Enough Gun vs Shot Placement

texnmidwest · 05-30-2009, 09:05 PM

My first consideration is do I have enough whiskey. Next I decide if I have enough mixers. Then I decide what cartridge I am going to use for what game.

Now, I wish all you other fellars would get your priorities straight!

thrillbilly · 05-31-2009, 12:59 AM

^ MIXERS?! ya don't MIX whiskey, ya drink it straight from the bottle! I won't even dilute whiskey with ice cubes.

samuel · 05-31-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Midas

SD = stinky diaper

So nice to find you think of the family first. ,,sam.

samuel · 05-31-2009, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thrillbilly

^ MIXERS?! ya don't MIX whiskey, ya drink it straight from the bottle! I won't even dilute whiskey with ice cubes.

Well,in my drinking days I was one of those wimps you fellers are talking about and even put ice cubes in beer. (but if no ice was available,I took it like a man) ,,sam.

zxpilot · 06-07-2009, 09:24 PM

All I use here in texas is a .22 hornet for everything. If we had bears I would use that too . I ear hole hogs and neck shoot the deer.
"fear the man who only has one gun, he likely knows how to use it"
Heres one I took last weekend.

Palladin8 · 06-07-2009, 11:54 PM

Welcome to the site ZXpilot. I have read some of your posts on huntingnet.com about all the hogs you kill with your hornet. Pretty good shooting. Thanks for the pics.

SwedeSteve · 06-08-2009, 04:06 PM

Yep, great pic. Thanks !!

zxpilot · 06-08-2009, 05:25 PM

heres a big bodied buck I killed a few years back , he went 200lbs on the hoof. Dropped him where he stood with one shot from the Hornet. neck shot.

tamalpias · 06-08-2009, 08:06 PM

So the moral of the story is if you have less heft to your bullet you better be dead on accurate. bullet weight and size gives you insurance as long as you can still aim and shoot straight.

Full MeTal Jack · 06-08-2009, 10:10 PM

Two Grizzlyes with a Universal Carbine. Hmm? Probly didn't jam.

zxpilot. Nice South Texas Buck. Thats one ugly piggy.

bTw zx, welcome to GnG

Midas · 06-09-2009, 12:33 AM

So, to sum it up, when using inadequate cartidges for the job at hand, one must be proficient enough to strike the brain or spine, if you were using a cartridge suitable for the job, you wouldn't need to worry about it!

zxpilot · 06-09-2009, 01:29 AM

I just dont have any fun busting a deer from 300 yds out with a 300 mag.
Small calibers are more challenging, a little more distance than a bow but not like big calibers.
I have always shot head and neck, for 30+ years now. South Texas sucks to be tracking animals through the thick thorny brush on your hands and knees in rattlesnake country, specially looking for a hog at night in there bedroom. I would rather drop them on the spot.
We also use feeders, not much challenge using a 300 mag sitting over a feeder.
Its not for kids but for the expierienced hunter its ok.
Even though my kid has taken some with the Hornet as well, but I am sitting with him and coaching him and hes on a good rest .heres one he took this past deer season using the Hornet.

moosemike · 06-11-2009, 11:07 AM

I used to work with a Korean war vet and he would complain that .30 Carbine round wouldn't even stop charging Koreans. He related tales of having to shoot individuals dressed in winter clothes five or six times. I spend most of my time with a .30-06 but i have a bit of experience with the 45-70 and .450 Marlin including hunting Large game. With that said a .458 Win. mag is on my list of things to buy for this year (I may go with the Lott however) because I like big bores. They are a thrill to shoot and depending where you hunt they can be a great life insurance policy.

Isuzu · 06-27-2009, 06:10 PM

Was Townsend Whelen in the same time period as Jack O'Connor? If I remember correctly, he also liked the .270, but said that it was slightly less versatile than his ''beloved .270".

Isuzu · 06-27-2009, 06:13 PM

ZXpilot, what bullets are you shooting out of your Hornet, and how fast?

chesterwin · 06-29-2009, 11:15 AM

Quackenbush Air Guns

Check this out! I think the bear story with the m-1 carbine is good but this floored me.

moosemike · 06-29-2009, 02:43 PM

That airgun stuff is nuts.

chesterwin · 06-29-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by moosemike

That airgun stuff is nuts.

I heard about these from a guy up your way on a chainsaw site that a gun thread was started on. Apparently the maker only puts out about 50 a year and getting on his list is extremely difficult. Did you watch the short clip of the Buffalo being shot?

SgtD · 07-03-2009, 12:40 AM

Personally, I like using enough gun, and good shot placement. I always shoot for the center of the heart lung area and don't shoot at running animals. I guess I'm a "center mass" kinda guy. I don't do head or neck shots. (aim small - miss small)

I have been either good, or lucky, (probably lucky), but I have yet to ever have to trail an animal. I have shot deer and hogs with rifles, shotguns, muzzleloader, and with a bow. If you hit them in the kill zone properly, they don't go very far. The farthest I've had one travel from the spot where I shot it was a deer that I shot with a bow. It was a high lung shot. She went all of 60 yards and fell over. The only one I've dropped where it stood was a boar I shot wth a .50 cal muzzle loader.

samuel · 07-03-2009, 02:52 AM

Often you see all kinds of pictures and hear how great an inadequate cartridge worked so great.What they don't talk about is the 5to 10 that ran off wounded so they didn't get a picture.I use a Hornet a lot and know what it will do.It can be used in set shots but is not adequate for running shots where bullet placement is doubtful. ,,,sam.

05-30-2009, 09:05 PM	#81
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,888	My first consideration is do I have enough whiskey. Next I decide if I have enough mixers. Then I decide what cartridge I am going to use for what game. Now, I wish all you other fellars would get your priorities straight! __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

05-31-2009, 12:59 AM	#82
thrillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ozark Hill Country Posts: 2,436	^ MIXERS?! ya don't MIX whiskey, ya drink it straight from the bottle! I won't even dilute whiskey with ice cubes. __________________ *" I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on."* John Wayne

06-08-2009, 04:06 PM	#87
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,150	Yep, great pic. Thanks !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

06-08-2009, 10:10 PM	#90
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,909	Two Grizzlyes with a Universal Carbine. Hmm? Probly didn't jam. zxpilot. Nice South Texas Buck. Thats one ugly piggy. bTw zx, welcome to GnG __________________ Guns and cameras don't mix Last edited by Full MeTal Jack; 06-08-2009 at 10:13 PM.

06-09-2009, 12:33 AM	#91
Midas Chief Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 3,523 Blog Entries: 6	So, to sum it up, when using inadequate cartidges for the job at hand, one must be proficient enough to strike the brain or spine, if you were using a cartridge suitable for the job, you wouldn't need to worry about it! __________________ The Second Amendment: America's Original Homeland Security. NRA Life Member

06-07-2009, 09:24 PM	#85
zxpilot Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	All I use here in texas is a .22 hornet for everything. If we had bears I would use that too . I ear hole hogs and neck shoot the deer. "fear the man who only has one gun, he likely knows how to use it" Heres one I took last weekend.

06-07-2009, 11:54 PM	#86
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,420	Welcome to the site ZXpilot. I have read some of your posts on huntingnet.com about all the hogs you kill with your hornet. Pretty good shooting. Thanks for the pics.

06-08-2009, 05:25 PM	#88
zxpilot Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	heres a big bodied buck I killed a few years back , he went 200lbs on the hoof. Dropped him where he stood with one shot from the Hornet. neck shot.

06-08-2009, 08:06 PM	#89
tamalpias Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 525	So the moral of the story is if you have less heft to your bullet you better be dead on accurate. bullet weight and size gives you insurance as long as you can still aim and shoot straight.

06-09-2009, 01:29 AM	#92
zxpilot Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 19	I just dont have any fun busting a deer from 300 yds out with a 300 mag. Small calibers are more challenging, a little more distance than a bow but not like big calibers. I have always shot head and neck, for 30+ years now. South Texas sucks to be tracking animals through the thick thorny brush on your hands and knees in rattlesnake country, specially looking for a hog at night in there bedroom. I would rather drop them on the spot. We also use feeders, not much challenge using a 300 mag sitting over a feeder. Its not for kids but for the expierienced hunter its ok. Even though my kid has taken some with the Hornet as well, but I am sitting with him and coaching him and hes on a good rest .heres one he took this past deer season using the Hornet.

06-11-2009, 11:07 AM	#93
moosemike Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lebanon PA Posts: 218	I used to work with a Korean war vet and he would complain that .30 Carbine round wouldn't even stop charging Koreans. He related tales of having to shoot individuals dressed in winter clothes five or six times. I spend most of my time with a .30-06 but i have a bit of experience with the 45-70 and .450 Marlin including hunting Large game. With that said a .458 Win. mag is on my list of things to buy for this year (I may go with the Lott however) because I like big bores. They are a thrill to shoot and depending where you hunt they can be a great life insurance policy.

06-27-2009, 06:10 PM	#94
Isuzu Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 56	Was Townsend Whelen in the same time period as Jack O'Connor? If I remember correctly, he also liked the .270, but said that it was slightly less versatile than his ''beloved .270".

06-27-2009, 06:13 PM	#95
Isuzu Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 56	ZXpilot, what bullets are you shooting out of your Hornet, and how fast?

06-29-2009, 11:15 AM	#96
chesterwin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 515	Quackenbush Air Guns Check this out! I think the bear story with the m-1 carbine is good but this floored me.

06-29-2009, 02:43 PM	#97
moosemike Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lebanon PA Posts: 218	That airgun stuff is nuts.

07-03-2009, 12:40 AM	#99
SgtD Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 51	Personally, I like using enough gun, and good shot placement. I always shoot for the center of the heart lung area and don't shoot at running animals. I guess I'm a "center mass" kinda guy. I don't do head or neck shots. (aim small - miss small) I have been either good, or lucky, (probably lucky), but I have yet to ever have to trail an animal. I have shot deer and hogs with rifles, shotguns, muzzleloader, and with a bow. If you hit them in the kill zone properly, they don't go very far. The farthest I've had one travel from the spot where I shot it was a deer that I shot with a bow. It was a high lung shot. She went all of 60 yards and fell over. The only one I've dropped where it stood was a boar I shot wth a .50 cal muzzle loader. Last edited by SgtD; 07-03-2009 at 12:46 AM.

07-03-2009, 02:52 AM	#100
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,790	Often you see all kinds of pictures and hear how great an inadequate cartridge worked so great.What they don't talk about is the 5to 10 that ran off wounded so they didn't get a picture.I use a Hornet a lot and know what it will do.It can be used in set shots but is not adequate for running shots where bullet placement is doubtful. ,,,sam.