling

05-29-2008, 10:21 AM	#11
CroMagnum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm running 420 gr Garrett Hammerheads for the big bears and the 325 gr LeverRevolution's for everything else. She's wearing Wild West Guns rear ghost ring sight and a Williams Firesight front sight with a nickel front ramp. Also had the trigger adjusted to less than 3lbs and bead blasted the whole rig. Heading out tonight and will be back on Sunday, we're hiking into an area where we saw 6 brown bears and 1 huge black bear. Will post a report when I return. I also own a Winchester model 70 in 375 H&H that I had originally bought for the big browns but I like this levergun so much that the 375 stays at home when bear hunting. I'll use it (375) for moose and goats and possibly a bear if I happen to run into one while moose hunting. Last edited by CroMagnum; 05-29-2008 at 10:23 AM.

05-29-2008, 12:32 PM	#12
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,823 Trader Rating: (0)	Good luck on your hunt !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers Last edited by SwedeSteve; 05-29-2008 at 03:33 PM. Reason: typo

05-28-2008, 03:13 PM	#4
tlarkin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 1,537 Trader Rating: (0)	No scope? LOL, well I guess if you need a scope to hit a bear....you may want to find a new sport. Nice looking gun though.

05-28-2008, 03:35 PM	#5
CroMagnum Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 74 Trader Rating: (0)	I live in Eagle River but have lived in Fairbanks, North Pole, Chugiak, Anchorage then finally settled down in Eagle River.

05-28-2008, 07:09 PM	#7
KingMusa45 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0)	thats some mighty fine shooting iron.

05-28-2008, 09:40 PM	#8
ruffman Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	That is a fine shooting iron!!! I have an older straight 1895 45-70, that I topped with a Trijicon 1X4 with see thru iron sights... What load are you packing???

05-29-2008, 12:21 AM	#9
AKHunter Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 903 Trader Rating: (0)	That rifle is my "to get" list.

05-29-2008, 07:46 AM	#10
turner Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tn Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (0)	Nothing against the .375H&H, .416, and .458 lovers, but I find the idea that an American lever gun is as good as it gets for harvesting ANY North American game very refreshing! Mine happens to be a .450, but the idea is exactly the same. Best of luck in your pursuit!

05-29-2008, 12:38 PM	#13
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,169 Trader Rating: (0)	I'll second That...Get them Moose Killers !!! LOL Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-30-2008, 01:43 PM	#14
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,823 Trader Rating: (0)	Just put some bacon in your buddy's fartsack at night. You should have some great shooting, LOL !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-31-2008, 10:04 AM	#18
offroader1994 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: east Tn. Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0)	[quote=ruffman;523008]An interesting point, but I can't agree entirely... Sure, hunters lose game especially those of us who throw sticks, Should i understand this comment to say that if you are throwing sticks it is ok to loose an animal or not kill the animal cleanly? I am new to the Stick throwing style of hunting anly been throwing for about 4 years now and have pased up on quite a few shots.

05-31-2008, 01:33 PM	#19
ruffman Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0)	[quote= Should i understand this comment to say that if you are throwing sticks it is ok to loose an animal or not kill the animal cleanly? [/quote] Of course it is not OK, however in my expierence it happens more often to archers than riflemen... I've bowhunted for almost 20 yrs and I lost the first buck I shot at on a marginal shot past my effective range... Young and stupid!!! I have lost none since. I pass a lot of animals each year, and I have been lucky... The point was that there a far more things that can go wrong in the time between release and striking the target, and the margin of error is tight. Sam ... Good point! I agree entirely. The truth lies somewhere in between... The in between is that nature takes care of itself by balancing predators and prey... As hunters, we should try to keep the balance by taking a proportionate number of both... I'm not a game biologist, but that just seems like common sense... Last edited by ruffman; 05-31-2008 at 01:52 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

05-31-2008, 09:43 PM	#20
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,823 Trader Rating: (0)	Mother Nature has her own set of rules. When we intefer, they don't work. Plain and simple. Destruction of habitat is probably the single-most problem. Then we go to work trying to "balance" poulations. That is where we start the "boom and bust" population cycles. I am sure Moose would say he has seen this as well, particularly in Moose. When the prey species are declining, we go after the predators and raise the limits. When prey are overpopulating, we raise their limits and it goes on and on. Ma Nature can bring in her own population limiting factors such as low birth rate and disease to "smooth out" these cycles if we let her. If you go into the deep wilderness , you don't see this. Only where man is "managing" the game. Thank God I live in Alaska! Where I can get to where WE don't manage the wild things I like to hunt and eat !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers